Coronavirus - New Zealand
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These guys are not NZ citizens. they just happen to be employed here. I think the govt has to hold firm or else open the door to thousands of other non NZ citizens who also have worked here, but are currently overseas.
@MajorRage If you have dual citizenship then NZ could strip you of yr Kiwi citizenship. Plenty of countries make you give up your birth rights if you take on their citizenship. However we have chosen not to do this so it would require an Act of Parliament and the govt's a bit busy right now. As a NZ citizen international law says we have to let you in.
As the two Warriors are essentially visitors - we don't. Tough on them. Yeah but someone fucked up in the back office. Not the govt's issue. they can't be seen to make exceptions for a couple of footy players. You can't argue League is an essential industry. Maybe if the Warriors were actually any good but - yeah nah.
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Come on.
If Americas Cup, Weta, and potentially South African and Argentine rugby teams (wont happen IMO) can be exempted ... clear case for it here.
Sentimentality or pragmatism? Bit of both.
If Bledisloe games were to happen in Australia, Reece cant go? (I'd be OKish with that ... not a fan of all WR eligibility rules .... ) although would assume he'd have PR status at least by now, just speculating an extreme example .
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@Rapido said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If Americas Cup, Weta, and potentially South African and Argentine rugby teams (wont happen IMO) can be exempted ... clear case for it here.
yeah is odd alright.
Have to think if they want to come back, pay for isolation, it is same as above?
I know they need to draw thier line in the sand somewhere, but...
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Rapido said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If Americas Cup, Weta, and potentially South African and Argentine rugby teams (wont happen IMO) can be exempted ... clear case for it here.
yeah is odd alright.
Have to think if they want to come back, pay for isolation, it is same as above?
I know they need to draw thier line in the sand somewhere, but...
I think it will get done once the bureaucrats get their fingers out of their asses. Phoenix overseas players will need to come back too. A pretty odd example to plant your flag on and say no exceptions for me
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The problem was that the Warriors/George and NRL were so concerned about getting the Warriors to Aust that they didn't look at the implications for returning under the Covid-19 border restrictions. It's not just these 2 players, some of the Warriors' Aussie players are in the same situation. Common sense will prevail in the end.
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@Bovidae I expect the media will paint it that sports stars getting preferential treatment, despite the fact when you look at it, it should never really have been an issue.
But yeah the Warriors need to take this one.
I see the Moscow Circus had thier first show in Whangarei last night, unsure when they arrived in NZ, but have to assume it has been in the last month or so, so guess they had to pay to stay in isolation at some point.
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Can someone help. Perhaps @Snowy if you're still connected with AirNZ internally.
Are international passengers on same flights as domestic passengers when they are moved to quarantine facilities throughout the country (Rotorua, ChCh etc)
I don't know mate. I do know people there but not many of them are working.
I suspect that they do use the same flights) but they are doing distancing still, I think, and sterilising after every sector.
Wasn't the medical consensus that you needed to be in close contact with someone for around 2 hours to contract the disease? Or was that all bullshit to make us all feel better? If true it makes most domestic flights pretty safe. -
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Can someone help. Perhaps @Snowy if you're still connected with AirNZ internally.
Are international passengers on same flights as domestic passengers when they are moved to quarantine facilities throughout the country (Rotorua, ChCh etc)
I don't know mate. I do know people there but not many of them are working.
I suspect that they do use the same flights) but they are doing distancing still, I think, and sterilising after every sector.
Wasn't the medical consensus that you needed to be in close contact with someone for around 2 hours to contract the disease? Or was that all bullshit to make us all feel better? If true it makes most domestic flights pretty safe.I'm not sure. I hope that is the case
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat Can do a lot of things (twice) in 15 minutes....
Having a nice chat to yourself?
if you subbed int eh word "interesting" it would be a lot shorter than 15 minutes, or a lot more than twice
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan @mariner4life old people eh
oh good point. you could conceivably have the same conversation more than once
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy MoH say less than 15 minutes close contact and you should be OK
That rules out all flights but the distancing is important too I suppose - eliminate the close contact bit. Masks just to stop anyone sneezing or coughing on someone else could be handed out before boarding? I dunno.
Aircraft air con systems are pretty good with HEPA filters so it really should be safe enough. -
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan @mariner4life old people eh
oh good point. you could conceivably have the same conversation more than once
Can do a lot of things (twice) in 15 minutes....
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Masks just to stop anyone sneezing or coughing on someone else could be handed out before boarding?
Probably should have added condoms as well as masks to avoid the mile high close contact. Particularly in Victoria (the state, not the girl that you all know).
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@taniwharugby I think the Moscow Circus has been stranded here the whole time. From memory they were in the country in March and got caught with some of the border closures