Coronavirus - Overall
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@victor-meldrew One for the grumpy old man thread. When you take a nice bottle and it doesn't get opened and instead you get given the latest Bulgarian Shiraz and your Grand Cru is never seen again
You and I must know some of the same people or were you giving me the heads up regarding @Victor-Meldrew ?
I'm too much of a gentleman to embarrass people by bringing wine they wouldn't really appreciate.
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@victor-meldrew One for the grumpy old man thread. When you take a nice bottle and it doesn't get opened and instead you get given the latest Bulgarian Shiraz and your Grand Cru is never seen again
You and I must know some of the same people or were you giving me the heads up regarding @Victor-Meldrew ?
I'm too much of a gentleman to embarrass people by bringing wine they wouldn't really appreciate.
Could be taken either way 😬
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@victor-meldrew One for the grumpy old man thread. When you take a nice bottle and it doesn't get opened and instead you get given the latest Bulgarian Shiraz and your Grand Cru is never seen again
You and I must know some of the same people or were you giving me the heads up regarding @Victor-Meldrew ?
I'm too much of a gentleman to embarrass people by bringing wine they wouldn't really appreciate.
Could be taken either way 😬
Each to his own, I guess. I just drink the stuff.
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Wow, what a 48 hours in Europe.
So, like falling dominoes, all the big countries halted the AZ jab on the back of some scare mongering reporting. UK keeps soldiering on. Then the all U-turn on it after the EMA declared it was safe. At the same time the politicising of their vaccine programme continued as the tough talk rambled on about sharing vaccines etc.
So basically all the achieved was a temporary pointless delay to their programme, and an whole lot of anxiety for people about taking the AZ jab.
100% completely pointless exercise with the sole purpose of politics.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Wow, what a 48 hours in Europe.
So, like falling dominoes, all the big countries halted the AZ jab on the back of some scare mongering reporting. UK keeps soldiering on. Then the all U-turn on it after the EMA declared it was safe. At the same time the politicising of their vaccine programme continued as the tough talk rambled on about sharing vaccines etc.
So basically all the achieved was a temporary pointless delay to their programme, and an whole lot of anxiety for people about taking the AZ jab.
100% completely pointless exercise with the sole purpose of politics.
I see France is going back into lock down too. I imagine that there are quite a few people happy that Europe isn't calling the shots in the UK now.
The French capital Paris is set to go into a month-long Covid lockdown as the country fears a third wave. Another 15 regions in the country will also be placed under the same measures from midnight on Friday. These measures will not be as strict as the previous lockdown, Prime Minister Jean Castex said, with people allowed to exercise outdoors. France has recorded more than 35,000 new cases within the past 24 hours. Mr Castex said a "third wave" of infections in the country was looking increasingly likely. The situation in Paris is particularly worrying with 1,200 people in intensive care there, more than at the peak of the second wave in November, Health Minister Olivier Veran said.
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@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Amusingly, a UK company acquired the go-to supplier of lipids for research and pharma, Avanti Polar Lipids (AL, USA), last year, so the UK government might be able to retaliate by blocking their supplies going to the EU for the Pfizer vaccine.
yeah, I read that as well. Although I suspect that the UK will point this out but not block to try and take the high road.
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@tewaio It does beggar belief. Go back a week or two when the EU were complaining about AZ supply issues and trying to imply it was a UK problem and you then find out that France had used only16% of the vaccines already supplied as at the end of February. It is such a cluster fuck and they’re all throwing as much shit as possible to detract from their massive and continued mistakes.
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@tewaio said in Coronavirus - Overall:
It is astonishing to me that the countries of Europe can unnecessarily cast doubt on the AZ vaccine for political purposes, then U turn, and simultaneously keep criticising AZ for not supplying them with the vaccine first
Covering their arses, but can't make up their mind which cheek to use.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
But as she was under 30, she'd be quite safe from Covid....
Yes, and being an actuary I'm guessing that she wasn't obese. I never even saw a fat one - they knew the odds (yes) even before covid.
I wonder what the average life expectancy of an actuary is...
Well, if it's not 110 it probably just seems that long.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Meanwhile, it would seem Pfizer roll out also very slow. Whilst there will have been production vicissitudes, that can only be down to an inadequately managed programme.
I had to look that up
Not a word I use but came to mind for some reason?!
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Covid-19 Vaccine Manufacturing in U.S. Races Ahead
Vaccine makers are expected to produce 132 million doses this month, nearly tripling last month’s figure, boosting vaccination drive
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@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Covid-19 Vaccine Manufacturing in U.S. Races Ahead
Vaccine makers are expected to produce 132 million doses this month, nearly tripling last month’s figure, boosting vaccination drive
the vaccination numbers over there are astounding. Did i read 1-in-6 adults are already fully vaccinated?
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This will upset the religious government worshippers but it's a year on and time to look at and examine data collected by credible scientists not connected to the religion.
A mature discussion, not carried out in a tv studio with no banners or headlines flashing across the screen. No mood music or dramatic narratives.
But, doubtless it will be debunked, pooh poohed, and derided as the wishes of nut cases and nutters. It will be scoffed, any mention of hearing it out will be met by censorship and the data labelled as insufficient, out of context or just plain fake.
Of course there will be no contradictory evidence or steadfast data that lockdowns are essential and in fact the only counter arguments will be "what ifs" and wrath of God projection models of mass deaths in the millions because of a disease that everyone knows has an age cap on it, and was never as much of an existential threat than prescription medicine, war in Syria or fast food.
Oh for the days when science triumphs over hyperbole ( you killed my grandmother!), sound bites and censorship. 🙂
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Covid-19 Vaccine Manufacturing in U.S. Races Ahead
Vaccine makers are expected to produce 132 million doses this month, nearly tripling last month’s figure, boosting vaccination drive
the vaccination numbers over there are astounding. Did i read 1-in-6 adults are already fully vaccinated?
Yeah, the UK and the US are streets ahead of other major countries. 50% of UK adults have has their first jab and 10% their second.
Say what you like about the current state of the US and its politics, but once their industry starts cranking up production of stuff, it's seriously impressive