Coronavirus - Australia
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
What about Chairman Dan's latest?
Youse can now go for picnics! But you can't take your mask off to drink alcohol. But we've told the police not to enforce it.
Or shutting down transport into the city?
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and it's this feeling, very eloquently captured in this article, that the entire Qld tourism industry is fearing
i agree with so much of this, and empathise with a lot more
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I’m hearing that panic buying appears to be back in Melbourne. Costco stock being stretched and the aisles are absolutely packed with people. Hoping it may be because of school holidays starting and the weather being crap that it’s the only indoor place of novelty to take kids!
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@act-crusader really, that would be weird, i thought we were all just carrying on we were....although it was weird there was panic buying at the start of the current lockdown as i thought we'd shown it was unnecessary over the last year and a half
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so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
We currently have those rules in Sydney. The picnic rules are only for the Vaxxed. I doubt it's being enforced TBH. Most the Australians I saw yesterday while picnicking were unable to count to 5 and that didn't seem to be enforced.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
im fine with showing "papers", i honestly don't see it as being hugely different to vax passports when i travelled or needing to show your drivers licence or ID to prove your over 18 to get into a bar, cost of living in a society
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
im fine with showing "papers", i honestly don't see it as being hugely different to vax passports when i travelled or needed to show your drivers licence or ID to prove your over 18 to get into a bar, cost of living in a society
I wouldn't have had an issue showing my vax passport on my phone if asked yesterday.
Funnily, we actually realised that two of our five likely broke the restrictions to get to our picnic as they would have had to slightly drive out of their 5km to get to our spot, which is in the 5km. They're in a funny position in that most of their 5km is water.
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
im fine with showing "papers", i honestly don't see it as being hugely different to vax passports when i travelled or needing to show your drivers licence or ID to prove your over 18 to get into a bar, cost of living in a society
big fucking difference between travelling to another country, and watching a kids soccer game with 50 other parents.
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
im fine with showing "papers", i honestly don't see it as being hugely different to vax passports when i travelled or needed to show your drivers licence or ID to prove your over 18 to get into a bar, cost of living in a society
I wouldn't have had an issue showing my vax passport on my phone if asked yesterday.
Funnily, we actually realised that two of our five likely broke the restrictions to get to our picnic as they would have had to slightly drive out of their 5km to get to our spot, which is in the 5km. They're in a funny position in that most of their 5km is water.
isn't it 10km now?
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
im fine with showing "papers", i honestly don't see it as being hugely different to vax passports when i travelled or needing to show your drivers licence or ID to prove your over 18 to get into a bar, cost of living in a society
big fucking difference between travelling to another country, and watching a kids soccer game with 50 other parents.
they're both choices, one may cost more sure but its a choice to have children and then its a choice for them to play sport etc etc
should you not have to pay the dues/fees for that sport if you don't want to? no, there's a cost for that choice, and now being vaxxed is the cost to do that too
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
but its a choice to have children and then its a choice for them to play sport etc etc
the fuck?
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we have to be arguing something completely different, because i have no idea what you are trying to say
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
isn't it 10km now?
Not that I know of ... unless it happened today?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
so, philosophical discussion
i was reading teh Vic "roadmap" and there are very much different rules for vacced and unvacced
my question is, how do you feel about those? Do you think it is fair on the police, let alone hospo workers etc, to have to identify which group people belong to?
I'm as pro-vax as you can get, but, having these rules where you can have a shitload of vacced people, or 5 non-vacced is placing a lot of pressure on a few people.
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
im fine with showing "papers", i honestly don't see it as being hugely different to vax passports when i travelled or needing to show your drivers licence or ID to prove your over 18 to get into a bar, cost of living in a society
big fucking difference between travelling to another country, and watching a kids soccer game with 50 other parents.
In regards to the philisophical piece, I dont have a problem either showing proof. More of a "pick my battles" type of approach to keeping my own stress levels down. You're right, there is a big difference between the two engagements you highlight, but if its only short term until we find a new normal then I am happy to oblige. Even showing proof to go to a restaurant etc gives me more freedom than I have now lol
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
isn't it 10km now?
Not that I know of ... unless it happened today?
unless its different in VIC, certainly NSW LGA's its still 5km
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
isn't it 10km now?
Not that I know of ... unless it happened today?
sorry, had my Vic hat on, i think its 10km in vic now
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
How do you feel about being in public in a group of say 20 people, and having to show your "papers" to the cops on demand?
Less than pleased. For the crime of being in public, no reasonable belief required. So what emergency is next?
Or for that matter how long will these restrictions/ requirements last? How are police able to determine whose inability to be vaccinated is real?
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I just heard that in VIC, even post-80%, they'll cap people in your home at 10.
Surely my friend must have misheard, it can't be possible.
By Christmas Day, up to 30 visitors will be allowed to the home, if the 80 per cent full vaccination target is met, under the state's five-step plan. - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-19/victoria-roadmap-out-of-covid-lockdown-released-dan-andrews/100474302
10, 30 it doesn't matter. That's fucking ludicrous that at 80% of the population completely vaccinated, the government still feels entitled to tell you how many people you can have in your house.
To think we used to laugh at North Korea.