Coronavirus - Overall
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@Billy-Tell Not sure if this will show the daily deaths graph, which is impressive:
If not, you need to find the graph, Tidsserie: Avlidna per dag
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MiketheSnow I don't get it, why is it spot on?
Selective quoting
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"A video featuring UK residents and people of foreign heritage reciting an anti-racist poem has highlighted the crucial role immigrant workers are playing in the Covid-19 outbreak.
You Clap for Me Now, penned by Darren James Smith, features Britons with black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds who are key workers during the global pandemic – including doctors, nurses, teachers, shopkeepers and delivery drivers, many of whom have previously experienced discrimination"
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MiketheSnow I don't get it, why is it spot on?
Selective quoting
Read both paragraphs
"A video featuring UK residents and people of foreign heritage reciting an anti-racist poem has highlighted the crucial role immigrant workers are playing in the Covid-19 outbreak.
You Clap for Me Now, penned by Darren James Smith, features Britons with black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds who are key workers during the global pandemic – including doctors, nurses, teachers, shopkeepers and delivery drivers, many of whom have previously experienced discrimination"
Nope, I still don't get the point.
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@Billy-Tell said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Anders Wallensten, the deputy chief epidemiologist, said the number of new Covid-19 cases was starting to decline and he was “cautiously positive” Sweden was approaching the peak. Officials said the health system was coping.
Protecting health systems has been the reason some countries have given for lockdowns. Makes you wonder if Sweden's modelling showed it's health system could cope while the UK modelling showed the opposite.
That said, the fact the UK has 2,000+ spare acute care hospital beds at the peak of the virus is pretty impressive and a tribute to the politicians, NHS management, Clinicians, Armed Forces and the commercial sector.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
"A video featuring UK residents and people of foreign heritage reciting an anti-racist poem has highlighted the crucial role immigrant workers are playing in the Covid-19 outbreak.
But why single out "UK residents and people of foreign heritage" (dog-whistle for non-white) for special praise over UK residents of UK heritage doing crucial roles?
Is a non-BAME NHS doctor less deserving of praise than a BAME doctor?
What's the point?
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@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Yeah sure. I bet all the racists who were out clapping are thinking twice! That'll teach em!
Probably won't clap anymore.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Surely any immigrants who wanted to stay would have registered for settled status. If not, they can't complain?
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
That's how I read it.
Especially for those born & bred in the UK.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Surely any immigrants who wanted to stay would have registered for settled status. If not, they can't complain?
I don't think it has anything much to do with settled status etc or being eligible to stay. It is to do with many of these people, some immigrants, some British from a different background experiencing racism and now having people standing outside their front doors clapping for them every Friday.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Yeah sure. I bet all the racists who were out clapping are thinking twice! That'll teach em!
Probably won't clap anymore.
Quite. And to paraphrase myself. Sometimes a fluffybunny is just a fluffybunny.
Not much you can do about such people.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Surely any immigrants who wanted to stay would have registered for settled status. If not, they can't complain?
I don't think it has anything much to do with settled status etc or being eligible to stay. It is to do with many of these people, some immigrants, some British from a different background experiencing racism and now having people standing outside their front doors clapping for them every Friday.
Hard for me to relate to that personally, but I can understand the feelings of hypocrisy.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Surely any immigrants who wanted to stay would have registered for settled status. If not, they can't complain?
I don't think it has anything much to do with settled status etc or being eligible to stay. It is to do with many of these people, some immigrants, some British from a different background experiencing racism and now having people standing outside their front doors clapping for them every Friday.
Only a truly evil, ignorant bastard would do it a day late...
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Surely any immigrants who wanted to stay would have registered for settled status. If not, they can't complain?
I don't think it has anything much to do with settled status etc or being eligible to stay. It is to do with many of these people, some immigrants, some British from a different background experiencing racism and now having people standing outside their front doors clapping for them every Friday.
Perhaps we need a register of right-on, non-racist people who are allowed to clap for the NHS....
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Surely any immigrants who wanted to stay would have registered for settled status. If not, they can't complain?
I don't think it has anything much to do with settled status etc or being eligible to stay. It is to do with many of these people, some immigrants, some British from a different background experiencing racism and now having people standing outside their front doors clapping for them every Friday.
Perhaps we need a register of right-on, non-racist people who are allowed to clap for the NHS....
Now you know that wasn’t the gist of my point 🙄
But having said that I do think we need someone to be the arbiter if what is socially acceptable. Would it be considered infra-dig for me to nominate me?
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones @Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow
I took it as don’t clap for me today and then tell to to fuck off back to my own country when this is all over. Maybe simplistic but sometimes a good cigar is just a good cigar.
Surely any immigrants who wanted to stay would have registered for settled status. If not, they can't complain?
I don't think it has anything much to do with settled status etc or being eligible to stay. It is to do with many of these people, some immigrants, some British from a different background experiencing racism and now having people standing outside their front doors clapping for them every Friday.
Only a truly evil, ignorant bastard would do it a day late...
See. No one really cares.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
But having said that I do think we need someone to be the arbiter if what is socially acceptable.
I thought that was Kim Khardashian
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
But having said that I do think we need someone to be the arbiter if what is socially acceptable.
I thought that was Kim Khardashian
Nope, it's Jameela
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@Billy-Tell that's pretty interesting that they're predicting the same financial repercussions that the lockdown countries are expecting (this year).
Would be interesting to see if they predict they will be better off financially in the medium - long term by creating a herd immunity. Maybe they also have no faith in a vaccine ever being created.
You'd be gutted to have lost all those lives only to have the same financial disaster the lockdown countries are heading for.
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@Toddy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Billy-Tell that's pretty interesting that they're predicting the same financial repercussions that the lockdown countries are expecting (this year).
Would be interesting to see if they predict they will be better off financially in the medium - long term by creating a herd immunity. Maybe they also have no faith in a vaccine ever being created.
You'd be gutted to have lost all those lives only to have the same financial disaster the lockdown countries are heading for.
I’m not sure about this herd immunity thing. That assumes it’s the same strain of the virus year in year out. The flu is not like that. More of a concept for bacterial infections. I think there’s pretty overwhelming evidence now that going with the no lockdown idea is a bad one. Here in Switzerland the government is expected to start easing back shortly. So it’ll have been about 6 weeks of pain but the Swiss curve, like NZ, is clearly on the way down. A free for all with no lockdown would have been much much worse.