Coronavirus - Australia
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
"it's to protect the Qld economy". Not sure she understands how these things work.
to be fair, not having tourists is less worse than having everything shut down
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Ha! There are some great Simpsons political memes out there.
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Really strange sort of a time in Tourism.
The first shutdown we were racing around shutting down, sorting out financiers, trying to help employees, trying to wrap our heads around JobKeeper. Then it was all about how to keep people at least a little bit busy, and perform some maintenance and polish on the parks. Then it was how to re-open before we knew it.
We have had an interim bit where we have been open, but not many through the doors, but with optimism that it should continue to get better as the southern states came on line. Talk of travel bubbles with NZ, Japan, and Korea were glimmers of hope, especially if Aus continued to be a safe looking destination.
Then Victoria. And we just knew what was coming. Victoria being blocked was inevitable. Sydney was a proper blow, and after that the closing of the borders to the whole of NSW was both unsurprising, and in a small way a positive (people from the South East can't pop down to Byron).
Now? We sat in a meeting today and spelled it out. There will not be a domestic boom for us in 2020 at all, in fact we will barely see a tourist from down South. The next positive we could see is maybe Easter next year. But more likely this time next year.
That's 11 months from now. 11 months before we will see any meaningful turnover. 11 months where our remaining 180 staff have to muddle along at ever-reducing JobKeeper amounts. 11 months where we open because it is better to scrape a few hundred a day than nothing.
The way the rest of the World is looking, International tourism is still 18 months away, at the earliest. So we are looking at 2022 before we start to see any "normal" activity. And even then, what does it look like?
And there is nothing we can do about any of it. Nothing we do makes one iota of a difference to our situation. We've done all the slashing and burning it's possible to do. We survive as long as the Government keeps paying our bills.
And with 1 in 5 jobs in Cairns being either in, or supporting, Tourism it's not like all of these people can go and do something else.
Strange, and very depressing times.
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@mariner4life Yeah it really sucks, a couple of mates and I were firming up some Cairns travel plans for September ... looks like we'll be road tripping in NSW instead.
I hope you're able to ride out the downturn, sounds like you're in a tough spot.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Strange, and very depressing times.
Mate that is fucking horrid.
Queenslanders need to do what is happening here and support the locals. I do think that it is going to get worse though. The more people out of work will remove any spending, even locally. A long road out for most of us.
Enjoy the time with your kids and the new puppy (she/ he will cheer you up too).
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Just got a COVID test after being symptomatic overnight. The nurse was cute behind the mask (nice eyes) but she fucking reamed my brainstem with that fucking swab...
I think I'm in love.
To lighten the mood- she might have fancied you. They are mostly doing oral (yes) now I believe so the "insertions" aren't quite as bad. Good that you enjoyed it though.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Strange, and very depressing times.
Mate that is fucking horrid.
Queenslanders need to do what is happening here and support the locals. I do think that it is going to get worse though. The more people out of work will remove any spending, even locally. A long road out for most of us.
Enjoy the time with your kids and the new puppy (she/ he will cheer you up too).
I'm still actually really busy, and the wife is in the middle of her busy season. So there isn't even more time for that other stuff.
I'm monitoring costs and wages. Applying for Government assistance. Sitting in depressing meetings. Keeping the Bank in the loop.
We have a saving grace, in that our bus wholesale business is still going ahead, and the Electric city buses are starting to kick some goals. It's what is keeping us from throwing our hands in the air and saying "fuck it"
Oh, and i am still trying to get money out of debtors, and dealing with agents who seem to think there won't be any changes to the terms of business. That's always fun.
Consequently, my personal financial situation continues unchanged for now, which i realise is a massive massive blessing. And makes me feel like a piece of shit with some of the decisions i am forced to make.
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as to your "support locals" bit, that has definitely happened. Most of our visitors are locals, or from the broader North Qld area. But to get any serious income, we need Brisbane-ites to get on a plane. That's still a tough sell. We are a long way from anywhere.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Just got a COVID test after being symptomatic overnight. The nurse was cute behind the mask (nice eyes) but she fucking reamed my brainstem with that fucking swab...
I think I'm in love.
To lighten the mood- she might have fancied you. They are mostly doing oral (yes) now I believe so the "insertions" aren't quite as bad. Good that you enjoyed it though.
I got both oral and nasal, in sequence.
So it doesn't count as double penetration.
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Just got a COVID test after being symptomatic overnight. The nurse was cute behind the mask (nice eyes) but she fucking reamed my brainstem with that fucking swab...
I think I'm in love.
To lighten the mood- she might have fancied you. They are mostly doing oral (yes) now I believe so the "insertions" aren't quite as bad. Good that you enjoyed it though.
I got both oral and nasal, in sequence.
So it doesn't count as double penetration.
faced fucked on the first date
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Just got a COVID test after being symptomatic overnight. The nurse was cute behind the mask (nice eyes) but she fucking reamed my brainstem with that fucking swab...
I think I'm in love.
To lighten the mood- she might have fancied you. They are mostly doing oral (yes) now I believe so the "insertions" aren't quite as bad. Good that you enjoyed it though.
I got both oral and nasal, in sequence.
So it doesn't count as double penetration.
faced fucked on the first date
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
as to your "support locals" bit, that has definitely happened. Most of our visitors are locals, or from the broader North Qld area. But to get any serious income, we need Brisbane-ites to get on a plane. That's still a tough sell. We are a long way from anywhere.
And the odd Mexican by the sounds of it....
There were quite a few Melbournians already on the road with caravan in tow to go north. They got into Qld before border shutdowns and massive rises in case numbers here. They are now staying put in the warm weather and extending their qld stay because they donβt have a job to come back too!
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Really strange sort of a time in Tourism.
The first shutdown we were racing around shutting down, sorting out financiers, trying to help employees, trying to wrap our heads around JobKeeper. Then it was all about how to keep people at least a little bit busy, and perform some maintenance and polish on the parks. Then it was how to re-open before we knew it.
We have had an interim bit where we have been open, but not many through the doors, but with optimism that it should continue to get better as the southern states came on line. Talk of travel bubbles with NZ, Japan, and Korea were glimmers of hope, especially if Aus continued to be a safe looking destination.
Then Victoria. And we just knew what was coming. Victoria being blocked was inevitable. Sydney was a proper blow, and after that the closing of the borders to the whole of NSW was both unsurprising, and in a small way a positive (people from the South East can't pop down to Byron).
Now? We sat in a meeting today and spelled it out. There will not be a domestic boom for us in 2020 at all, in fact we will barely see a tourist from down South. The next positive we could see is maybe Easter next year. But more likely this time next year.
That's 11 months from now. 11 months before we will see any meaningful turnover. 11 months where our remaining 180 staff have to muddle along at ever-reducing JobKeeper amounts. 11 months where we open because it is better to scrape a few hundred a day than nothing.
The way the rest of the World is looking, International tourism is still 18 months away, at the earliest. So we are looking at 2022 before we start to see any "normal" activity. And even then, what does it look like?
And there is nothing we can do about any of it. Nothing we do makes one iota of a difference to our situation. We've done all the slashing and burning it's possible to do. We survive as long as the Government keeps paying our bills.
And with 1 in 5 jobs in Cairns being either in, or supporting, Tourism it's not like all of these people can go and do something else.
Strange, and very depressing times.
Really keen to spend some money with you at Christmas though dude.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Really strange sort of a time in Tourism.
The first shutdown we were racing around shutting down, sorting out financiers, trying to help employees, trying to wrap our heads around JobKeeper. Then it was all about how to keep people at least a little bit busy, and perform some maintenance and polish on the parks. Then it was how to re-open before we knew it.
We have had an interim bit where we have been open, but not many through the doors, but with optimism that it should continue to get better as the southern states came on line. Talk of travel bubbles with NZ, Japan, and Korea were glimmers of hope, especially if Aus continued to be a safe looking destination.
Then Victoria. And we just knew what was coming. Victoria being blocked was inevitable. Sydney was a proper blow, and after that the closing of the borders to the whole of NSW was both unsurprising, and in a small way a positive (people from the South East can't pop down to Byron).
Now? We sat in a meeting today and spelled it out. There will not be a domestic boom for us in 2020 at all, in fact we will barely see a tourist from down South. The next positive we could see is maybe Easter next year. But more likely this time next year.
That's 11 months from now. 11 months before we will see any meaningful turnover. 11 months where our remaining 180 staff have to muddle along at ever-reducing JobKeeper amounts. 11 months where we open because it is better to scrape a few hundred a day than nothing.
The way the rest of the World is looking, International tourism is still 18 months away, at the earliest. So we are looking at 2022 before we start to see any "normal" activity. And even then, what does it look like?
And there is nothing we can do about any of it. Nothing we do makes one iota of a difference to our situation. We've done all the slashing and burning it's possible to do. We survive as long as the Government keeps paying our bills.
And with 1 in 5 jobs in Cairns being either in, or supporting, Tourism it's not like all of these people can go and do something else.
Strange, and very depressing times.
Really keen to spend some money with you at Christmas though dude.
We'll spend some money together! π»π»π»
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Odd last few posts. Mariner pours his guts out and NTA offers all sorts of sexual innuendo around getting a Covid test.
All intertwined, with occasional cross over.
Freaks.
You're not reading it right. The innuendo is suffocating - remember it's m4l.
Really strange sort of a time in Tourism. The first shutdown we were racing around shutting down, sorting out financiers, trying to help employees, trying to **wrap our heads** around JobKeeper. Then it was all about how to keep people at least a little bit busy, and **perform some maintenance** and **polish** on the parks. Then it was how to re-open before we knew it. We have had an interim bit where we have been open, but not many through the doors, but with optimism that it should continue to get better as the southern states came on line. Talk of travel bubbles with NZ, Japan, and Korea were glimmers of hope, especially if Aus continued to be a safe looking destination. Then Victoria. And we just knew what was coming. Victoria being blocked was inevitable. Sydney was **a proper blow**, and after that the closing of the borders to the whole of NSW was both unsurprising, and in a small way a positive (people from the South East can't **pop down** to Byron). Now? We sat in a meeting today and spelled it out. There will not be a domestic **boom** for us in 2020 at all, in fact we will **barely** see a tourist from down South. The next positive we could see is maybe Easter next year. But more likely this time next year. That's 11 months from now. 11 months before we will see any **meaningful turnover**. 11 months where our remaining 180 staff have to muddle along at ever-reducing JobKeeper amounts. 11 months where we open because it is better to scrape a few hundred a day than nothing. The way the rest of the World is looking, International tourism is still 18 months away, at the earliest. So we are looking at 2022 before we start to see any "normal" **activity**. And even then, **what does it look like**? And there is nothing we can do about any of it. Nothing we do makes one iota of a difference to our situation. We've done all the **slashing** and burning it's possible to do. We survive as **long** as the Government keeps paying our bills. And with 1 in 5 jobs in Cairns being either in, or supporting, Tourism it's not like all of these people can go and do something else. Strange, and very depressing times.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Strange, and very depressing times.
Mate that is fucking horrid.
Queenslanders need to do what is happening here and support the locals. I do think that it is going to get worse though. The more people out of work will remove any spending, even locally. A long road out for most of us.
Enjoy the time with your kids and the new puppy (she/ he will cheer you up too).
I'm still actually really busy, and the wife is in the middle of her busy season. So there isn't even more time for that other stuff.
I'm monitoring costs and wages. Applying for Government assistance. Sitting in depressing meetings. Keeping the Bank in the loop.
We have a saving grace, in that our bus wholesale business is still going ahead, and the Electric city buses are starting to kick some goals. It's what is keeping us from throwing our hands in the air and saying "fuck it"
Oh, and i am still trying to get money out of debtors, and dealing with agents who seem to think there won't be any changes to the terms of business. That's always fun.
Consequently, my personal financial situation continues unchanged for now, which i realise is a massive massive blessing. And makes me feel like a piece of shit with some of the decisions i am forced to make.
What is it you do? Between being hit by tourism and bus comments Iβm rather curious .... and lost!
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Australia:
The innuendo is suffocating -
Innuendo being an Italian suppository, and suffocating, means you that you are putting it in the wrong place.
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Freaks.
You've been here for about 20 years and this just occurred to you?