Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
From memory most were projecting the biggest rise in unemployment early,
Hmm, I wasn't. The subsidy helped but was never going to be sustainable. The bleed of business funds / cashflow was going to take a while, and likewise layoffs. Having said that I am employing 2 new part time staff so there is still a money go around.
@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
our export partners are having their moments too...
Yeah they are. I'm more concerned about our import supply chain now. We don't make a lot of things here and people don't realise when we say no, you can't have it, it is because a lot of businesses overseas are shut down. We simply can't get the product. The stock is gone, which is what I meant by the economic lag. If we can't supply, people can't buy, and I will be laying off staff instead of hiring them.
So the doom unemployment numbers may still be correct. Let's hope not.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
From memory most were projecting the biggest rise in unemployment early,
Hmm, I wasn't. The subsidy helped but was never going to be sustainable. The bleed of business funds / cashflow was going to take a while, and likewise layoffs. Having said that I am employing 2 new part time staff so there is still a money go around.
A lot of the initial projections were made in the early days of Level 4, with broadly;
- No idea how long we'd be in Level 4 for
- Little idea what Levels 3 & 2 might look like
- I think an assumption that some businesses would lay off staff straight away. There was some evidence of that in tourism, hospitality, and in places heavily reliant on the international market (Queenstown). it just didn't continue on the scale expected.
- I think the domestic spending offset from 'no international holidays' wasn bigger than expected too. Plus the effect of people spending between five to seven weeks stuck at home and realising all the things they didn't like about their current house/gadgets they wanted etc....
I think it will still rise, but I think there'd have to be a severe shock again for unemployment to hit 12% plus. Though the way this year has gone, who knows what will be tomorrow!
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Pakistan men’s cricket team members test positive for COVID-19
Media release 26 November 2020 Six members of the Pakistan men’s cricket team have tested positive for COVID-19 at their managed isolation facility at the Chateau on the Park in Christchurch. The Ministry is confirming these positive test results outside of our usual cycle of announcing cases because of the high public interest in visiting sports teams. All members of the team returned a negative COVID-19 test and passed a symptom check before departing Lahore. Fifty-three members of the squad arrived in Christchurch on 24 November and were tested on day 1. These cases are the results of those tests. All cases are being moved to quarantine rooms within the facility. Members of the team will be tested a minimum of four times while in managed isolation. As a result of these positive tests, members of the team will not be able to leave the facility to train. Any training is conditional on a public health assessment, so at this time, no training will be able to take place. The Medical Officer of Health at Canterbury District Health Board has sent a letter to the squad’s management to be communicated to the whole team, reinforcing that all team members are required to stay in their rooms until advised otherwise. In addition, since their arrival, several team members have been seen on CCTV at the facility breaching managed isolation rules, despite clear, consistent and detailed communication of expected behaviours while in the facility. The team as a whole has been issued with a final warning. It’s important to note that all incidents of breaches occurred within the facility and there is no risk to the public. Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield said any breaches of managed isolation rules were taken very seriously. “It is a privilege to come to New Zealand to play sport, but in return teams must stick to the rules that are designed to keep COVID-19 out of our communities and keep our staff safe.” Air Commodore Darryn Webb, head of Managed Isolation and Quarantine, said there are robust processes in place in managed isolation facilities to respond to these events. “Our focus is on keeping the rest of the squad and our staff safe. For that reason, all other team members must remain in their rooms while investigations continue. This is in line with standard operating procedures at managed isolation facilities.”
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@Stargazer fuckers, allowed here to play sport and breach the iso rules.
Aussie rugby team managed to behave, yet Windies and now Pakistan cricketers breach rules.
Fuckers
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Stargazer fuckers, allowed here to play sport and breach the iso rules.
Aussie rugby team managed to behave, yet Windies and now Pakistan cricketers breach rules.
Fuckers
Absolutely. Fuck the final warning, the six should be getting the 3rd degree, telling them we are sending them home as soon as their isolation is done unless they can come up with a really good excuse. A fair trial followed by a good hangin’ that’s what’s needed.
fluffybunnies
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@taniwharugby @JC can you imagine your employer getting special dispensation for you to travel to do your job overseas, and you just ignore rules and breach quarantine? FFS people, I'm seriously pissed about this.
Pakistan series looks marginal now, and it shoudl be a forfeit not abandoned.
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The Windies breach was bad enough, and they tested negative a few times. But these Pakistani players can get fucking deported. Nothing is worth a spike in community transmission and another lockdown, least of all some arrogant stupid wankpuffins from overseas.
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However Shoaib Akhtar doesn’t agree with me.
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@JC What a fucking wankstain. Shoaib, you really think that we should let your Covid infected players just wander around, shut down our economy and ruin what we have already suffered for? Obey the rules and this wouldn't have happened.
Fuck off and take your team with you.
"“If I was in their place, I would have given a statement saying that if New Zealand Cricket aren't happy, we won't play them and will bring our team back and we won't play against you for five years.”
There will be some upset bookies.
”You are talking about Pakistan - the greatest country on the planet - so behave yourself and stop giving such statement."
HAhahahahahaahahahahahhaha. I've been to the greatest country on the planet too many times, the only plus when I did, was to lose weight for a few days.
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Fuck up Shoaib you cocksmoker
I would have thought a prerequisite for a great country was their country's national team being able to play, you know, in their home country.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Fuck up Shoaib you cocksmoker
I would have thought a prerequisite for a great country was their country's national team being able to play, you know, in their home country.
Exactly. They tried to blow up our team when we were there, now they are trying to infect our country with the dreaded lurgy. fluffybunnies.
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@JC said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Of course getting sent home is a bit a sore point for Shaoib. And he has form for not thinking rules apply to him.
Drugs, ball tampering, sledging / foul language, criticing the greatest country on the planet's cricket board. He certainly has some history as a complete knob.
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Yeah cool, let's send them back and cost NZ cricket millions of revenue.
Then, when they're gone we will still have 6 figured salary quarantine officials who can't do their fucken job!
Who is in charge of testing and quarantine? Why could they move about? Was there a plan before they arrived to test and isolate?
Pakis were dumb sure, but someone in NZ authority was dumber.
By all means kill the fox that got in but then you better look very carefully at the guard dog!
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think it would be fair to expect that international professional sportmen should be able to adhere to some simple rules.
Stay in your room isn't too bloody difficult.
Well you patently think wrong. As well as every other breach of quarantine, (the sole defence from external transmission) in the world.
The authorities come up with a plan to stop an existential threat to the country and then rely on the detainees to carry it out? That's a shit strategy right there.
The wording on every quarantine order clearly states detainment by the government through laws.This is primarily the fault of the detainers not the detainees.
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@Snowy i don't think they are stuck in their rooms, more they are to isolate in their bubbles...
@Siam they can fuck right off, we got pissed at kiwi morons too, we can be pissed at foreigners not abiding by rule, Pakistani cricket should be the ones coming down on them for being absolute fluffybunnies.
I'd be blaming the ABs if they did this overseas not someone else.
It isn't a prison either, there is some self responsibility given they know the rules