Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants Depending on how effective they are. Current tests don't mean you're clear even if you come back negative.
I think the border could be closed to a lot of the world for a very long time.
If the current measures work we eliminate COVID-19 from NZ but have no herd immunity. So the moment we open borders again we put ourselves back into our current situation - until either a vaccine is developed or the whole of the rest of the world is clear.
My thoughts too. Listening to Fauci, he believes that the NH could be hit again later in the year (their next winter) so they are looking closely at what happens in the SH as winter is coming. Without an effective vaccine all countries will be taking a risk to open their borders.
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If testing is reliable enough, shorter isolation might work (negative test before departure, second test at the prescribed interval), but short holidays are probably impractical for the foreseeable future without a vaccine or antiviral medication.
We might manage to get Aussie and the islands on the safe list a bit faster.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The no cars def makes it so tough. We were hoping to move from our current digs to another place in a few days - the new place is isolated, empty and unattended, so we could have no contact with anyone in transit or at the end. But the updated advice seems pretty clear that we are not allowed to move
Pretty clear you are not supposed to move. There is no grey area.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The no cars def makes it so tough. We were hoping to move from our current digs to another place in a few days - the new place is isolated, empty and unattended, so we could have no contact with anyone in transit or at the end. But the updated advice seems pretty clear that we are not allowed to move
Pretty clear you are not supposed to move. There is no grey area.
You're like an echo
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo I think he means restrictions for people coming in. Not sure they would go the 14 day route, but they might check for temps?
The UK is talking about testing kits that can be done in minutes, so that will be pretty effective at the border
My mate reckons the tests aren't always accurate. A person who has the early stage of the disease can return a negative test. So they will need more accurate testing if they expect to open the borders
NZ maybe saved a little bit here by being so far from anywhere? Early stages gets an extra 4 or so hours at least to develop...
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Defence force (army) ready to step in if Public don't comply!
I love that!
I remember when the prison guard went on strike and we had to step in. That made me feel glad that I had joined the RNZAF. We contributed.
Make no mistake, the grunts will show a shed load less compassion and education than the Police.
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@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Make no mistake, the grunts will show a shed load less compassion and education than the Police.
Good, by that point softly softly hasn't worked
Yep! More fool anyone who thinks their own freedom is more important than that of the collective.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo I think he means restrictions for people coming in. Not sure they would go the 14 day route, but they might check for temps?
The UK is talking about testing kits that can be done in minutes, so that will be pretty effective at the border
My mate reckons the tests aren't always accurate. A person who has the early stage of the disease can return a negative test. So they will need more accurate testing if they expect to open the borders
NZ maybe saved a little bit here by being so far from anywhere? Early stages gets an extra 4 or so hours at least to develop...
It can be days apparently... this covid 19 is a nasty little beastie
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I feel for butchers who stocked up after apparently being told they would be allowed to trade, then forced to close. But this is irresponsible
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@canefan reading both the (fucken fantastic) butcher and the fruit & veg store in Eastbourne were forced to close, can't even do deliveries, which is pretty shit. 4 Square is there but failing that you have to go in Petone/Lower Hutt and mix with a lot more people.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan reading both the (fucken fantastic) butcher and the fruit & veg store in Eastbourne were forced to close, can't even do deliveries, which is pretty shit. 4 Square is there but failing that you have to go in Petone/Lower Hutt and mix with a lot more people.
I can't see the harm in online trading. I bought fish from Takitimu fisheries in HB they will courier it up. And my mate in karori says his local butcher and fruit shop are online deliveries
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I usually don't pop into this area of the fern but in the current situation, I'm just looking for some semblance of community.
My personal situation is simple: I live in a Wellington boarding house/former backpacker with about 30 other residents, many of whom are retirees and over 65. It's certainly interesting living in such an environment. But if someone were to get sick, we're screwed. There are a lot of these places, more than you'd have thought, particularly in towns and cities where accommodation is expensive as all get out.
I would note that the older residents including myself are pretty much just getting on with things as much as we can, checking on those who might be doing it a little tougher. There are a couple of ex-servicemen here as well as a former ICTY investigator who was stationed in the Balkans in the 90s which has helped avoid hysteria and quashed a few of the I read it on Facebook/Twitter so it must be true.
Anyway just thought I'd check in.