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@junior Ministry of Health say tax rises are the most effective way of getting people to kick the habit. Apparently every time the excise increases about 25K Kiwi's give up.
I understand why people would be against it on principle though. I have a fair number of staff that smoke and all of them are those least able to afford it.
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@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
@junior Ministry of Health say tax rises are the most effective way of getting people to kick the habit. Apparently every time the excise increases about 25K Kiwi's give up.
I understand why people would be against it on principle though. I have a fair number of staff that smoke and all of them are those least able to afford it.
my wife used to smoke, but gave up a few years back. i thought it was expensive then. when my mate who has just quite told me how much he was paying i nearly coughed up a lung.
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@mariner4life I annualise it for the people here who smoke ($15K /yr for a pack a day habit) and they go holy fuck I could buy a house. Then they just swap to a cheaper brand.
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@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
they go holy fuck I could buy a house
So housing supply isn't the problem, it's people giving up smoking creating too much demand. We need to reduce tax on cigs. Encourage smoking. Shorter life expectancy, smaller population, less demand for housing. Who would have thought that the solution was right there?
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@snowy said in Housing hornets' nest:
@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
they go holy fuck I could buy a house
So housing supply isn't the problem, it's people giving up smoking creating too much demand. We need to reduce tax on cigs. Encourage smoking. Shorter life expectancy, smaller population, less demand for housing. Who would have thought that the solution was right there?
it's a different thread (possibly the sustainable one) but i wonder how much thought is given to the problems we will face from extended life expectancy? Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people when their super turns out to not be enough? How long will our kids live? What is the plan for the next generation?
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@mariner4life said in Housing hornets' nest:
@snowy said in Housing hornets' nest:
@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
they go holy fuck I could buy a house
So housing supply isn't the problem, it's people giving up smoking creating too much demand. We need to reduce tax on cigs. Encourage smoking. Shorter life expectancy, smaller population, less demand for housing. Who would have thought that the solution was right there?
it's a different thread (possibly the sustainable one) but i wonder how much thought is given to the problems we will face from extended life expectancy? Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people when their super turns out to not be enough? How long will our kids live? What is the plan for the next generation?
I went to a Singularity summit a few years ago. The bloke who ran their bio-genetics piece was doing a lot of work with Google and other tech companies on life expectancy. He reckoned if you make it to 2050 aged c. 70yrs old and in good nick, there is a decent chance you'll live forever...
😨😨😨
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@voodoo said in Housing hornets' nest:
@mariner4life said in Housing hornets' nest:
@snowy said in Housing hornets' nest:
@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
they go holy fuck I could buy a house
So housing supply isn't the problem, it's people giving up smoking creating too much demand. We need to reduce tax on cigs. Encourage smoking. Shorter life expectancy, smaller population, less demand for housing. Who would have thought that the solution was right there?
it's a different thread (possibly the sustainable one) but i wonder how much thought is given to the problems we will face from extended life expectancy? Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people when their super turns out to not be enough? How long will our kids live? What is the plan for the next generation?
I went to a Singularity summit a few years ago. The bloke who ran their bio-genetics piece was doing a lot of work with Google and other tech companies on life expectancy. He reckoned if you make it to 2050 aged c. 70yrs old and in good nick, there is a decent chance you'll live forever...
😨😨😨
I better bump up my super.
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@antipodean said in Housing hornets' nest:
@voodoo said in Housing hornets' nest:
@mariner4life said in Housing hornets' nest:
@snowy said in Housing hornets' nest:
@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
they go holy fuck I could buy a house
So housing supply isn't the problem, it's people giving up smoking creating too much demand. We need to reduce tax on cigs. Encourage smoking. Shorter life expectancy, smaller population, less demand for housing. Who would have thought that the solution was right there?
it's a different thread (possibly the sustainable one) but i wonder how much thought is given to the problems we will face from extended life expectancy? Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people when their super turns out to not be enough? How long will our kids live? What is the plan for the next generation?
I went to a Singularity summit a few years ago. The bloke who ran their bio-genetics piece was doing a lot of work with Google and other tech companies on life expectancy. He reckoned if you make it to 2050 aged c. 70yrs old and in good nick, there is a decent chance you'll live forever...
😨😨😨
I better bump up my super.
my kids better build a big house...
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@voodoo said in Housing hornets' nest:
@mariner4life said in Housing hornets' nest:
@snowy said in Housing hornets' nest:
@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
they go holy fuck I could buy a house
So housing supply isn't the problem, it's people giving up smoking creating too much demand. We need to reduce tax on cigs. Encourage smoking. Shorter life expectancy, smaller population, less demand for housing. Who would have thought that the solution was right there?
it's a different thread (possibly the sustainable one) but i wonder how much thought is given to the problems we will face from extended life expectancy? Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people when their super turns out to not be enough? How long will our kids live? What is the plan for the next generation?
I went to a Singularity summit a few years ago. The bloke who ran their bio-genetics piece was doing a lot of work with Google and other tech companies on life expectancy. He reckoned if you make it to 2050 aged c. 70yrs old and in good nick, there is a decent chance you'll live forever...
😨😨😨
I'm not sure that I would want to, but imagine the whingeing about old fucks owning investment housing then!
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@paekakboyz said in Housing hornets' nest:
@snowy lol too much rubbing and they'll catch fire!!
Unfortunate name for university group but in hindsight (appropriate, a lot of looking at asses went on) for most people that went there, it was to get a shag, not an education.
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@mariner4life said in Housing hornets' nest:
Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people
I'm genuinely grateful to you all ....
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@voodoo said in Housing hornets' nest:
@mariner4life said in Housing hornets' nest:
@snowy said in Housing hornets' nest:
@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
they go holy fuck I could buy a house
So housing supply isn't the problem, it's people giving up smoking creating too much demand. We need to reduce tax on cigs. Encourage smoking. Shorter life expectancy, smaller population, less demand for housing. Who would have thought that the solution was right there?
it's a different thread (possibly the sustainable one) but i wonder how much thought is given to the problems we will face from extended life expectancy? Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people when their super turns out to not be enough? How long will our kids live? What is the plan for the next generation?
I went to a Singularity summit a few years ago. The bloke who ran their bio-genetics piece was doing a lot of work with Google and other tech companies on life expectancy. He reckoned if you make it to 2050 aged c. 70yrs old and in good nick, there is a decent chance you'll live forever...
😨😨😨
I've said before that I heard this on the BBC in about 1983. Expert on saying if you live to 2000 you'll live to be 100 and if you make 2050 you'll live forever.
The Beeb never lies so I started planning my 10,000 year retirement then.
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@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
@mariner4life said in Housing hornets' nest:
Is the retirement age still viable if every person now loves another 25 years? Who pays the bill for those people
I'm genuinely grateful to you all ....
And yet you still work. You really should have bought some properties. Some say there are tax free gains to be had.
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@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
I've said before that I heard this on the BBC in about 1983. Expert on saying if you live to 2000 you'll live to be 100 and if you make 2050 you'll live forever.
Yeah those sorts of comments have been around for a while.
I'm not even old, but another year seems a reasonable aspiration. I don't like to set high goals, and fail to achieve them. Staying alive, as the Bee Gees would say. I might have to make some lifestyle changes which I am reluctant to. See the wine thread.
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@snowy I did aspire to retire at 55 but I realised two important things. I wasn't ready to retire and working to earn enough to retire that early was going to kill me.
So in the immortal words of George Best I spent a lot of money on booze, drugs and women. The rest I wasted.
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@dogmeat said in Housing hornets' nest:
@snowy I did aspire to retire at 55 but I realised two important things. I wasn't ready to retire and working to earn enough to retire that early was going to kill me.
So in the immortal words of George Best I spent a lot of money on booze, drugs and women. The rest I wasted.
One of my favourite quotes.
I did aim for 45, just a couple years late, but it doesn't really happen. Busier now than I have ever been. I'm not sure that anyone actually retires. If you are a property investor you also have two houses to look after (or more, but you get taxed). Yes, I am being flippant.
When does the government start paying me these days, instead of me paying them? I doubt that I will make it unless the "scientists" are correct about life expectancy.
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