Coronavirus - Australia
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
To go back to the fold: time to book my second shot. Only issue I had with the first one was a bit of pain for two days at the injection site and then subsequent bruising.
My second was booked in conjunction with my first.
Second Pfizer is shit for some people. My mate was laid up for 17 hours and was barely able to drive home from work.
My first jab made me a bit dopey, shouldn't have gone to work but I did and my dopey-ness entertained my co-workers, and yep my arm was bloody sore.
Have you had the urge to buy any Microsoft products today? 😀.
My first one is next week. I spoke to a few people who have been to Homebush and surprisingly all have said although queues long, it moves quickly and they’re out in about 25 mins.
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@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
To go back to the fold: time to book my second shot. Only issue I had with the first one was a bit of pain for two days at the injection site and then subsequent bruising.
My second was booked in conjunction with my first.
Second Pfizer is shit for some people. My mate was laid up for 17 hours and was barely able to drive home from work.
My first jab made me a bit dopey, shouldn't have gone to work but I did and my dopey-ness entertained my co-workers, and yep my arm was bloody sore.
Have you had the urge to buy any Microsoft products today? 😀.
My first one is next week. I spoke to a few people who have been to Homebush and surprisingly all have said although queues long, it moves quickly and they’re out in about 25 mins.
Funnily enough I just bought a new Macbook Air and iPhone (I prefer Apple stuff) as I'm heading over to NZ next week so can get the GST refunded.
I can do Excel spreadsheet calculations in my head now though, so that's all good.
That's good timewise at homebush, although the wait time after the jab is supposed to be around 20 minutes on it's own. Although I'd still much rather have had the two hour roundtrip at Royal Prince Alfred than trek out to homebush.
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
To go back to the fold: time to book my second shot. Only issue I had with the first one was a bit of pain for two days at the injection site and then subsequent bruising.
My second was booked in conjunction with my first.
The site at Blacktown Sports Park (along with their Mac Uni site) has now put up a banner stating explicitly they're only for Aged Care workers etc so, given the next nearest one is Homebush and Blacktown Hospital is no longer popping up, I'll wait.
Really? How many Aged Care workers are out that way (and aren't already jabbed)? Are they busing every Aged Care worker out there?
Stacks - lot of home care, facilities-based patients, and anyone in a hospital pretty much.
And now I can't register on the NSW Health site because they want me to nominate Dose 1 and Dose 2. Phone calls Monday methinks...
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@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
To go back to the fold: time to book my second shot. Only issue I had with the first one was a bit of pain for two days at the injection site and then subsequent bruising.
My second was booked in conjunction with my first.
The site at Blacktown Sports Park (along with their Mac Uni site) has now put up a banner stating explicitly they're only for Aged Care workers etc so, given the next nearest one is Homebush and Blacktown Hospital is no longer popping up, I'll wait.
Really? How many Aged Care workers are out that way (and aren't already jabbed)? Are they busing every Aged Care worker out there?
Stacks - lot of home care, facilities-based patients, and anyone in a hospital pretty much.
And now I can't register on the NSW Health site because they want me to nominate Dose 1 and Dose 2. Phone calls Monday methinks...
I guess I assumed (somewhat naively) that they would mostly have been done by now.
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This is the page the government provides for Covid vaccine safety information and is updated weekly.
https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-17-06-2021
I submit this for information about any wee niggly side effects you might have. They're called AEFI, - Adverse Effects Following Immunisation. I hope you won't feel any AEFIs but the government has supplied this information for everyone in the country. That's admirable
Here's a couple of excerpts:
COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 17-06-2021
Release date
Thursday, 17 June 2021
Previous reports
The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) closely monitors suspected side effects (also known as adverse events) from the use of COVID-19 vaccines. Importantly, adverse events reported to the TGA are often not caused by the vaccine itself. Learn more about causality.Learn about the TGA’s COVID-19 vaccine safety monitoring and reporting activities or report a suspected side effect.
Summary
The most frequently reported suspected side effects associated with Comirnaty (Pfizer) and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines continue to be events that were seen in the clinical trials, and are commonly experienced with vaccines generally.Twelve additional cases of blood clots with low blood platelets have been assessed as thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) likely to be linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine. The increase in the number of cases correlates with an increase in the number of doses of AstraZeneca vaccine administered during the reporting period.
This brings the total number of confirmed and probable TTS cases in Australia to 60. Seven of the 12 new cases occurred in individuals in aged between 50 and 59 years. When assessed using the United Kingdom (UK) case definition, three cases were confirmed and nine were deemed probable TTS.
Reported side effects for COVID-19 vaccines
Gathering reports of adverse events following immunisation (AEFI) is just the first step in determining whether or not the effect is related to the vaccine and whether a significant safety issue is involved. Learn more about how the TGA identifies and responds to safety issues.In the week of 7-13 June 2021, we received 2106 AEFI reports for COVID-19 vaccines.
To 13 June 2021, we received 303 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines.
By chance, some people will experience new illnesses or die from a pre-existing condition shortly after vaccination, especially if they are elderly. We review all deaths reported after vaccination and compare the expected natural death rates in a similar case group to observed death rates following immunisation to distinguish between possible side effects of the vaccines and coincidental events.
For reports of death other than TTS, our review of cases and analysis of reporting patterns does not suggest that the vaccine caused these deaths.
Blood clots are the most common. The website refers to them as TTS.
This week's numbers and stats ( there'sa table on the website but I'mshit at transferringsuch graphics, so here'sthe info in longhand):
Time to onset/diagnosis of TTS (blood clots) = 2 to 52 days, median 13 days following vaccination.
60 Australians diagnosed with TTS so far
Treated in ICU = 13 all up, 4 currently
Outcomes for the 60:
Discharged = 36
In Hospital = 22
Died = 2More people have died from the vaccine in 2021 than from the virus. Yes, that is a non nuanced, out of context, incomplete analysis yet, true statement. Grain of salt stuff, easily explained away. Except for the 2 people and their families. Similarly and curiously, the 302 who have died following vaccination are not held to the same standard as "died within 28 days of a positive PCR test", which is a covid death. There must be reasons for that.
I looked up this because dear old 74 year old mum got first jab last week and I'm monitoring her for symptoms. It appears the spike protein doesn't stay in the arm like other vaccines but moves around the body, hence reports of clots, heart inflammation, brain inflammation and other side effects. Pain in the lymph nodes seems common. Apparently all vaccine infected cells die after about 30 days so it's wise to be on the lookout for that time. As stated above, problems surface at a median rate of 13 days.
Here's the website again: https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-17-06-2021
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@rotated said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@rotated said in Coronavirus - Australia:
For someone who is lauded for being a political genius Morrison
Who would say such a thing? 😮
It would be churlish to not look at his preselection
It's funny you should bring that up. I wonder what this country would've looked like over the last year had Michael Towke not been smeared and the happy clapping fuckstick not awarded preselection.
Morrison likely would have run and won the Bradfield preselection instead of Paul Fletcher when Nelson resigned so in the net effect... not much difference.
Living in this an alternate reality where PM Shorten is ordering the vaccines - who honestly knows?
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So my jinx ability has continued as the bubble is paused for 72 hours and I was flying on Friday morning. Have changed flights to Saturday morning so hopefully it's only a minor pause.
Stink bro. Good luck. My BIL was scheduled to fly tmrw, that ain't happening.
Life still good here in QLD, I may never go home.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So my jinx ability has continued as the bubble is paused for 72 hours and I was flying on Friday morning. Have changed flights to Saturday morning so hopefully it's only a minor pause.
Stink bro. Good luck. My BIL was scheduled to fly tmrw, that ain't happening.
Life still good here in QLD, I may never go home.
AirNZ are pretty good about changing flights, they let me change twice today. Tried to get a flight earlier than Friday just in case, 20 minutes after that changed they put the pause in place, so I phoned up and changed to Saturday.
Have you gone full bogan?
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So my jinx ability has continued as the bubble is paused for 72 hours and I was flying on Friday morning. Have changed flights to Saturday morning so hopefully it's only a minor pause.
Stink bro. Good luck. My BIL was scheduled to fly tmrw, that ain't happening.
Life still good here in QLD, I may never go home.
AirNZ are pretty good about changing flights, they let me change twice today. Tried to get a flight earlier than Friday just in case, 20 minutes after that changed they put the pause in place, so I phoned up and changed to Saturday.
Have you gone full bogan?
Thats great mate. Probably reflective of flights not being that full given people still a bit hesitant to travel?
My inner bogan has never been far from the surface. Unfortunately my hair is more affro than bogan
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So my jinx ability has continued as the bubble is paused for 72 hours and I was flying on Friday morning. Have changed flights to Saturday morning so hopefully it's only a minor pause.
Stink bro. Good luck. My BIL was scheduled to fly tmrw, that ain't happening.
Life still good here in QLD, I may never go home.
AirNZ are pretty good about changing flights, they let me change twice today. Tried to get a flight earlier than Friday just in case, 20 minutes after that changed they put the pause in place, so I phoned up and changed to Saturday.
Have you gone full bogan?
Thats great mate. Probably reflective of flights not being that full given people still a bit hesitant to travel?
My inner bogan has never been far from the surface. Unfortunately my hair is more affro than bogan
I think you misspelt fortunately.
Some flights were full, tried to change to Wednesday and they were full, one of the Fridays were full, and the later Saturday was full. But we got on the 11:40am flight so that's a good time.
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“(So far) we haven’t been able to reach consensus on how borders are managed. It’s a mess,” Deakin University epidemiologist Professor Catherine Bennett told news.com.au.
“Every state response is different.
“How can it be that if all decisions are evidence based … (but) we are all doing it differently?
“It just means there’s different levels of risk tolerance.”
While Prof Bennett acknowledged there were different populations and challenges for each state, how authorities responded to travellers shouldn’t be different.
“The whole country has been left in turmoil at the moment — do we travel for school holidays or not?” she said.
“Some states relax restrictions sooner than others and you have no way of knowing what’s going to happen.
“I think that’s really difficult for people but also, we as experts can’t make sense of it either, and we can’t see how it relates to measurable risk in any consistent way.”
Prof Bennett pointed out that states like Queensland and Western Australia often introduced higher levels of restrictions for returning travellers than those actually set in states grappling with outbreaks, and some of these decisions were actually putting people at higher risk of getting covid.
Well if that doesn't tell you everything, nothing will. It's not a health response, it's a political one.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
“(So far) we haven’t been able to reach consensus on how borders are managed. It’s a mess,” Deakin University epidemiologist Professor Catherine Bennett told news.com.au.
“Every state response is different.
“How can it be that if all decisions are evidence based … (but) we are all doing it differently?
“It just means there’s different levels of risk tolerance.”
While Prof Bennett acknowledged there were different populations and challenges for each state, how authorities responded to travellers shouldn’t be different.
“The whole country has been left in turmoil at the moment — do we travel for school holidays or not?” she said.
“Some states relax restrictions sooner than others and you have no way of knowing what’s going to happen.
“I think that’s really difficult for people but also, we as experts can’t make sense of it either, and we can’t see how it relates to measurable risk in any consistent way.”
Prof Bennett pointed out that states like Queensland and Western Australia often introduced higher levels of restrictions for returning travellers than those actually set in states grappling with outbreaks, and some of these decisions were actually putting people at higher risk of getting covid.
Well if that doesn't tell you everything, nothing will. It's not a health response, it's a political one
Following the Mother Country
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@antipodean the part i found telling was ridiculous decisions like putting people in to hotel quarantine on ridiculously low risk, and by putting them in quarantine, actually increasing their risk of catching it
As an aside, the Qld Chief Health Officer has just been announced as the new Governor. Make of that what you will...
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@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Bloke I used to work with got on the Indian Pacific in Sydney middle of last week.
Three days later in Perth, he had to quarantine for 48 hours after the NSW cases popped up.
Ridiculous.
the God Emperor of WA does exactly what he wants.
did i read somewhere a story that the WA cops were accessing the data of COVID-tracing apps in their investigations?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Bloke I used to work with got on the Indian Pacific in Sydney middle of last week.
Three days later in Perth, he had to quarantine for 48 hours after the NSW cases popped up.
Ridiculous.
the God Emperor of WA does exactly what he wants.
did i read somewhere a story that the WA cops were accessing the data of COVID-tracing apps in their investigations?
I think a few of our state law enforcement departments would find that info VERY interesting.