Coronavirus - Overall
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@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate what a load of shit.
What exactly is shit about his/her rant?
Because if you follow the science as our illustrious leaders keep fucking yammering about, this is science fact not science fiction
This happens now, you get weighed, your doctor or nurse tells you to lose weight if you're fat. If you're type 2 diabetic, that happens every 3-6 months. They have dieticians and everything else available for free already. There's no need for public shaming, because there's plenty of private shaming instead.
That's without getting into the genetics of it, and that there are a stack of vulnerabilities besides obesity eg getting older/surviving cancer/being born with HIV/born with other conditions. Even if every fat bastard in the world got down to a decent BMI, and somehow had no other issues remaining from their time being fat, Covid would still cause major issues for a large enough part of the population to overrun health systems.
Obviously private shaming isn't working.
The number of people claiming genetics is the problem/reason is proportional to the number of Rolex watches stolen
VASTLY EXAGERRATED
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@mikethesnow and even if every fat bastard miraculously dropped to a healthy weight with no issues remaining from the obesity, Covid would still overrun health systems on all the other vulnerabilities.
AND THERE ARE A MILLION FUCKING STUDIES SAYING IT'S GENETICS.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow and even if every fat bastard miraculously dropped to a healthy weight with no issues remaining from the obesity, Covid would still overrun health systems on all the other vulnerabilities.
AND THERE ARE A MILLION FUCKING STUDIES SAYING IT'S GENETICS.
And we haven’t even talked about the big boned
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@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow and even if every fat bastard miraculously dropped to a healthy weight with no issues remaining from the obesity, Covid would still overrun health systems on all the other vulnerabilities.
AND THERE ARE A MILLION FUCKING STUDIES SAYING IT'S GENETICS.
So are you suggesting that nothing can be done because even if something could be done it wouldn’t matter?
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@godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow and even if every fat bastard miraculously dropped to a healthy weight with no issues remaining from the obesity, Covid would still overrun health systems on all the other vulnerabilities.
I'm not swayed on this one way or the other given I haven't seen the comorbidity of admissions, but you'd think it would be a wakeup call for the population. Apparently not.
AND THERE ARE A MILLION FUCKING STUDIES SAYING IT'S GENETICS.
I tend to believe the laws of thermodynamics personally.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The number of people claiming genetics is the problem/reason is proportional to the number of Rolex watches stolen
@JC is claiming it was a gift from @Bones . The Rolex, not the genetics.
It is interesting the different reactions people have. Would love to see how the saline vaccinated "reacted". A placebo control group of sorts (assuming it is true).
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@bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy define "gift"
He stole it but you left a note on the bedside table?
He stole it but there was a third person involved?
He stole it but there was goat involved? (not Richie or Dan)
He stole it but wrote the note himself? That could be the one.
Basically he stole it. Never trust an economist. Especially one that you have just shagged.
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Here in Japan, things are getting a bit dodgy as hospitals in Tokyo are running out of beds (mostly for those who are not vaxxed, and probably had the chance) whole there was some tainted Moderna shots from which two people have died (so far). And, I saw something this morning that they are wondering whether Delta has changed...
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@godder I'm going to give the genetics call a big fat nope.
While there is variability in peoples natural fat levels. Being obese at the rates in western society is not genetic and that is simply not debatable.
Obese people have resulted in 78% of hospitalizations in the USA according to one study.
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@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Being obese at the rates in western society is not genetic and that is simply not debatable.
Too many calories not enough speedwork.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Here in Japan, things are getting a bit dodgy as hospitals in Tokyo are running out of beds (mostly for those who are not vaxxed, and probably had the chance) whole there was some tainted Moderna shots from which two people have died (so far). And, I saw something this morning that they are wondering whether Delta has changed...
My single experience of the Tokyo medical system was very impressive. If you are struggling to keep up with the demand I shudder to think how things would go in NZ if we lost control. To say our system is thin is an understatement
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@mikethesnow someone may have already responded to this but my partners mother died during L3. Hospital was very understanding and allowed visitors in her last days just not as a group. When she did pass the entire family was allowed in. There was a defined route we had to take and then we were left with her for as long as we liked.
It was compassionate and sympathetic. Fortunately lockdown was relaxed before her funeral as trying to decide on 10 people to attend (3 children 6 grandchildren, 9 great and 1 great great plus husband partners friends etc) would have been a nightmare.
Sympathy and condolences @gt12
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Here in Japan, things are getting a bit dodgy as hospitals in Tokyo are running out of beds (mostly for those who are not vaxxed, and probably had the chance) whole there was some tainted Moderna shots from which two people have died (so far). And, I saw something this morning that they are wondering whether Delta has changed...
My single experience of the Tokyo medical system was very impressive. If you are struggling to keep up with the demand I shudder to think how things would go in NZ if we lost control. To say our system is thin is an understatement
One small scandal is that while general healthcare is very very good here, the number of ICU beds is actually really poor (by global standards) whilst still being a bit better than NZ, which is fucking embarassing.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Here in Japan, things are getting a bit dodgy as hospitals in Tokyo are running out of beds (mostly for those who are not vaxxed, and probably had the chance) whole there was some tainted Moderna shots from which two people have died (so far). And, I saw something this morning that they are wondering whether Delta has changed...
My single experience of the Tokyo medical system was very impressive. If you are struggling to keep up with the demand I shudder to think how things would go in NZ if we lost control. To say our system is thin is an understatement
One small scandal is that while general healthcare isvery very good here, the number of ICU beds is actually really poor (by global standards) whilst still being a bit better than NZ, which is fucking embarassing.
It is clearly an embarassment all over the developed world then
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Here in Japan, things are getting a bit dodgy as hospitals in Tokyo are running out of beds (mostly for those who are not vaxxed, and probably had the chance) whole there was some tainted Moderna shots from which two people have died (so far). And, I saw something this morning that they are wondering whether Delta has changed...
My single experience of the Tokyo medical system was very impressive. If you are struggling to keep up with the demand I shudder to think how things would go in NZ if we lost control. To say our system is thin is an understatement
One small scandal is that while general healthcare isvery very good here, the number of ICU beds is actually really poor (by global standards) whilst still being a bit better than NZ, which is fucking embarassing.
Yeah, but that was data from April 2020 - you're clearly forgetting that since then NZ flattened the curve and threw everything they had at building out their ICU capacity. We are probably top of the list now, right?
Right???
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Here in Japan, things are getting a bit dodgy as hospitals in Tokyo are running out of beds (mostly for those who are not vaxxed, and probably had the chance) whole there was some tainted Moderna shots from which two people have died (so far). And, I saw something this morning that they are wondering whether Delta has changed...
My single experience of the Tokyo medical system was very impressive. If you are struggling to keep up with the demand I shudder to think how things would go in NZ if we lost control. To say our system is thin is an understatement
One small scandal is that while general healthcare isvery very good here, the number of ICU beds is actually really poor (by global standards) whilst still being a bit better than NZ, which is fucking embarassing.
Yeah, but that was data from April 2020 - you're clearly forgetting that since then NZ flattened the curve and threw everything they had at building out their ICU capacity. We are probably top of the list now, right?
Right???
I’m sure that NZ went from 3.6 beds per 100,000 to 33.6 and took Germany’s crown. Nothing more than what we’d expect from the fantastic leader.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy define "gift"
He stole it but you left a note on the bedside table?
He stole it but there was a third person involved?
He stole it but there was goat involved? (not Richie or Dan)
He stole it but wrote the note himself? That could be the one.
Basically he stole it. Never trust an economist. Especially one that you have just shagged.
Shagged? Eww no. There’s none of that, just some light S&M. He’s a masochist. I’m a sadist, so I tell him I’m going to hurt him then don’t. Sneaky, huh?
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow someone may have already responded to this but my partners mother died during L3. Hospital was very understanding and allowed visitors in her last days just not as a group. When she did pass the entire family was allowed in. There was a defined route we had to take and then we were left with her for as long as we liked.
It was compassionate and sympathetic. Fortunately lockdown was relaxed before her funeral as trying to decide on 10 people to attend (3 children 6 grandchildren, 9 great and 1 great great plus husband partners friends etc) would have been a nightmare.
Sympathy and condolences @gt12
So good to read that - you know what I mean
Too many gone alone
Shameful