Coronavirus - Overall
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@antipodean quite interesting results. Even if all those that would normally die from flu succumbed to COVID there's still large surplus deaths - even with all the social distancing and other protective measures in place Certainly in % terms
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@Rapido said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Podcast asked if flu testing was down? Because of focus on corona testing.
Flu testing was down by 20%.
Or are you asking how many of the flu deaths were taken by covid instead? Yeah, would have to guess "some". Somewhere between "some" and "most.
Doesn't surprise me that there was a significant decline due to less travel and social distancing. I'd hazard a guess we're still in front given the reported virulence of covid-19
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@Kiwiwomble must be slow internet at his work!
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Russia's exceess mortality:
But data released by the Rosstat State Statistics Service on Sept. 4 show there were 57,800 excess deaths between May and July, the peak of the outbreak.
The figure was calculated by comparing fatalities over those three months in 2020 with the average number of May-July deaths between 2015 and 2019. The excess total is more than three times greater than the official May-July COVID-19 death toll of 15,955.
It's not horrendous. 57k in a big country. But a dose of reality compared to the official figures.
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Sweden's 'dry tinder'.
But what happens when a country has a few light influenza seasons in a row? Just like branches gathering on the forest floor, the result is a build-up of “dry tinder.”
Interesting article and study. However I'd caution. As the EUROMOMO graphs in the article show, their neighbours also had the same amount of dry tinder.
Can see euromomo graphs here:
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NZ flu hospitalisation numbers, relevant to discussion earlier.
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I wonder what role or contribution China has made in the hunt for a vaccine?
Maybe they're helping, just never hear anything.
I read about some 'non optional' vaccinations in China.
and there's this from a few weeks ago (just googled)https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53917315
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@Siam I posted a link to a Washington Post article that listed all vaccines under development and where they are at last week
The most developed are a viral vectored vaccine by CanSino Biologics; Beijing Institute of Biotechnology which is currently undergoing Stage 3 Trials and concurrently being distributed and a more traditional weakened virus vaccine also at Stage 3 by Beijing Institute of Biological Products; Sinopharm
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Siam I posted a link to a Washington Post article that listed all vaccines under development and where they are at last week
The most developed are a viral vectored vaccine by CanSino Biologics; Beijing Institute of Biotechnology which is currently undergoing Stage 3 Trials and concurrently being distributed and a more traditional weakened virus vaccine also at Stage 3 by Beijing Institute of Biological Products; Sinopharm
Wonder if China's coronavirus programs can be trusted.
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@Siam Hard to know who to believe given her employers were Hong Kong University and they could easily have succumbed to pressure from Beijing, but this claim has been repudiated already by a host of independent sources, the University says she's bullshitting, other virologists have come out and said she's making stuff up, she has links with Steve Bannon and Guo Wengui. All of which is enough to discredit her IMO unless other independent sources substantiate what she is saying.
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Interesting. HKU are unlikely to be influenced by Beijing - well the scientists anyway. Management may have political pressure.
My wife spent 15 years working there, interviewing scientists and documenting the research, including virology. They do know their stuff. Some of the world's leading virologists are there. It has been predicted for decades that the next pandemic would come out of Southern China. Population densities, strange menu choices, etc.
It is no surprise that a Ferner in the field has ended up there.
So I'm with you @dogmeat . She's telling Porkies (unfortunate turn of phrase - but apt given history), or her research has some serious flaws.