Coronavirus - Overall
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Victor-Meldrew you are 100% right there in my circle. Nobody has any interest in media reporting anymore, as it's too full of conjecture and opinion. Not fact.
Govt is already restricting journalistic access according to one notable bell end ...
Although to widen that would be knocking down a key pillar of an open democratic society.
It's a bit of a pantomime, really. Expect BoJo told Sirker that the senior echelons of NHS and PHE were totally hopeless, and that would be reviewed in due course. But they can't well call them out publicly when they're still reliant on them.
UK press give every appearance of being so gormless that they believe ministers have personal involvement in the detail. For example, in case of PPE wanted public to write to Hancock regarding its handling, when a PPE Tsar had been appointed to sort -- Lord Deighton.
Easier just to tune out.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Apparently one of his interviews was blocked on youtube as it was too optimistic. What message does that send? Who blocked it?
The media have been utter shite in doing their job during this crisis. At best incompetent in checking facts and any potential bias their "experts" may have, or at worst deliberately peddling fake news. And the public have cottoned onto it.
Quite a lot of that on Sweden. Lefties hate the fact they're ploughing their own furrow. Swedes each day report deaths which include revisions of past data going back sometimes three weeks. So seven day rolling announced deaths are twice the last seven days by date, if that makes sense. Last seven days rolling announced was high last week and UK press were all falling over themselves with 'Swedish imprudent strategy on buffers' fake news.
They need to get their act together or governments are going to restrict journalistic access and bypass them altogether .
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman The care homes thing is a clusterfuck. But some points have never been touched by the media at all, in their rush to blame the government.
- Most care homes are private
- The govt did say people need not be tested before sending people back to care homes if they have no symptoms
Now, if you were managing a care home, would you not immediately put provisions in place for
- Care home vistors
- Care home returnees from hospital regardless of symptoms, why in hospital, local outbreak etc.
It is basic 1+1= 2 that you realise your residents are all considered high risk, and basic pragmatism means you put your home at the top alert level earlier than others with maximum precautions? If you need the government to tell you that, then you have no right to run a care home in my opinion.
Senior staffers in the NHS and care home operatives are getting a massive let off at the moment, in people's rush to find fault with the government.
OK, so small sample size - ie 1! But.. a friend of mine is in a private care home locally following a severe accident. They were in full lockdown before the Government announcements and the staff had PPE. No reported cases as yet.
So if the will and foresight was there it would seem disaster could have been avoided to one degree or another.
In other words, I am agreeing with you!
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Think it was the Telegraph pushing that story a day or two ago.
Guido Fawkes has been documenting many of their howlers . They ran a piece saying something like "Chaos as Hancock changes "Stay Alert" to "Keep Distance".
Turns out the "Keep Distance" slogan was one the Telegraph itself came up with after the government paid them for an advertising campaign...
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
was the treatment started 40 hours after being hospitalized. Or 48 hours after first becoming ill
Some doctors have had success with this treatment. But it must include zinc and must be administered in the early stages. not when ill and sent to hospital. And did the treatment include zinc?
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Dominic Cummings and goings.
Fucking disgrace.
The action and the non-action.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Dominic Cummings and goings.
Fucking disgrace.
The action and the non-action.
The whole thing is weird.
First the media report the police spoke to Cummings. Then he and No.10 vehemently deny this . They wouldn't do that unless they were absolutely sure they were right. The media reports that the police spoke to Cummings then disappear....
The usual rent-a-mouths start shouting about arrests, hypocrisy and sackings
Cummings then says he acted legally & responsibly and was putting his child's welfare first. No. 10 and Snr Ministers pile in defending Cummings playing up the child welfare angle
Then up pops a clip from Jenny Harries telling reporters parents who are ill and may not be able to look after a child "created exceptional circumstances where family members could be called upon to help."
Now the media attack has morphed into the standard defensive smoke-screen of "was there a No. 10 cover-up....?"
Either a journalistic cock-up or the media are being played perhaps?
EDIT: The Media coverage is now changed to simply reporting today's events in the Cummings saga.
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@MajorRage I know I shouldn't be surprised but I'm pretty appalled at these fucken dogs with bones about something so inconsequential.
"Oh but I wasn't allowed to do this and that"
So fucking what. I've not been able to go for a swim because I don't have my own pool.
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I take a different view to you guys. They’re playing up the child welfare thing on the premise that they didn’t have sufficient child care cover if they went down with the virus. It’s a very emotional argument, looking after your kid’s welfare. We’d all be all over that, but come on. One of the most powerful men in the country can’t get child care. Really?
Taking the emotion out of it, was the journey itself that bad? Not really. A bit something and nothing. But the fact is he is now perceived to be of the view the rules don’t apply to him. His actions were either stupid or arrogant in times where the Government can well do without either. His actions and the subsequent sweeping under the carpet have made this the issue of the day when there are far more important things.
Fuck him. Twat.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading your replies.
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@Catogrande but why did he make the trip then, at what benefit? Free beers at the other end? Home cooked meals?