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@dogmeat yep. Twyford and Clarke have done untold damage imo. I do wonder how close Ardern is to cutting them - surely it'd be kinder to remove then from opportunities to show out of their depth they are... and certainly kinder for us!!
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@Paekakboyz I thought Twyford was good as opposition spokesperson on Transport. Met with him a couple of times and he certainly came across more credibly than Fatman or Soiman. I had high hopes.
However it quickly became apparent that he is one of those big sky thinkers - good in a brainstorming session but don't ever ask him to deliver anything as he has a) zero attention to detail and so b) gets drawn away into anotherr hobby horse - Shiny, shiny, want it, must have it precious.
Clarke though is an unmitigated fluffybunny
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@Paekakboyz I thought Twyford was good as opposition spokesperson on Transport. Met with him a couple of times and he certainly came across more credibly than Fatman or Soiman. I had high hopes.
However it quickly became apparent that he is one of those big sky thinkers - good in a brainstorming session but don't ever ask him to deliver anything as he has a) zero attention to detail and so b) gets drawn away into anotherr hobby horse - Shiny, shiny, want it, must have it precious.
Clarke though is an unmitigated fluffybunny
I think this description fits for all of Jacinda's mob. Big ideas, zero operational ability, as illustrated by the quarantine snafu and the aforementioned Kiwibuild scheme. Also, where the fuck are my 1000000 trees?
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@mariner4life problem with any type of bus is that the roads into the CBD are at capacity now and the buses grid lock - irrespective of the drive train
@taniwharugby Apparently Winnie was able to wheedle out of the Agreement because of the introduction of the PPP element.
Fucking Twyford. This project was pretty much "shovel ready" in 2017. Then he took it off AT and gave it to NZTA. Then he had dinner with the Canadians and was seduced by the latest bright shiny thing and it all became a cluster fuck. He really is a moron. He made it all about travel times to the airport whereas it was and still should be about a) freeing upo Dominion Road from the buses and b) offering rapid transit to Mt Roskill and Mangere.
Real losers are the west as this has killed the prospect of Light Rail to Kumeu which IMO should be an even higer priority (and should have been built when they widened the motorway)
Kumeu is a shitshow. We were looking at houses out that way, it's a nice area but the bridge out is at gridlock most of the time. No plans to increase capacity out there for roads either, and more developments are going up. What could go wrong?
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@mariner4life problem with any type of bus is that the roads into the CBD are at capacity now and the buses grid lock - irrespective of the drive train
@taniwharugby Apparently Winnie was able to wheedle out of the Agreement because of the introduction of the PPP element.
Fucking Twyford. This project was pretty much "shovel ready" in 2017. Then he took it off AT and gave it to NZTA. Then he had dinner with the Canadians and was seduced by the latest bright shiny thing and it all became a cluster fuck. He really is a moron. He made it all about travel times to the airport whereas it was and still should be about a) freeing upo Dominion Road from the buses and b) offering rapid transit to Mt Roskill and Mangere.
Real losers are the west as this has killed the prospect of Light Rail to Kumeu which IMO should be an even higer priority (and should have been built when they widened the motorway)
They did the same thing out Botany way, when they built Te Irirangi Drive to connect Botany Downs to Manukau City. They built 4 lanes with a wide strip down the middle, perfect size for rapid bus lanes, and what did they do next? Planted a line of huge palm trees instead. So while you sit in gridlock every morning and every evening you can run the risk of the birds shitting on your car. Jesus wept
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@Kirwan
Good news is that there is a Plan. Supporting Growth an alliance between AT, NZTA and various consultacies put this out mid last year
Bad news is - it's a 30 year plan with no timeframes or costings yet.
However when I first started lobbying govt for the SH18/SH1 connection to be upgraded to motorway status thus completing the western ring route I was told it was 30 years away yet now it's half built.
So there is hope.
Mind you I'll be dead before most of my wish list is started let alone completed. -
@taniwharugby she's been back on the usual travel cycle, was opening a school in Christchurch the other day.
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Kiwibuild targets were too ambitious for the conservative fiscal approach to it.
Certainly consistent with the narrative that they have lots of ideas but no idea how to implement them
what, throwing money at things doesn't get results? Quelle horreur
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Kiwibuild targets were too ambitious for the conservative fiscal approach to it.
Certainly consistent with the narrative that they have lots of ideas but no idea how to implement them
what, throwing money at things doesn't get results? Quelle horreur
Yes, I'm shocked
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@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Kiwibuild targets were too ambitious for the conservative fiscal approach to it.
It’s almost like they learned the theory but have never had to run an actual business or implement anything.
Add in their consistent surprise at unintended consequences (like attacking landlords raising rents for the poor), and the damage these clowns are doing is huge.
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@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Kiwibuild targets were too ambitious for the conservative fiscal approach to it.
It’s almost like they learned the theory but have never had to run an actual business or implement anything.
Add in their consistent surprise at unintended consequences (like attacking landlords raising rents for the poor), and the damage these clowns are doing is huge.
And Cindy's penchant for recruiting lawyers, community medical people and probably more teachers instead of actual business people that run actual businesses into her caucus will not help.
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