Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@JC said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo What does the course teach you? How not to act like a rich old douche? Too late for me unfortunately.
I honestly have no idea and I'm talking about something that I heard years and years ago (maybe 90's) so I have no idea the accuracy around it.
Better to be a rich old douche than just being a douche!
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So I've gone from shop to shop looking for a mask and can find none
I'd like to see the government talk about this and at least attempt to get them out to people. They are proven to help stop the spread, if we want this lockdown to work I think absolutely everyone leaving their houses should be wearing one.
So where are they proven to stop the spread? They really only work to protect the waerer if you follow proper procedures (yeah right, joe public) - good on sick people tho, stops their coughs and sneezes
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So I've gone from shop to shop looking for a mask and can find none
I'd like to see the government talk about this and at least attempt to get them out to people. They are proven to help stop the spread, if we want this lockdown to work I think absolutely everyone leaving their houses should be wearing one.
So where are they proven to stop the spread? They really only work to protect the waerer if you follow proper procedures (yeah right, joe public) - good on sick people tho, stops their coughs and sneezes
The protect mainly from droplets either way. Mostly protection from the wearer coughing. Will not stop actual individual viruses but doesn't really have to
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So I've gone from shop to shop looking for a mask and can find none
I'd like to see the government talk about this and at least attempt to get them out to people. They are proven to help stop the spread, if we want this lockdown to work I think absolutely everyone leaving their houses should be wearing one.
So where are they proven to stop the spread? They really only work to protect the waerer if you follow proper procedures (yeah right, joe public) - good on sick people tho, stops their coughs and sneezes
The protect mainly from droplets either way. Mostly protection from the wearer coughing. Will not stop actual individual viruses but doesn't really have to
Only if the wearer follows proper procedures, people don't. And you have to replace them every time. It's like all the staff our there at the moment wearing gloves, why? Unless you change them continously handwashing much much better
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So I've gone from shop to shop looking for a mask and can find none
I'd like to see the government talk about this and at least attempt to get them out to people. They are proven to help stop the spread, if we want this lockdown to work I think absolutely everyone leaving their houses should be wearing one.
So where are they proven to stop the spread? They really only work to protect the waerer if you follow proper procedures (yeah right, joe public) - good on sick people tho, stops their coughs and sneezes
The protect mainly from droplets either way. Mostly protection from the wearer coughing. Will not stop actual individual viruses but doesn't really have to
Only if the wearer follows proper procedures, people don't. And you have to replace them every time. It's like all the staff our there at the moment wearing gloves, why? Unless you change them continously handwashing much much better
Even if you don't replace them regularly it stops the big stuff ie droplets from flying. Surgical masks fail to be effective at stopping viral particles the minute they get damp. So about 5 minutes of wear
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So I've gone from shop to shop looking for a mask and can find none
I'd like to see the government talk about this and at least attempt to get them out to people. They are proven to help stop the spread, if we want this lockdown to work I think absolutely everyone leaving their houses should be wearing one.
So where are they proven to stop the spread? They really only work to protect the waerer if you follow proper procedures (yeah right, joe public) - good on sick people tho, stops their coughs and sneezes
The protect mainly from droplets either way. Mostly protection from the wearer coughing. Will not stop actual individual viruses but doesn't really have to
Only if the wearer follows proper procedures, people don't. And you have to replace them every time. It's like all the staff our there at the moment wearing gloves, why? Unless you change them continously handwashing much much better
Even if you don't replace them regularly it stops the big stuff ie droplets from flying. Surgical masks fail to be effective at stopping viral particles the minute they get damp. So about 5 minutes of wear
And it stops people freaking out when u go out. And it is important that people don't lose their shit right now
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Absolute opposite here in Japan.
Iām on the train right now - if you can believe it and please forgive the digression, we have a seminar today about using online learning tools that you have to attend in person!! Fkn nuts š¤Ŗ
Anyway, the train is at normal capacity for this time of day, and everyone, bar one person I can see (a teenager), is wearing a mask.
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan As the MooH said at our last CV19 briefing - mask are for sick people. So I'm much more likely to freak seeing someone wearing a mask!
And with Covid-19 you often don't show symptoms of being sick for a week.
There's no way masks don't help. It's self-evident that they do. I get that they're not 100% or even close to that but anything that helps stop the spread has to be done at this point. We've shut down our whole bloody economy over this, why wouldn't we take all the appropriate measures?
All of the Asian countries that have managed to contain this have had their entire populations wearing masks. They didn't do that to boost morale, they did that because they know it helps.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Absolute opposite here in Japan.
Iām on the train right now - if you can believe it and please forgive the digression, we have a seminar today about using online learning tools that you have to attend in person!! Fkn nuts š¤Ŗ
Anyway, the train is at normal capacity for this time of day, and everyone, bar one person I can see (a teenager), is wearing a mask.
Exactly. But much of that is a question of population density. Same in Taiwan, China, South Korea etc, perception counts for much
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@No-Quarter The chances of transmitting the virus when you are asymptomatic are believed to be so low as to be statistically zero.
As I said earlier masks are mainly a placebo but if your that freaked PM me and I'll see if I can send you some.
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@No-Quarter the microbiologist had a different take. Said that gloves and masks might give some comfort from anxiety etc but our typical behaviours to wearing them (ie doing something different) means we end up touching our face more, don't know how to take the gloves off without transferring germs, and likely end up getting less vigilant about hand washing.
Her main focus was the 2m distance, coughing into your elbow and washing, washing, washing. So they might (in optimal circumstances) help but she was very dubious that would be the case.
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@canefan guess tomorrow wil be an indicator on how people are behaving...although expect a spike in community spread infections form today with all these people getting thier last fix of a $5 pair of undies from K-Mart or an Easter egg form the warehouse today
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan guess tomorrow wil be an indicator on how people are behaving...although expect a spike in community spread infections form today with all these people getting thier last fix of a $5 pair of undies from K-Mart or an Easter egg form the warehouse today
Got my easter eggs yesterday
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan guess tomorrow wil be an indicator on how people are behaving...although expect a spike in community spread infections form today with all these people getting thier last fix of a $5 pair of undies from K-Mart or an Easter egg form the warehouse today
Yeah I expect heaps of people to drive to the coast to the beach or go fishing, which they shouldn't be doing
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan guess tomorrow wil be an indicator on how people are behaving...although expect a spike in community spread infections form today with all these people getting thier last fix of a $5 pair of undies from K-Mart or an Easter egg form the warehouse today
Yeah I expect heaps of people to drive to the coast to the beach or go fishing, which they shouldn't be doing
Absolutely they shouldn't.
The thing I can't answer is if I lived on the coast very remotely, would I go fishing (Surfcasting)? The answer is probably yes. If I was at Whangamata, the answer would be a resounding no.
I guess if you are in a place where no one will see you then it probably doesn't really matter even though they shouldn't