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@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
How much could we save by not having an Election. Let's just all agree that Labour will get another term and let's look forward to the 2023 Election.
Labour a few months out from the last one polled at less than 25%, and changed to their third leader in a short period.
Nothing is a slam dunk with our system and voters.
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@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
How much could we save by not having an Election. Let's just all agree that Labour will get another term and let's look forward to the 2023 Election.
Labour a few months out from the last one polled at less than 25%, and changed to their third leader in a short period.
Nothing is a slam dunk with our system and voters.
That is true but I still think Labour will walk this election.
In my eyes it's a foregone conclusion
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@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
How much could we save by not having an Election. Let's just all agree that Labour will get another term and let's look forward to the 2023 Election.
Labour a few months out from the last one polled at less than 25%, and changed to their third leader in a short period.
Nothing is a slam dunk with our system and voters.
That is true but I still think Labour will walk this election.
In my eyes it's a foregone conclusion
Not disagreeing with that, just that it's a waste of time to have it. Same thing could have been said last time.
If NZ First and the Greens don't make the 5% threshold it could be very interesting.
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@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
How much could we save by not having an Election. Let's just all agree that Labour will get another term and let's look forward to the 2023 Election.
Labour a few months out from the last one polled at less than 25%, and changed to their third leader in a short period.
Nothing is a slam dunk with our system and voters.
That is true but I still think Labour will walk this election.
In my eyes it's a foregone conclusion
Not disagreeing with that, just that it's a waste of time to have it. Same thing could have been said last time.
If NZ First and the Greens don't make the 5% threshold it could be very interesting.
I would love the Greens not to make that threshold! Love it!
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@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
How much could we save by not having an Election. Let's just all agree that Labour will get another term and let's look forward to the 2023 Election.
Labour a few months out from the last one polled at less than 25%, and changed to their third leader in a short period.
Nothing is a slam dunk with our system and voters.
That is true but I still think Labour will walk this election.
In my eyes it's a foregone conclusion
But we don't know if they will be able to govern alone, or who the makeup of any coalition would be. At its height even the highly popular John Key government didn't command enough of the vote to govern alone
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
How much could we save by not having an Election. Let's just all agree that Labour will get another term and let's look forward to the 2023 Election.
Labour a few months out from the last one polled at less than 25%, and changed to their third leader in a short period.
Nothing is a slam dunk with our system and voters.
That is true but I still think Labour will walk this election.
In my eyes it's a foregone conclusion
But we don't know if they will be able to govern alone, or who the makeup of any coalition would be. At its height even the highly popular John Key government didn't command enough of the vote to govern alone
I need to elborate that I don't really think we should give Labour three more years without an election. I was more suggesting that Cindy will be our prime minister after this election one way or another.
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@Hooroo said in NZ Politics:
I need to elborate that I don't really think we should give Labour three more years without an election. I was more suggesting that Cindy will be our prime minister after this election one way or another.
You could make some coin - Betfair had Labour at $1.17-$1.20 to supply the next PM. Could drop a lazy few thousand on there ... for some folk could be nice loss insurance
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
But if NZF or the commies fall short would that only leave two parties in Parliament? (although are National setting up ACT to get Epsom? ) So one should be able to govern alone.
if Greens miss out, it'll probably be because Labour are polling so strongly. So that woudl be a straight shootout between a strongly polling Labour, and Nat+Act. Can't see Labour being lower, but goddamn 2 weeks has been an eternity in Politics this year, and we're still 60 days away...
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I think we're all being a bit harsh on Falloon. After all, you have to give him some credit for all this. He was only holding the biosecurity portfolio for National for a couple of months, yet in that short space of time, he was able to unearth a massive pest.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@canefan he has been playing the politics game particularly well in the past couple of months too, timing his run as usual...
Gotta hand it to him, slippery and cunning, the ultimate survivor
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media seem to be keener on this story than the Labour sex abuse one...
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@taniwharugby this is higher profile since it involves an actual MP and apparently a long period of time as a predator, rather than a douchebag at a camp.
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Comparing What this dick did to what another dick did just misses the point. They are dicks.
What makes Fallon an extra dick is a lack of apology to those he sent stuff to, lying in an attempted coverup and then playing a mental health card for sympathy.
What kind of “vetting” do these politicians get before being allowed to stand or added to a list? Looks like fuck all. -
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Our system doesn't really involve a lot of hurdles - parties are more discerning than they once were, but the principle of democracy basically makes it a problem for voters as much as anything.
Sure, anyone can stand but I would have thought that parties would vet better in their own interests. At least enough to weed out creeps that will cause embarrassment later.
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