Coronavirus - New Zealand
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Four close contacts of a Sydney man who tested positive for Covid-19 after spending the weekend in Wellington have returned negative results.
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From the media conference:
The case worked in a "healthcare setting" in Sydney that was near to the Bondi Junction where most recent Sydney cases originate. One of the cases identified in Sydney, had been treated in that healthcare setting. So there's a close epidemiological link.
The case had the first dose of the vaccine about 10 weeks ago, but not the second.
It's very fortunate that this case used the Covid Tracer App frequently during his visit to Wellington, and that the close contact he was with for most of the weekend, did so as well.
Of the 4 close contacts, 2 are in Palmerston North and 2 in Tauranga. They have been isolating since last night. They've all tested negative. The two in Tauranga had a far more fleeting interaction with the case and for a much shorter time.
There were 58 people - all considered close contacts - on the flight from Sydney to Wellington on Saturday morning.
By the way, I received this alert on my phone:
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@stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The two in Tauranga had a far more fleeting interaction with the case and for a much shorter time.
the worrying part is, they reckon the new variant could be passed simply by passing one another in the street
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It is still weird that if you look at the places of interest list they are still omitting the airport on the morning they flew out.
I was there that morning at it was very busy, especially around the check in/baggage drop area. Although Auckland has separated International and Domestic for some reason Wellington hasn't and the international waiting area (pumpkin thingy) isn't even open I don't think. The person is likely to have wandered the shops, waited in line for coffee etc for some time.
They say they are still going through CCTV to confirm where they went but surely they know when they checked in? -
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It is still weird that if you look at the places of interest list they are still omitting the airport on the morning they flew out.
I was there that morning at it was very busy, especially around the check in/baggage drop area. Although Auckland has separated International and Domestic for some reason Wellington hasn't and the international waiting area (pumpkin thingy) isn't even open I don't think. The person is likely to have wandered the shops, waited in line for coffee etc for some time.
They say they are still going through CCTV to confirm where they went but surely they know when they checked in?Incorrect. I flew out of Wellington to Brisbane two Thursdays ago. From memory, the international departure sub-terminal/lounge opened at 2pm for the afternoon flights - ours left at 3.40pm - which is pretty similar to pre-Covid.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The two in Tauranga had a far more fleeting interaction with the case and for a much shorter time.
the worrying part is, they reckon the new variant could be passed simply by passing one another in the street
Surely this doesn't pass as "science"?
Are we basically using the same level of scientific observation that we use when booboo goes to bed to get a wicket?πActually, don't answer that - I'm afraid of the answerπ
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
what else is there?
Gulp...π. We used to call it scientific enquiry using the scientific method ππ
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@siam ok, at this point, what else is there other than speculation?
Like one of the outbreaks here, I dont think they ever traced the source?
GUess an issue is, in NZ/Aus with such low numbers, they are able to do alot of work to try and trace sources, so when they cant find a source, is when wilder ideas come in I guess?
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@taniwharugby a paranoia free life?
Nah, I don't know mate. Each to their own is best.π
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam ok, at this point, what else is there other than speculation?
Like one of the outbreaks here, I dont think they ever traced the source?
GUess an issue is, in NZ/Aus with such low numbers, they are able to do alot of work to try and trace sources, so when they cant find a source, is when wilder ideas come in I guess?
Lots of money to be paid by scaring the public.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan easy to scare people in the world today, sadly something like this will bring out the worst in people too.
Yep, already has IMO. We really need a better standard of reporting (canβt call most of this stuff journalism). Needs a better business model.
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan easy to scare people in the world today, sadly something like this will bring out the worst in people too.
Yep, already has IMO. We really need a better standard of reporting (canβt call most of this stuff journalism). Needs a better business model.
I agree the press have a lot to answer for, but equally the public WANT this response. They want to keep up elimination, they want these lockdowns (provided the Govt keeps writing checks, the repayment of which is to be punted 1-2 generations down the road).
You only have to look at the election results of NZ, QLD, WA, and even VIC.
The political will to have any level of risk tolerance hasn't been there ever since they realised that flattening the curve was only the start of what little island nations can achieve medically and politically.
I remember asking the question about a year ago around here, as to whether we would continue to accept lockdowns for these "breakouts". Clearly the answer is yes. If this latest cluster happened anywhere other than NSW, there would be a lockdown already, and even there, it's likely to happen by end of week.
Just nuts.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
You only have to look at the election results of NZ, QLD, WA, and even VIC.
That assumes knowing the voters priorities. I'd suggest election results rely on many more variables than consenting to a very new and often stated temporary pandemic. There's at least voter's pre covid satisfaction and level of opposition as variables.
I'm reluctant to blame the citizens for the decisions of the last 14 months
I question the hypothesis that recent elections were referenda on covid. ( especially Victoria)
I do get your gist though mate. Looks bleak
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@voodoo i think the media will have you believe we are happy to go into lockdown over and over.
The quality of media is surely at an all time low, yet a time when so many are turning to it to keep them 'informed'
I still scan every day, but know so many don't.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo i think the media will have you believe we are happy to go into lockdown over and over.
The quality of media is surely at an all time low, yet a time when so many are turning to it to keep them 'informed'
I still scan every day, but know so many don't.
the question I ask people is 'do you trust the headlines you read'. Inevitably, I don't think you do - they have clickbaitted their way to being largely irrelevant.
It's a real pity, and I'd love to see some proper old fashioned journalism going on. RNZ are pretty good on non-political/cultural stories, but they struggle to see (or care about) their own inherent biases