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Is it fair to say Semour has pushed ACT left a bit in some ways? I know he came out as pro choice
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Well they aren’t socialists. They could easily be people with left wing views though
I think too many people equate left v right with big v small gov (Muldoon/Birch were big gov right wingers for instance)
Not everyone of the left wants the extension of government into every aspect of life. So the anti-pc/anti-woke leftists need somewhere to go
Seymour’s Act isn’t particularly right wing. Maybe on law and order, but that is largely about protecting property rights and not all aspects of policing etc
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@kirwan I don’t rate Collins. I think she’s a liability to the National Party. A National Party who unfortunately are a rabble of an opposition and are failing to hold the government to account
Pointing this out in a thread called NZ Politics doesn’t seem to me to be going off topic.
As for criticising the government for their COVID response I think you’ll find I’ve done my fair share
Then we are furiously agreeing. I also don’t rate Collins, and have been very disappointed in National since the grown ups retired.
That they can make traction against a government that makes weekly whopper mistakes is a big mark against them.
My complaint was I wasn’t wanting the 100th go around of Collins is shit, the content of shutting down parliament when easy options exist for it to continue, and attempts to suppress opposition to their policies is alarming.
All done with a huge smile and an empathic head nod.
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@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
Is it fair to say Semour has pushed ACT left a bit in some ways? I know he came out as pro choice
ACT was after all started by a Labour guy (and a Nat).. and starred a Mr Richard Prebble (briefly, well, 8 years)..
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@nostrildamus said in NZ Politics:
@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
Is it fair to say Semour has pushed ACT left a bit in some ways? I know he came out as pro choice
ACT was after all started by a Labour guy (and a Nat).. and starred a Mr Richard Prebble (briefly, well, 8 years)..
... and Roger Douglas.
Politics is ultimately circulat - and they were so far to the left of centre, they crossed over to the right.
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@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@nostrildamus said in NZ Politics:
@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
Is it fair to say Semour has pushed ACT left a bit in some ways? I know he came out as pro choice
ACT was after all started by a Labour guy (and a Nat).. and starred a Mr Richard Prebble (briefly, well, 8 years)..
... and Roger Douglas.
Politics is ultimately circulat - and they were so far to the left of centre, they crossed over to the right.
The labour guy /co-founder WAS Sir Roger Dougas (born in a state house, NZ's log cabin). If memory serves me correctly my old man told me he also played in the front row, like Winston Peters (that colossus of a man). But I don't imagine Sir Roger Douglas made many metres even if he charged for everything.
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Probably common knowledge but I find it ironic that my mate is carting shitloads of coal to Huntly Power Station from the Mount. This Coal coming from I think Australia and Indonesia. I hate to think of the carbon cost of digging up the coal, importing it via ship, trucking it long distance and then burning it. Doesn't really fit with the green image very well.
Any idea how govt plans to fix this?
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Interesting read in my opinion.
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A Shield Snorters judge has questioned the merits of the Kahukura drug rehab programme in the case of a Mob meth dealer.
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The Motor Industry Association (MIA) - the organisation that represents New Zealand's new-vehicle distributors - has withdrawn support for the Government's Clean Car Standard, following what it says are "nasty surprises" and an "appalling lack of understanding" in the introduction of the Land Transport (Clean Vehicle) Amendment Bill into the House. There is no obvious rationale and it seems it is a revenue gathering exercise for New Zealand to have targets that are tougher than other jurisdictions like Europe. New Zealand new vehicle importers parent companies are already making their production plan out to 2030 and these will be based on what Europe, Asia and Australia need, not what our government wants.
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According to this paywalled headline............
New Zealand's elimination strategy has made our country the envy of the world so far in the pandemic – and experts say there's little logic in abandoning it now.
Anyone got a peek behind the paywall to tell me -
- Which countries are envying NZ right now ?
- Who are these "experts" advocating continuance of the elimination strategy?
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@frank said in NZ Politics:
According to this paywalled headline............
New Zealand's elimination strategy has made our country the envy of the world so far in the pandemic – and experts say there's little logic in abandoning it now.
Anyone got a peek behind the paywall to tell me -
- Which countries are envying NZ right now ?
- Who are these "experts" advocating continuance of the elimination strategy?
I had a brief skim:
- No countries. Just them saying that we're doing so much better than other countries.
- Basically just the experts the media mention all the time other than Siouxsie.
Definitely wouldn't pay to read it.
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