Planes
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@Paekakboyz said in Planes:
On an absolute tangent one of the gamer/youtube streamers I follow has been roped into doing a 9/11 debunk anti-conspiracy steam.
He happened to be arguing with some conspiracy folks about the viability of the hijackers flying the planes after takeoff and what degree of accuracy v training they had. He was coming at it where the most demanding elements are takeoff, navigating (pinging or checking routes, or something?) then landing. So he was pushing back against the tinfoil crew about this part of the conspiracy stuff.
He also mentioned quite an old story from Canada where a guy with no formal training got airborne in a fairly big plane and managed to fly around before crashing. Seemed he'd learnt stuff from simulators only.
Obviously the model of plane must be a huge factor - as there are a bunch of stories of inexperienced folk landing smaller planes.
This is def not a rabbit hole post btw, just wanted to check that thinking with actual (female Polish) pilots
SIms are pretty accurate, and I am pretty sure the hijackers did some flying training too. Certainly not that tricky once airborne
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The thing that surprised me about Sims is my bro is sitting at a simulator in Singapore practicing take offs, landings and emergency drills out of Dairy Flat.
I get it's just a database but didn't think they would have some bumfuck aerodrome (and landscape) just north of Auckland.
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@dogmeat I wonder how much stuff like google maps has played into that. Lots of games and apps just plug into all this data which is around now, whereas years ago it would have been a much bigger deal to map all these tiny airfields and stuff. I know with the virtual cycling you can ride all sorts of courses and roads, not sure if the golf software is still limited to the famous venues or there are heaps of other venues you can play.
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@Paekakboyz said in Planes:
@dogmeat I wonder how much stuff like google maps has played into that. Lots of games and apps just plug into all this data which is around now, whereas years ago it would have been a much bigger deal to map all these tiny airfields and stuff. I know with the virtual cycling you can ride all sorts of courses and roads, not sure if the golf software is still limited to the famous venues or there are heaps of other venues you can play.
Microsoft Flight Simulator uses it's own map software to real time map the world, you can mod it to use the better Google maps. MS and modders also release specific areas/airports that are upscaled. It is pretty amazing. Nothing like that was around in 911 though, but cockpits were realistic.
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@Machpants my flying was limited to GTA games
And it can be a lot of effort without cheat codes to get a plane. In the game I mean!
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Ex Israeli F-16s operated by private company. (13 odd minutes)
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@mantissanet said in Planes:
Ex Israeli F-16s operated by private company. (13 odd minutes)
Love they're still using their A4 sticks
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Assuming thats original 70s flight control systems? Avionics upgrade looks amazing👌🏻
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@mantissanet said in Planes:
Assuming thats original 70s flight control systems? Avionics upgrade looks amazing👌🏻
Yeah looks similar to what the RNZAF would've got
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Saw one of these flying quite slowly from the train near Settle in Yorkshire.
Not a clue what it was doing there, but Menwith Hill is nearby
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