Coronavirus - New Zealand
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This is quite an amazing outcome. In 3 months we look to have pretty much eradicated a very contagious virus.
The process has come at a cost but at least we arent in a situation like some other where there is going to be a big risk of a second wave or a continuation of major restrictions.
Prove that we are free of risk within our borders and businesses can have confidence on forging ahead with rebuilding. I reckon that confidence level is one of the keys to recovery.
If Oz can ensure us that the risk of movement is both very low and any new cases can be identified and contained very quickly then we can take another step. Same goes for the island nations.
Hopefully a sensible approach to cross border economic activity is taken. One that balances the need to be tight with pragmatism instead of bereaucracy. If 'outsiders' can show that they will bring money and work here then look for reasons to let them, not to stop them. Bureaucrats need a rev up at the moment.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
this person was in thier 90s
wow, how amazingly rare...
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@mariner4life she had also had COVID been hospitalised, recovered, gone back to the Rest Home she lived in, had two subsequent negative test results and then died.
Family are convinced she is a victim of CV and MoH have agreed to include her in their figures.
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More details about the elderly woman who passed away.
We have been asked to provide some comment following the death of Eileen Hunter, a resident from St Margaret’s Hospital & Rest Home. We are providing Eileen’s name following a request to do so by her family. Eileen was in her 90s and passed away on Sunday. She was much loved by those who knew her. Eileen was confirmed as having COVID-19 in mid-April and had been transferred from St Margaret’s to Waitakere hospital and then to North Shore hospital. Once recovered, with two negative test results, she was transferred back to St Margaret’s. The family has asked the Ministry to pass on their thanks for the care of their mother at St Margaret's and at Waitakere and North Shore hospitals. In turn, we extend our sympathy to her family for their loss. It is important to note that Eileen was regarded as having recovered from COVID-19 at the time of her death and COVID-19 is not recorded as the primary cause of her death. After consideration, we have decided to include Eileen's death in our overall tally of COVID-19 related deaths, consistent with our inclusive approach to date. This means the number of COVID-19 related deaths in New Zealand is now 22.
https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/no-new-cases-covid-19-14
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WTF why would they have an "inclusive approach"?! They either had it or they didn't.
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so wait. You have 8 total active cases. No one in Hospital. Day after day of no new cases.
And the only thing to note is a really old person who died. And she had it once, but recovered, and then died later. But you're still counting it.
Why they fuck aren't you guys fully open?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
so wait. You have 8 total active cases. No one in Hospital. Day after day of no new cases.
And the only thing to note is a really old person who died. And she had it once, but recovered, and then died later. But you're still counting it.
Why they fuck aren't you guys fully open?
I guess we could ask the same of QLD. Four cases in hospital, one of which is in ICU.
What do Jacinda and Annastacia have in common?
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
WTF why would they have an "inclusive approach"?! They either had it or they didn't.
Inclusivity over facts. Amazing manipulation for what reason?
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
so wait. You have 8 total active cases. No one in Hospital. Day after day of no new cases.
And the only thing to note is a really old person who died. And she had it once, but recovered, and then died later. But you're still counting it.
Why they fuck aren't you guys fully open?
I guess we could ask the same of QLD. Four cases in hospital, one of which is in ICU.
What do Jacinda and Annastacia have in common?
do not get me started about Qld again.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
so wait. You have 8 total active cases. No one in Hospital. Day after day of no new cases.
And the only thing to note is a really old person who died. And she had it once, but recovered, and then died later. But you're still counting it.
Why they fuck aren't you guys fully open?
I guess we could ask the same of QLD. Four cases in hospital, one of which is in ICU.
What do Jacinda and Annastacia have in common?
30yo dude dying in Blackwater with no idea how he got it (or that he had it) just a little risky.
But agree with the sentiment.
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@No-Quarter I guess you could make an argument that CV weakened her...??
But yeah seems a stretch to include her when she has supposedly recovered from it and been tested as no longer having it...
Given we had 12 people recover overnight, it is entirely possible we could have 0 active cases tomorrow, although more likely by the end of the long weekend (assuming no new cases emrge over the weekend)...once new cases and active are at zero, there surely has be no reason not to move levels again??
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter I guess you could make an argument that CV weakened her...??
Covid pobably didn't weaken her much more than her being 90-fucking-years of age!!!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo er, I did quantify my statement in the next line saying it was a stretch...
I know, I know, sorry! Wasn't a dig, just having a laugh 😁
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@voodoo I was going to say that in my original post but then figured what the hell not my call and it gives her grieving family some solace then hey-ho.
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Why they fuck aren't you guys fully open?
Pretty much are or will be by midday tomorrow. Those things that aren't open its more that they can't commercially than that they aren't allowed to.Apart from lots of people working from home as I wander around everything is open - bars all doing well - restaurants OK-ish, even the local brothels are open for whatever tickles your fancy.
I'm heading north tomorrow will be interesting to see how life is in the shires
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
MoH have agreed to include her in their figures.
And yet:
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
COVID-19 is not recorded as the primary cause of her death.
And yet:
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
After consideration, we have decided to include Eileen's death in our overall tally of COVID-19 related deaths, consistent with our inclusive approach to date.
Makes a mockery of the numbers.
A shark eats someone who was tested positive would be a covid death FFS.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy I don't see why you're complaining. This plays right into your hands.
Sure, "a shark" ate them.
I'm not complaining and I need a winter wardrobe, but it does make make me wonder about the stats. They probably include missing people as covid deaths. I have no further comment on that.
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Snowy Kills More People Than Covid
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Snowy Kills More People Than Covid
A stretch but I'll take it.