Coronavirus - Overall
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Nah, she hardly drinks much at all. Former Army officer
Confused...
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix". The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix".
TBF, I had no problem with the Police using a drone to video people driving out to the Dales to walk their dog and using that as a reminder to stay at home wherever possible. And, sure, it will take time for their new powers to bed down.
But fining a shopheeper for vandalism after he chalked the pavement so people could keep 2m apart or going thru peoples groceries to see if their purchases were "essential" shows a complete lack of common sense, respect for the public and knowledge of the law.
The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse
True, But the long litany of cover-ups, cock-ups, corruption, falsifying evidence, colluding in sexual abuse and lying to the public the UK police have been involved in in recent years does stretch the point at times.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix".
TBF, I had no problem with the Police using a drone to video people driving out to the Dales to walk their dog and using that as a reminder to stay at home wherever possible. And, sure, it will take time for their new powers to bed down.
But fining a shopheeper for vandalism after he chalked the pavement so people could keep 2m apart or going thru peoples groceries to see if their purchases were "essential" shows a complete lack of common sense, respect for the public and knowledge of the law.
The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse
True, But the long litany of cover-ups, cock-ups, corruption, falsifying evidence, colluding in sexual abuse and lying to the public the UK police have been involved in in recent years does stretch the point at times.
From a straight forward perspective the prime objective is keeping people in groups of no more than two, and being 2m apart.
The use of the word 'essential' has confused many, including the police. The key context is in respect of those activities which it is essential to keep running.
But it is fine to travel to work even if such work is not essential, unless one can WFH.
Perhaps the Police need a simple course to help them out.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix".
TBF, I had no problem with the Police using a drone to video people driving out to the Dales to walk their dog and using that as a reminder to stay at home wherever possible. And, sure, it will take time for their new powers to bed down.
But fining a shopheeper for vandalism after he chalked the pavement so people could keep 2m apart or going thru peoples groceries to see if their purchases were "essential" shows a complete lack of common sense, respect for the public and knowledge of the law.
The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse
True, But the long litany of cover-ups, cock-ups, corruption, falsifying evidence, colluding in sexual abuse and lying to the public the UK police have been involved in in recent years does stretch the point at times.
I can actually confirm that the Army is heavily involved with keeping the peace. Just not in uniform.
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Wimbledon cancelled.
The Edinburgh festival cancelled
The big Climate Change conference scheduled for November postponed.> The All Blacks' November Internationals must be in doubt.
No chance if the NH unions don't agree to revenue sharing. I think it's more likely we might see the rugby championship played in November TBH.
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@Billy-Tell said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Wimbledon cancelled.
The Edinburgh festival cancelled
The big Climate Change conference scheduled for November postponed.> The All Blacks' November Internationals must be in doubt.
No chance if the NH unions don't agree to
revenue sharingsubsidising. I think it's more likely we might see the rugby championship played in November TBH.Dons battle helmet, retreats to Anderson Shelter where the stocks of tinned food are ample.
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Dr Campbell explains some good news coming from Imperial College.
Basically the preventions are working. It is likely actual cases are grossly under-reported. Italy is likely to have had well over a million infections, maybe in the millions. They currently show a death rate around 13% but this is likely 1% or lower given the number of actual infected.
Probably why countries like Australia, NZ have such low death numbers is the virus did not actually take hold and spread before measures were put in place. So our number of cases reported are much closer to actual cases. Whereas Europe, the US are probably 10x higher or more.
Highly likely then in the short term our health systems are unlikely to become overburdened. The issue now is how do they open up the economy whilst controlling any left over cases.
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I guess the other issue with Corona is whilst the overall death rate is likely to be lower than first thought, it is still fucken deadly to the old who already have health issues.
They released the figures for that nursing home in the US, 130 odd residents, 101 got infected, 34 died. Those who died did have a range of issues with hypertension being the top of the list.
The question has to be, how do we protect the old and should Govt do anything to lower the rates of these existing conditions such as Hypertension and Cardiac disease?
Main causes of Hypertension
Smoking.
Being overweight or obese.
Lack of physical activity.
Too much salt in the diet.
Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day)
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I guess the other issue with Corona is whilst the overall death rate is likely to be lower than first thought, it is still fucken deadly to the old who already have health issues.
They released the figures for that nursing home in the US, 130 odd residents, 101 got infected, 34 died. Those who died did have a range of issues with hypertension being the top of the list.
The question has to be, how do we protect the old and should Govt do anything to lower the rates of these existing conditions such as Hypertension and Cardiac disease?
Main causes of Hypertension
Smoking.
Being overweight or obese.
Lack of physical activity.
Too much salt in the diet.
Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day)
Stress.I read somewhere that CV doubles one's chance of dying in next TWO months. If your heart or lungs are buggered it's a death sentence.
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@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
10m registered for welfare in the US in the last 2 weeks, 6.6m the last week alone.
Previously weekly record was 695k in 1982
Yikes
This whole thing is fucked every which way.
That's a pretty fair summary
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@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - Overall:
This is what happens when a huge percentage of the working population live from paycheck to paycheck.
Some people just can't save a lot of money because of their circumstances. But there are a large group who can, but choose to spend all their disposable income on consumer goods that they don't necessarily need. In addition they borrow heavily to maintain a lifestyle beyond their means. Saving habits don't appear to have improved in the wake of the GFC and I'm sure that in the coming years people will quickly forget again
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@canefan Probably partly to do with how easy it is to obtain credit and get yourself in debt. Marketing is very sophisticated and powerful and we all get sucked in to it by a certain degree.
When afterpay became a thing I was always shocked when I heard friends saying how good it was etc, all I was thinking was they managed to get you to buy something you probably didn't need and you still have to pay for it.
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan Probably partly to do with how easy it is to obtain credit and get yourself in debt. Marketing is very sophisticated and powerful and we all get sucked in to it by a certain degree.
When afterpay became a thing I was always shocked when I heard friends saying how good it was etc, all I was thinking was they managed to get you to buy something you probably didn't need and you still have to pay for it.
It makes perfect economic sense to borrow. But that all assumes you have a job. As far as hire purchase and other 'free' money, just because the guy on the street is selling crack doesn't mean you have to buy crack