Coronavirus - Overall
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I take a different view to you guys. They’re playing up the child welfare thing on the premise that they didn’t have sufficient child care cover if they went down with the virus. It’s a very emotional argument, looking after your kid’s welfare. We’d all be all over that, but come on. One of the most powerful men in the country can’t get child care. Really?
Taking the emotion out of it, was the journey itself that bad? Not really. A bit something and nothing. But the fact is he is now perceived to be of the view the rules don’t apply to him. His actions were either stupid or arrogant in times where the Government can well do without either. His actions and the subsequent sweeping under the carpet have made this the issue of the day when there are far more important things.
Fuck him. Twat.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading your replies.
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@Catogrande but why did he make the trip then, at what benefit? Free beers at the other end? Home cooked meals?
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@MiketheSnow don't pretend you weren't already crying.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande but why did he make the trip then, at what benefit? Free beers at the other end? Home cooked meals?
The cynic in me says because he could. The not quite so cynical side of me would say he did it for his own convenience. A bit of peace and quiet with the wider family. I don’t buy his excuse at all, certainly not on a reasonable basis with there not being other options.
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I don’t care enough to even engage in debate. That’s my point.
Has no bearing on anything other than political points. Not relevant.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I don’t care enough to even engage in debate. That’s my point.
Has no bearing on anything other than political points. Not relevant.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king
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@MiketheSnow not the man who can drive a couple hundred miles to his family?
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The outrage is perfectly understandable when you have advisors ignoring the government's own policy. So why wouldn't people be upset at the gross restrictions forced on them while the scientist who said it could kill half a million ignores the very measures to prevent it?
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@MajorRage That was part of my point earlier, that his actions and the response from No10 have made him the story rather than the bigger issues. Regardless of whether you consider his actions no big deal it was, at best, stupid to risk the all too foreseeable consequences.
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@Catogrande @antipodean you guys are categorically missing my point. Perhaps I wasn’t clear, reading back, it does seem so.
I want Cummings to go. I see why he did it, but you can’t as a government minister.
Make no mistake, until Cummings is gone, this government just gets more and more damaged. He must go. Surely Boris can see that and is making the arrangements.
However, to put a rugby angle on it - this isn’t the story. France tour 2018. Clean sweep for NZ. Awesome. Did anybody talk about that? No. You couldn’t read a single thing about it, Twas all about red cards, nz indiscretions, forward passes etc. This forum had many a melt down over it.
That’s how I see it here. Media is doing nothing to help thus country out. NOTHING. Spread fear, destabilize the government, rip through people’s mental health and constantly push their own agendas, regardless of fact or not. Opinions are presented as fact. It’s just ongoing and never stops. Relentless, unstoppable push to fuck over the government.
The virus is the issue. Not Cummings.
Maybe I don’t have the stomach to live here.
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@MajorRage I’m with you on the media angle. As much as Cummings may have underestimated the consequences of his actions, the media are misunderstanding what the public want from them. That in itself is not new and their ability to flip flop in chasing ratings is sometimes breathtaking. What I find objectionable and also a bit scary these days is the, to me, underlying agenda to destabilise Johnson’s Government. We have two huge issues in the virus and Brexit and we need stability. They are not helping.
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@MajorRage I don't like journalism as currently practised by the majority, or certainly the noisy majority. But what grates more is when some halfwit provides them with a casus belli and provides some measure of justification.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I take a different view to you guys. They’re playing up the child welfare thing on the premise that they didn’t have sufficient child care cover if they went down with the virus. It’s a very emotional argument, looking after your kid’s welfare. We’d all be all over that, but come on. One of the most powerful men in the country can’t get child care. Really?
Taking the emotion out of it, was the journey itself that bad? Not really. A bit something and nothing. But the fact is he is now perceived to be of the view the rules don’t apply to him. His actions were either stupid or arrogant in times where the Government can well do without either. His actions and the subsequent sweeping under the carpet have made this the issue of the day when there are far more important things.
Fuck him. Twat.
Cummings is staying.
The purported breach of regulations is debatable, and the way he self isolated once in Durham seems in line with guidance. The guidance always encouraged sensible judgement being applied, a concept the UK press can't or, more likely, doesn't want to take on board. On any rational analysis the drive to his relatives did not put the public at risk.
On the bigger point, the reason this story has been so massively overdone is that the Liberal Left, rather than accepting that the Brexit referendum delivered a clear democratic result (unlike MANY elections round the world), finds it easier to delude themselves that DomCum somehow perverted the result. So now they are all over him like flies on a bucket of shit.
Meanwhile, the Funday Times has four page spread explaining that with hindsight, and all things being equal, lives could have been saved by locking down earlier. A bit like an investment advisor telling you that with hindsight your broker ought to have sold your equity portfolio in February.
The outgoing President of the Royal Society was a breath of fresh air on Marr Show this morning. Went downhill from there, though.
On Thursday the Government has to update the nation on lockdown. I can only hope that sense prevails and we move to level 3.