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As an aside, what do you put down as you're ethnicity on public forms?
(I tick the right box if it's medical, but otherwise it's "Other" and Pacific islander)
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
'As a public body we take cognisance of changes in society around how such questions may be asked without discrimination and have a duty to promote inclusiveness – therefore all donors are now asked the same questions.’
That's a genuinely stupid justification for insisting a man in his 60s answers if he's pregnant. What's next, 12 year old boys if they're going through menopause?
Nobody asked him if he was pregnant though, they just gave him a form and he refused to fill it out.
Perhaps you should've read the article. It's quite clear he was required to answer the question.
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@MajorRage said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib maybe just an older fella whose had a gutful of the world changing for the stupider whose line was crossed?
It’s one thing to refuse to answer it. But its another for the medical team to refuse the blood, a cause which helps everybody, because he refused to answer.
That’s where my disdain sits. When did this shit over rule common sense?
A 5ml donation of common sense would have avoided this whole absurd story.
It's a blood donation form. Fill in the form, then donate blood. The only person not showing common sense is some old duffer who refused to fill in the form, because he wanted to make a ridiculous point. Sure, some of the questions on the form aren't applicable to you. Answer it anyway, we've all had medical forms asking the same thing and it's not a big deal.
The staff don't have time for discussions with outrage junkie who wants to find a reason to be offended. What if everyone said "I'm not filling that in, you can tell from looking at me if I'm male / female" / "do I look under 18 to you?" . Fill in the form, or don't and fuck off, simple.
And then, to cap it all, he goes and calls a reporter and share this faux-outrage madness with the world.
Common sense is truly in short supply.
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Maybe it's recently become a sore point because he's realised he's passed child bearing age.
Maybe he finds it offensive, as a male, to be asked if he's pregnant? - in the same way a pregnant lesbian would be offended when asked if her lesbian partner's penis impregnated her.
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@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
'As a public body we take cognisance of changes in society around how such questions may be asked without discrimination and have a duty to promote inclusiveness – therefore all donors are now asked the same questions.’
That's a genuinely stupid justification for insisting a man in his 60s answers if he's pregnant. What's next, 12 year old boys if they're going through menopause?
Nobody asked him if he was pregnant though, they just gave him a form and he refused to fill it out.
Perhaps you should've read the article. It's quite clear he was required to answer the question.
I suggest you read the article. It's quite clear he was asked to fill in a form.
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
A 5ml donation of common sense would have avoided this whole absurd story.
Sadly lacking from the people who wrote the form and the "inclusiveness" policy
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
'As a public body we take cognisance of changes in society around how such questions may be asked without discrimination and have a duty to promote inclusiveness – therefore all donors are now asked the same questions.’
That's a genuinely stupid justification for insisting a man in his 60s answers if he's pregnant. What's next, 12 year old boys if they're going through menopause?
Nobody asked him if he was pregnant though, they just gave him a form and he refused to fill it out.
Perhaps you should've read the article. It's quite clear he was required to answer the question.
I suggest you read the article. It's quite clear he was asked to fill in a form.
They insisted he answer the question on the form. This isn't difficult to grasp.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Maybe it's recently become a sore point because he's realised he's passed child bearing age.
Maybe he finds it offensive, as a male, to be asked if he's pregnant? - in the same way a pregnant lesbian would be offended when asked if her lesbian partner's penis impregnated her.
Anyone who's ever been for an x-ray or similar has had to fill in a form asking if there's any possibility that they're pregnant. Most of us here probably have, and I doubt anyone threw a tanty over it.
If you get offended by a generic medical form that then you've got some fairly significant issues.
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@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
'As a public body we take cognisance of changes in society around how such questions may be asked without discrimination and have a duty to promote inclusiveness – therefore all donors are now asked the same questions.’
That's a genuinely stupid justification for insisting a man in his 60s answers if he's pregnant. What's next, 12 year old boys if they're going through menopause?
Nobody asked him if he was pregnant though, they just gave him a form and he refused to fill it out.
Perhaps you should've read the article. It's quite clear he was required to answer the question.
I suggest you read the article. It's quite clear he was asked to fill in a form.
They insisted he answer the question on the form. This isn't difficult to grasp.
Nice meme, make it your avatar.
Yes, just as I said they insisted he fill in the form, which included that question. He refused. Fuck knows why anyone refuse to fill in a bland generic question on a generic form of the type that has been there for decades, but there you go. Then he walked off. OK. Weird.
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Nobody asked him if he was pregnant though
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Yes, just as I said they insisted he fill in the form, which included that question.
Compare and contrast.
Thanks for playing child.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
A 5ml donation of common sense would have avoided this whole absurd story.
Sadly lacking from the people who wrote the form and the "inclusiveness" policy
In what way is having a question asking if you're pregnant on a medical form a lack of common sense? Maybe if it was a form specifically for 66 year old men, but it wasn't, it was for everyone.
Do you think they should have separate forms for men and women (and then subforms for pre-and post- menopause women etc.) even though there's no medical reason, just in case it offends some snowflake duffer. Or maybe a bit of, y'know, common sense would suggest that you keep it simple and have one form.
@antipodean said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Nobody asked him if he was pregnant though
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Yes, just as I said they insisted he fill in the form, which included that question.
Compare and contrast.
Thanks for playing child.
The lengths people will go to to be offended never fails to amaze me
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@Victor-Meldrew said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Attention seeking moron
Obviously a bigot
Nah, just a common-or-garden moron I'd say. Totally on the side of the blood transfusion staff on this one, this guy was just being a dick to get some attention. A medical form asking if you're pregnant is about as inoffensive as you can get, but this numpty decideds to pretend he's shocked by the question, refuses to fill it in and probably makes a bloody scene about it. And then he calls a reporter so he can have a whinge about how outraged he is about the whole thing. I'm sure the nurses taking blood have better things to do than deal with this kind of idiot. Fuck off Leslie, and no you can't have a cup of tea and a biscuit before you go.
Do you think the question, asking a male if he was pregbant, was fair?
Seriously? The question is obviously ridiculously provocative and intended to cause offense.
I think you should aim your indignance at the idiots who asked the question.
It's part of the bullshit trans dogma that needs to be called out and stopped.
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@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@Victor-Meldrew said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Attention seeking moron
Obviously a bigot
Nah, just a common-or-garden moron I'd say. Totally on the side of the blood transfusion staff on this one, this guy was just being a dick to get some attention. A medical form asking if you're pregnant is about as inoffensive as you can get, but this numpty decideds to pretend he's shocked by the question, refuses to fill it in and probably makes a bloody scene about it. And then he calls a reporter so he can have a whinge about how outraged he is about the whole thing. I'm sure the nurses taking blood have better things to do than deal with this kind of idiot. Fuck off Leslie, and no you can't have a cup of tea and a biscuit before you go.
Do you think the question, asking a male if he was pregbant, was fair?
Seriously? The question is obviously ridiculously provocative and intended to cause offense.
I think you should aim your indignance at the idiots who asked the question.
It's part of the bullshit trans dogma that needs to be called out and stopped.
Have I fallen through a wormhole into the land of perpertual outrage?
I went for an x-ray not long ago, there was a form that asked if I was pregnant. Do you reckon that was deliberately provocative too? FFS
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Anyone who's ever been for an x-ray or similar has had to fill in a form asking if there's any possibility that they're pregnant.
Not in my experience - ever. If I were asked, I'd seriously question the intelligence & competence of the morons posing as clinical staff.
Fuck knows why anyone refuse to fill in a bland generic question on a generic form of the type that has been there for decades,
Read the article: "‘There is always a form to fill in and that’s fine – they tend to ask about medical conditions or diseases – and clearly that’s because the blood needs to be safe. This time around, there was a question I hadn’t seen before: ‘Are you pregnant, or have you been in the last six months?’ which required a yes or no answer."
but there you go. Then he walked off. OK. Weird.
Obviously because he found being asked that question fucking offensive.
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Have I fallen through a wormhole into the land of perpertual outrage?
No, but the folks at the Scottish Blood Transfusion Service obviously have.
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@Victor-Meldrew said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Attention seeking moron
Obviously a bigot
Nah, just a common-or-garden moron I'd say. Totally on the side of the blood transfusion staff on this one, this guy was just being a dick to get some attention. A medical form asking if you're pregnant is about as inoffensive as you can get, but this numpty decideds to pretend he's shocked by the question, refuses to fill it in and probably makes a bloody scene about it. And then he calls a reporter so he can have a whinge about how outraged he is about the whole thing. I'm sure the nurses taking blood have better things to do than deal with this kind of idiot. Fuck off Leslie, and no you can't have a cup of tea and a biscuit before you go.
Do you think the question, asking a male if he was pregbant, was fair?
Seriously? The question is obviously ridiculously provocative and intended to cause offense.
I think you should aim your indignance at the idiots who asked the question.
It's part of the bullshit trans dogma that needs to be called out and stopped.
Have I fallen through a wormhole into the land of perpertual outrage?
I went for an x-ray not long ago, there was a form that asked if I was pregnant. Do you reckon that was deliberately provocative too? FFS
Actually, I'll back down here. I reckon I've filled out forms (xray, blood donation) asking if I'm preggers (I wasn't).
As you were.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Anyone who's ever been for an x-ray or similar has had to fill in a form asking if there's any possibility that they're pregnant.
Not in my experience - ever. If I were asked, I'd seriously question the intelligence & competence of the morons posing as clinical staff.
Fuck knows why anyone refuse to fill in a bland generic question on a generic form of the type that has been there for decades,
Read the article: "‘There is always a form to fill in and that’s fine – they tend to ask about medical conditions or diseases – and clearly that’s because the blood needs to be safe. This time around, there was a question I hadn’t seen before: ‘Are you pregnant, or have you been in the last six months?’ which required a yes or no answer."
Maybe it's been there for years, it's the kind of utterly innocuous question that nobody would remember, unless they were on a mission to be outraged.
But that's not the point. The point is that they have a generic form that everyone is asked to fill in, and he decided to make a scene because it wasn't tailored to him personally.
If I've missed something and this is a form specifically for men, in which case yeah I'd agree with him. But I don't think that's what's going on here.
but there you go. Then he walked off. OK. Weird.
Obviously because he found being asked that question fucking offensive.
Then he is really fucking weird. You've almost certainly had to fill in a form with that question on it, were you offended? Did you flounce off?
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@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
@Victor-Meldrew said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Attention seeking moron
Obviously a bigot
Nah, just a common-or-garden moron I'd say. Totally on the side of the blood transfusion staff on this one, this guy was just being a dick to get some attention. A medical form asking if you're pregnant is about as inoffensive as you can get, but this numpty decideds to pretend he's shocked by the question, refuses to fill it in and probably makes a bloody scene about it. And then he calls a reporter so he can have a whinge about how outraged he is about the whole thing. I'm sure the nurses taking blood have better things to do than deal with this kind of idiot. Fuck off Leslie, and no you can't have a cup of tea and a biscuit before you go.
Do you think the question, asking a male if he was pregbant, was fair?
Seriously? The question is obviously ridiculously provocative and intended to cause offense.
I think you should aim your indignance at the idiots who asked the question.
It's part of the bullshit trans dogma that needs to be called out and stopped.
Have I fallen through a wormhole into the land of perpertual outrage?
I went for an x-ray not long ago, there was a form that asked if I was pregnant. Do you reckon that was deliberately provocative too? FFS
Actually, I'll back down here. I reckon I've filled out forms (xray, blood donation) asking if I'm preggeramams (I wasn't).
As you were.
respect for that
@booboo said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
Stil ... the whole pregnant man thing needs some serious readdressing
Yeah, think that's probably what this guy was thinking, but totally misplaced IMO
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@gibbon-rib said in F off with the damn PC Brigade:
In what way is having a question asking if you're pregnant on a medical form a lack of common sense?
It's not. Being required to answer the question is.
Maybe if it was a form specifically for 66 year old men, but it wasn't, it was for everyone.
Do you think they should have separate forms for men and women (and then subforms for pre-and post- menopause women etc.) even though there's no medical reason, just in case it offends some snowflake duffer. Or maybe a bit of, y'know, common sense would suggest that you keep it simple and have one form.
Again, it's got sod all to do with the questions on the form. It's the process around the form which demands an answer.
F off with the damn PC Brigade