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<p>Getting back to Little after turning up to an overcrowded house last week that wasn't overcrowded you'd think he would have put more effort into last nights speech . First he claims WS are all $50 a week worse off ( with no evidence of how he came to this, low petrol prices , interest rates and inflation have me scratching my head about that claim) then because he's so worried about it he's going to raise taxes? How can you have more money while paying more in tax?<br><br>
Also good luck selling the idea to Aucklanders that their property prices need to fall , the greens are economic Neanderthals but backtracked on that bloody quickly when the material girl ranted about how she wanted to see property prices fall live on tv.</p>
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<p>To be fair, any anti Labour person isn't going to see anything good in his speech and anything that is good is going to be put in a light that it is bad.</p>
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<p>He said he would stand and resign if national lost.<br>
I think he wants to match or beat Holyoakes record .</p>
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<p>Where did you hear that? I've been trying to find out whether he will stand again.</p> -
<p>Little is a complete idiot.</p>
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<p>When he campaigned to be leader there was talk of Labour revamping itself to be more relevant to middle NZ and how they had realised that their old base of blue collar workers were now self-employed business people and associated far more with the parties that were business orientated.</p>
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<p>They have done none of that at all. The Unions still call the shots and the sooner someone starts a new party that marginalises Labour and the Greens into providing representation just for their core of Unions and Environmentalists the better.</p>
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To be fair, any anti Labour person isn't going to see anything good in his speech and anything that is good is going to be put in a light that it is bad.<br><br><br><br><br>
Where did you hear that? I've been trying to find out whether he will stand again.</p></blockquote>
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Claire Trevett is fairly pro labour, she was at the speech and here's her take <a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11643048">http://m.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11643048</a><br><br>
He said quite a while ago he'd resign if he lost an election , he hasnt said anything about not standing . National would be pretty screwed without him. -
<p>but more screwed than a Little-lead Labour?</p>
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He said quite a while ago he'd resign if he lost an election , he hasnt said anything about not standing . National would be pretty screwed without him.</p>
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<p>Before the last election there was a certian amount surprise in some circles that he would do a third term as he had kiven clues that two was enough. I just assumed that if that was the case that 4 would certainly be one too many for him.</p>
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<p>Good on him though as I feel that he would only do this if he thought he could give three years dedication again. For someone with so much money, it must be one of the suckiest jobs he has had to do but he obviously enjoys it for the most</p> -
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<p>Where did you hear that? I've been trying to find out whether he will stand again.</p>
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<p>I'm meeting with him Friday :whistle: <span style="font-size:8px;">(ME & A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OTHERS) </span>l'lI ​ask</p> -
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<p>I'm meeting with him Friday :whistle: <span style="font-size:8px;">(ME & A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OTHERS) </span>l'lI ​ask</p>
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I'm meeting with him Friday :whistle: <span style="font-size:8px;">(ME & A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OTHERS) </span>l'lI ​ask</p></blockquote>
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<p>Can you ask how Max is? There hasn't been an article for a while now and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's a bit worried.</p>
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<p>I'm just hoping Hilary is able to work out here last hew days with as little stress as possible.</p>
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<p>So who else didn't bother voting last election ?</p> -
<p>I always vote.</p>
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I didn't last time. Choosing one guy cos he's marginally less of a dick than the other isn't enough to earn my vote and I certainly wasn't alone in my thinking on that one according to the stats.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Well it's pretty much always between two people who are dicks.</p>
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<p>Agreed but Key and Cunliffe were next level so I didn't even bother.</p>
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<p>I suspect that is only mildly better than voting Hillary or Trump....</p> -
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<p>Can you ask how Max is? There hasn't been an article for a while now and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's a bit worried.</p>
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<p>Agreed but Key and Cunliffe were next level so I didn't even bother.</p>
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<p>Problem was that it Key vs Cunliffe/Winston/Dotcom/Harawira/Harre and assorted others.</p>
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<p>Basically the Ace of fluffybunnies versus a Full House! :)</p>
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