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@TeWaio said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
I can see why the likes of @Snowy out in the boonies might feel he gets no benefit from it but that's the nature of any taxation. My tax contributes to lots of things that don't benefit me directly.
All of mine does go somewhere else, which is my issue. Fuel tax? For AKL? WTF. I live so far away and try not to go there but still cop it. I could drive 60km north and save some cash but that is defeating the purpose. I would rather the tax money went somewhere and could see some results, which we don't.
Rates are tax. I get nothing. Why are they they same everywhere? The supercity is a serious rort.
Blame ACT for that one, that was a Rodney Hide special.
Despite the complaints, we tax fuel less than most of the OECD apparently (https://www.aa.co.nz/cars/owning-a-car/fuel-prices-and-types/how-petrol-prices-are-calculated/)
Hypothecation of fuel taxes was introduced by Dr Cullen (Labour) from July 2008.
I know people like to complain, but we are a low tax country by OECD measures. A few tweaks and small increases here and there doesn't change that. Even if we introduced the Green tax and welfare policies, we would still be in the bottom half of the OECD for tax.
Yep, everyone upset about NZ tax hikes should try living in the UK. Scandinavian-style tax with the state providing comparatively stuff all..
Lived in the UK for over ten years, experienced that shit show. A big reason I don't want NZ to go down the same path.
Also, pointing at other countries (like Godder above) saying we aren't as bad as them is such a low bar. We are a small country and need to be innovative as much as possible to maximise what little benefits we have.
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The controversial ‘selfie' photo was taken with a group of Ardern’s fans during her visit to the university.
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@taniwharugby One rule for the ruling classes....
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Let's kick employers while they're down, they can afford it....
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12366237
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@Rembrandt said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Jesus Christ! Wtf this along with increase to minimum wage. Insanity
They clearly feel they can't lose and are slipping a few extra things in
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@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby One rule for the ruling classes....
Not a great look after imposing the strictest lockdowns on the planet. Is it a serious virus or isn't it?
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@Godder said in NZ Politics:
The 10 days sick leave is an E Tu policy remit I believe. The $20 minimum wage by April 2021 is current policy agreed with NZ First, so not much of an announcement.
How useful is a minimum wage? Is it just inflationary or does it actually help prevent exploitation? I live in Switzerland, where everyone is well paid, and interestingly there is no legal minimum wage. I’ve now lived in NZ, Australia, France, Ireland and Switzerland, and the latter is by far and away the best run country.
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@Billy-Tell said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
The 10 days sick leave is an E Tu policy remit I believe. The $20 minimum wage by April 2021 is current policy agreed with NZ First, so not much of an announcement.
How useful is a minimum wage? Is it just inflationary or does it actually help prevent exploitation? I live in Switzerland, where everyone is well paid, and interestingly there is no legal minimum wage. I’ve now lived in NZ, Australia, France, Ireland and Switzerland, and the latter is by far and away the best run country.
Depends on the country I guess. A lot of Scandinavian countries also have no legal minimum wage, but there are union-negotiated awards which do the same job.
The original purpose of the minimum wage was to allow a man to support a family on one income with enough surplus to buy a house and enough spare time to keep a vegetable garden. Has been a long time since that was possible on the minimum wage...
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@Godder the price of vege's is truly a disgrace
NZ Business pre-election survey had something like 68% of companies in favour of paying the Living Wage so a rise to the minimum wage doesn't seem out of step with business sentiment
@Billy-Tell agree about Switzerland - unless you want to wash your car on a Sunday of course or disagree with the mandatory irony by-pass
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@Godder the price of vege's is truly a disgrace
NZ Business pre-election survey had something like 68% of companies in favour of paying the Living Wage so a rise to the minimum wage doesn't seem out of step with business sentiment
@Billy-Tell agree about Switzerland - unless you want to wash your car on a Sunday of course or disagree with the mandatory irony by-pass
Huh?
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@Godder the price of vege's is truly a disgrace
NZ Business pre-election survey had something like 68% of companies in favour of paying the Living Wage so a rise to the minimum wage doesn't seem out of step with business sentiment
@Billy-Tell agree about Switzerland - unless you want to wash your car on a Sunday of course or disagree with the mandatory irony by-pass
Huh?
command and control: https://www.newlyswissed.com/11-weird-swiss-laws/
Naturally, you may not wash your car on a Sunday.
Washing a car on Sunday in a car-wash is no problem. In fact, some car washes are so remote that nobody would even notice!However, it becomes a problem when someone decides to wash a car in their driveway - on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday... You get the picture! Local Swiss laws prohibit the use of a power washer altogether, and there is concern that the detergent would pollute the ground water and thus the environment.
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I’m not encouraged by National’s dropping the ball on something as simple as arithmetic. if their point of difference is economic competence they’ve got a weird way of demonstrating it. It’s a bit scary that our choices for running the country’s Treasury are between two parties who don’t seem to understand the importance of precision.
Still, it’s only money and I’ll be dead long before they pay off this debt.
Shame about your guys kids though.
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@JC said in NZ Politics:
I’m not encouraged by National’s dropping the ball on something as simple as arithmetic.
They're not going to get into power, but they could at least make Labour work for it. Reminds me of the Cunliffe/Goff years - opposition is really really tough. Incumbency is very powerful, and having the apparatus of the state around helps even further.
in other muppetry, it seems Treasury usually second someone into the Opposition leader's office (which makes a lot of sense) ... but Simon Bridges turned it down, so they are flying solo. I have little to no sympathy.
Underpinning all of this, is no one seems to want to talk about how they are actually going to get our economy moving again. as @JC said, sorry about our kids paying for this for a decade or more. It's damn scary.
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@JC Given their strategy is the strength of their team it's a minor miracle they are polling above the 5% threshold.
Robertson really does love trucking out the "Wouldn't have happened under Key or English" line to contrast the true strength of the current team vis-a-vis that of 08-17. Like comparing Henry's Blues to Umaga's.
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@nzzp TBF the greens are putting out a lot of policy- its just that they're irrelevant. ACT has a plan too. Cut welfare by 38 Billion and give a 38 Billion tax cut.
The open, transparent, caring and transformational government of Adern don't give two fucks about anything other than winning an election at which they have already promised three years of doing fuck all.
COVID really has been a godsend for Labour. If this election was being fought on how well they have delivered on their 2017 campaign promises Soimon would already be redecorating the ninth floor
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