Coronavirus - Overall
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@rapido said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Interesting how low per 100k India's numbers have been so far, and still are at the monet.
Hungary was pre-selected in that graph. So I looked up numbers in worldometers. According to the worldometers chart. Hungary currently has the worst global death rate so far at 2,799 deaths per million after 2 waves (almost). By my maths, if worse case and the entire world was to have Hungary's death rate that would result in 19.5 million deaths?
Not likely though, based on Hungary's population age pyramid compared to global.
The changes since 31 Jan are striking.
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Should note that Hungary are an 'accurate' counter. Maybe a bit 'too' accurate. Excess deaths match, or slightly over, official covid deaths (at Jan 31), according to Economist.
So, they aren't really the country with true highest death rate. That would be Peru, maybe guestimating around the 3500 to 4000 per 100k, if assume some other causes of excess need to be also included.
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Worth a listen, skip the first 35 minutes
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This article from about a month ago is on India's low covid death numbers in first wave and explores if or how many might be undercounted. The answer seems to be not really, yes, but not outrageously so.
Some interesting takeaways:
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over two out of every three registered deaths in India occur at home, and just 86% of all deaths are registered, meaning that 14 of every 100 deaths in India go entirely uncounted.(in normal times)
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Authors of study estimate under-reporting of COVID deaths varies, is in the range of 10-20% in big cities like Mumbai and Delhi
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Official nationwide data likely to have 2 year time lag.
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@rapido said in Coronavirus - Overall:
This article is on India's low covid death numbers in first wave and explores if or how many might be undercounted. The answer seems to be not really, yes, but not outrageously so.
Some interesting takeaways:
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over two out of every three registered deaths in India occur at home, and just 86% of all deaths are registered, meaning that 14 of every 100 deaths in India go entirely uncounted.
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Authors of study estimate under-reporting of COVID deaths varies, is in the range of 10-20% in big cities like Mumbai and Delhi
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Official nationwide data likely to have 2 year time lag.
I have an Indian work colleague who was telling us at lunch yesterday that parts of India is straight up fucked. There's no room in hospitals and it's taking over a week to get the dead cremated. Her uncle passed and the family had to store the body for 9 days.
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@antipodean god i love this new basic BBQ trend
yeah okay okay, i probably earned that...
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@antipodean can't see them making their emissions targets this year either.....
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean can't see them making their emissions targets this year either.....
haha savage!
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean can't see them making their emissions targets this year either.....
Appropriate.
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@antipodean that's so fucking average
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Poor article. Poor selection of concerns. Most common myths is a slur on questions. Questions are not myths.
Here are some of the most common "myths" free thinking people are yet to get decent answers for:
Why should children take a vaccine?
Which ages of children and babies?
Should pregnant women take vaccines?
If I've had covid and obviously recovered why take a vaccine?
You say it stops infection then why do world leaders including Biden, insist on masks and social distancing between those who have been vaccinated.Here you clearly state an argument for no more masks:
Claim 5: The only reason given to take the vaccine is that it might reduce symptomsThe Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine prevents death, severe disease, mild disease, and asymptomatic infection in most people who receive it. Taking the vaccine protects not only you, but also those around you and the general community. Claiming that the only reason to take it is that it might reduce symptoms is completely misleading. The Pfizer vaccine is highly effective in preventing Covid-19 and the spread of infection. The higher the proportion of people vaccinated, the faster we can get back to normality.
Claim 6: The vaccine has not been shown to stop you catching SARS-CoV-2 or passing it on to others
The vaccine has been shown to prevent you from catching SARS CoV-2 and passing it on. Claiming that it has not is false. Data from countries that have achieved high coverage are able to report the effects such as Israel and the UK.
Just more cookie cutter arse covering from authorities who over reacted before data and now are too arrogant to walk back their hysteria
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@siam said in Coronavirus - Overall:
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If I've had covid and obviously recovered why take a vaccine?
You say it stops infection then why do world leaders including Biden, insist on masks and social distancing between those who have been vaccinated....
My opinions;
I work with a guy that had Covid, and recently got the two vaccine shots. The advice he received was having Covid didn't mean he couldn't get it again. Evidence has shown that after the vaccine you get a more milder dose of the illness (seen scans of the lung damage of vaccinated and a normal sufferer).
We may also end up with yearly shots, similar to the flu to cover the worst strains. That's also why it's important to get to herd immunity quickly to strangle the disease before we get too many variations.
I'd imagine that mask wearing will move to the Asian model of wearing one if you feel sick, to help prevent spreading germs. I think this is a good thing to adopt. Look at the current stats of the normal flu. These sorts of behavior changes are becoming more important as the world population (and city densities) increase. Going to be more of this sort of illnesses.
That said, if we get to 80% vaccinated and we are still having draconian measures like lockdowns and closed borders, you'd have to wonder why. That will be the litmus test form me. Governments don't usually roll back power grabs, be interesting to see what the landscape is like in 2022.