Musk & Twitter
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@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
I understand numbers have actually increased since Musk took over. All the crap about how Twitter is going to crash was so ridiculous, and written by people that obviously don't know the first thing about tech, they just hate Musk and want him to fail. Cutting out the fat of tech departments is probably a worthwhile exercise for a lot of companies, there are so many talkers and so few doers these days in the world of Agile.
Record usuage, record logged in users, handling the World Cup load fine (20,000 tweets per second).
The risk at the moment is they do appear to be changing alot, so the engineers that remain have to be good.
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@NTA said in Musk & Twitter:
@TeWaio said in Musk & Twitter:
Musk looks to have played a blinder here. Fired 7950, kept 50, platform still works. Tech company jobs really must be "daycare for adults"
There's a bit of that - particularly UX designers of whom nobody needs more than a couple and marketing people who aren't required at all
But the systems that run the platform are designed to be fairly robust, and only need people to intervene when something goes wrong.
Security in terms of platform uptime, as well as the content moderation, is probably where the meat of the issue lies.
Any enhancements to code or maintaining libraries that get updated etc. is probably where the critical stuff happens.
Twitter has also laid off less than Meta (11,000) and many other tech companies over the past few weeks. There are significant layoffs going on at the moment in the tech industry.
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@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
Twitter has also laid off less than Meta (11,000) and many other tech companies over the past few weeks. There are significant layoffs going on at the moment in the tech industry.
Meta had 10 times the number of employees tho, so not exactly apples with apples.
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@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
I understand numbers have actually increased since Musk took over. All the crap about how Twitter is going to crash was so ridiculous, and written by people that obviously don't know the first thing about tech, they just hate Musk and want him to fail. Cutting out the fat of tech departments is probably a worthwhile exercise for a lot of companies, there are so many talkers and so few doers these days in the world of Agile.
Record usuage, record logged in users, handling the World Cup load fine (20,000 tweets per second).
The risk at the moment is they do appear to be changing alot, so the engineers that remain have to be good.
Yeah, change is the biggest risk, I probably would have put a restriction in place until they have more people on board, though that's clearly not the way Elon thinks!
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@NTA said in Musk & Twitter:
@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
Twitter has also laid off less than Meta (11,000) and many other tech companies over the past few weeks. There are significant layoffs going on at the moment in the tech industry.
Meta had 10 times the number of employees tho, so not exactly apples with apples.
Yes, but multiple companies laying off thousands of people is a clear trend to cut staff costs.
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@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
@NTA said in Musk & Twitter:
@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
Twitter has also laid off less than Meta (11,000) and many other tech companies over the past few weeks. There are significant layoffs going on at the moment in the tech industry.
Meta had 10 times the number of employees tho, so not exactly apples with apples.
Yes, but multiple companies laying off thousands of people is a clear trend to cut staff costs.
I thought Meta/Facebook had particular issues?
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@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
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@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
There's a lot of political stuff, too. I heard him described by a radio presenter as a terrible businessman, and literally laughed out loud. Like, the richest man in the world is a terrible businessman. It's ... an interesting take
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@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
There's a lot of political stuff, too. I heard him described by a radio presenter as a terrible businessman, and literally laughed out loud. Like, the richest man in the world is a terrible businessman. It's ... an interesting take
To be fair, that wealth is from a ludicrous valuation of Tesla.
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@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
There's a lot of political stuff, too. I heard him described by a radio presenter as a terrible businessman, and literally laughed out loud. Like, the richest man in the world is a terrible businessman. It's ... an interesting take
To be fair, that wealth is from a ludicrous valuation of Tesla.
which he kinda built into a massive operation. And also SpaceX of course ... and he got a fat payout from PayPal. You can think he's a dick (true), a maverick (also true), but he's got good business sense and has built some massive companies. Fair play to the dude ... transforming the electic car market and building reusable spaceships are both game changers for our planet.
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@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
@NTA said in Musk & Twitter:
@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
Twitter has also laid off less than Meta (11,000) and many other tech companies over the past few weeks. There are significant layoffs going on at the moment in the tech industry.
Meta had 10 times the number of employees tho, so not exactly apples with apples.
Yes, but multiple companies laying off thousands of people is a clear trend to cut staff costs.
I thought Meta/Facebook had particular issues?
10,000 from Amazon, 6000 from HP, lots of smaller layoffs from other tech companies. One figure I saw was 73,000 annouced layoffs, could be more when it all washes out.
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@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
@NTA said in Musk & Twitter:
@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
Twitter has also laid off less than Meta (11,000) and many other tech companies over the past few weeks. There are significant layoffs going on at the moment in the tech industry.
Meta had 10 times the number of employees tho, so not exactly apples with apples.
Yes, but multiple companies laying off thousands of people is a clear trend to cut staff costs.
I thought Meta/Facebook had particular issues?
10,000 from Amazon, 6000 from HP, lots of smaller layoffs from other tech companies. One figure I saw was 73,000 annouced layoffs, could be more when it all washes out.
Ok I thought Meta had particular problems but I take your point.
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@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
There's a lot of political stuff, too. I heard him described by a radio presenter as a terrible businessman, and literally laughed out loud. Like, the richest man in the world is a terrible businessman. It's ... an interesting take
To be fair, that wealth is from a ludicrous valuation of Tesla.
Which he points out whenever he can. Wealth is a silly measure of success of a business anyway. Before Tesla, EVs were not popular and hardly any other motor company was serious offering them - now it's the future. That's a pretty big success in my opinion.
SpaceX it's even more obviously successful. Add in Starlink, Battery products, Solar, etc - he clearly has sucessful businesses. From memory, he doesn't consider himself a businessman at all, but an engineer. Take that as you will.
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@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
There's a lot of political stuff, too. I heard him described by a radio presenter as a terrible businessman, and literally laughed out loud. Like, the richest man in the world is a terrible businessman. It's ... an interesting take
To be fair, that wealth is from a ludicrous valuation of Tesla.
which he kinda built into a massive operation. And also SpaceX of course ... and he got a fat payout from PayPal.
Yeah, Musk and Musk alone built Tesla. SpaceX is a private business so none of us know if that's profitable and his involvement with Paypal is less than sweet fuck all - that was Peter Thiel.
I'll say this for him; he's a great salesman.
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@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
There's a lot of political stuff, too. I heard him described by a radio presenter as a terrible businessman, and literally laughed out loud. Like, the richest man in the world is a terrible businessman. It's ... an interesting take
To be fair, that wealth is from a ludicrous valuation of Tesla.
which he kinda built into a massive operation. And also SpaceX of course ... and he got a fat payout from PayPal.
Yeah, Musk and Musk alone built Tesla. SpaceX is a private business so none of us know if that's profitable and his involvement with Paypal is less than sweet fuck all - that was Peter Thiel.
I'll say this for him; he's a great salesman.
Awesome strawmen there. Even Musk doesn't claim he did all this alone.
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@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@No-Quarter said in Musk & Twitter:
Like a tweet I saw that went viral among lefties and "anti-Muskers" that reckoned a key reason it was going to crash was "a random HDD will fill up because nobody is watching it", and it would be catastrophic. Like yeah, sometimes directories get full and cause issues, but they are the easiest of incidents to fix, and the easiest to prevent repeats of. Just absurd nonsense.
Is it simply a political issue? Musk seems to have a rather mercurial approach to management, intervention and client autonomy, could be PR, could be personality, but hard to tell..
There's a lot of political stuff, too. I heard him described by a radio presenter as a terrible businessman, and literally laughed out loud. Like, the richest man in the world is a terrible businessman. It's ... an interesting take
To be fair, that wealth is from a ludicrous valuation of Tesla.
which he kinda built into a massive operation. And also SpaceX of course ... and he got a fat payout from PayPal.
Yeah, Musk and Musk alone built Tesla. SpaceX is a private business so none of us know if that's profitable and his involvement with Paypal is less than sweet fuck all - that was Peter Thiel.
I'll say this for him; he's a great salesman.
you'd struggle to say he's a crap businessman though. Richest man in the world.
Honestly, I thought he was a great salesman and was veeeery skeptical, but you hear him talk and he seems like a bloody good Engineer. It's impressive. He appears very hands on; rocket science is hard, but he's managed to drive people to a revolution there (and I don't say that lightly). 7 years ago they were being mocked for being reusable; 'reusable' had connotations of the space shuttle ... which was a full rebuild after each launch. Now it's the norm.
Oh yeah - and SpaceX is spinning off into internet available across the world. That's kinda crazy, and yet another game changer.
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@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
Oh yeah - and SpaceX is spinning off into internet available across the world. That's kinda crazy, and yet another game changer.
That is crazy - I can now purchase my wifi off Elon Musks satellites, no need to go to my local telco, no need for a fiber connection or any sort of infrastructure just use his satellites.
It's incredible and not to mention every telco that must be shitting themselves.
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@Windows97 said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
Oh yeah - and SpaceX is spinning off into internet available across the world. That's kinda crazy, and yet another game changer.
That is crazy - I can now purchase my wifi off Elon Musks satellites, no need to go to my local telco, no need for a fiber connection or any sort of infrastructure just use his satellites.
It's incredible and not to mention every telco that must be shitting themselves.
And he's launching 50 of those satellites every ten days. Once Starship is able to deploy those some time next year that will increase significantly too.