Musk & Twitter
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@Kiwiwomble said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp that all seems fair...and if he can run a company with a fraction of the staff without noticeable loss in turnover....thats going to make money
Or lose less money
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@Windows97 said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
Oh yeah - and SpaceX is spinning off into internet available across the world. That's kinda crazy, and yet another game changer.
That is crazy - I can now purchase my wifi off Elon Musks satellites, no need to go to my local telco, no need for a fiber connection or any sort of infrastructure just use his satellites.
and the satellites put it anywhere in the world. Eccentric Orbits book is really good - talks about the paucity of satellite coverage away from the equatorial regions. It drops off steeply as you head away. Iridium cracked it for phones; Starlink is doing it for internet. IT's crazy.
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@Kirwan said in Musk & Twitter:
And he's launching 50 of those satellites every ten days. Once Starship is able to deploy those some time next year that will increase significantly too.
Well the more satellites he puts up there the more coverage he'll get and ultimately the cheaper he'll be able to provide the service for.
And once it gets close the point that its the same or cheaper for average Joe to buy their internet off Elon as it does to get it from Spark or Slingshot then well the scales tip incredibly in his favor.
Because unlike Spark Elon can sell his internet to the entire world.
And fiber and cable could go the way of the phonebook...
That's impressive entrepreneurship whilst at the same time creating a potentially terrifying monopoly.
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@Windows97 said in Musk & Twitter:
And once it gets close the point that its the same or cheaper for average Joe to buy their internet off Elon as it does to get it from Spark or Slingshot then well the scales tip incredibly in his favor.
it sounds like this is unlikely in urban areas. I understand that density has significant effects on speed/quality.
Where it shines is anywhere that fibre isn't easy to get to - like most of the world outside cities.
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considering its only been the last 10 year where countries have rolled out hundreds of billions to install fibre...maybe they should have looked a bit further and invested in something like this
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@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@Windows97 said in Musk & Twitter:
And once it gets close the point that its the same or cheaper for average Joe to buy their internet off Elon as it does to get it from Spark or Slingshot then well the scales tip incredibly in his favor.
it sounds like this is unlikely in urban areas. I understand that density has significant effects on speed/quality.
Where it shines is anywhere that fibre isn't easy to get to - like most of the world outside cities.
Yes I could see that being an issue, but even then that's a much bigger target market than any other telco could wish to achieve.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Musk & Twitter:
considering its only been the last 10 year where countries have rolled out hundreds of billions to install fibre...maybe they should have looked a bit further and invested in something like this
Nah, fibre is a much better option if you can get it, much more stable/reliable and won't be interfered with by atmospheric conditions. The roll out of fibre is absolutely awesome and has been a big game changer for so many reasons, including the ability to work remotely / from home. Elon's satellite internet is very cool though, and as @nzzp is fantastic for areas outside of the main centres where laying fibre can be challenging.
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@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@Windows97 said in Musk & Twitter:
And once it gets close the point that its the same or cheaper for average Joe to buy their internet off Elon as it does to get it from Spark or Slingshot then well the scales tip incredibly in his favor.
it sounds like this is unlikely in urban areas. I understand that density has significant effects on speed/quality.
Where it shines is anywhere that fibre isn't easy to get to - like most of the world outside cities.
Yep. We looked at is as a competitor to another satellite provider looking to provide services to SE Asia and the Pacific, basically all the islands where it didn't make sense to land a cable. Elton's satellites needed to be launched in bulk to get the same coverage given low orbit. Not impossible, just a different model.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Musk & Twitter:
considering its only been the last 10 year where countries have rolled out hundreds of billions to install fibre...maybe they should have looked a bit further and invested in something like this
Not cost effective until you had reusable rockets, and that was supposed to be impossible. Fibre will always be better for high density urban areas, in most cases.
This is the missing piece of the puzzle for the underserved rural areas (That ISPs in the US have taken billions from taxpayers and never delivered, in some cases multiple times!). Also will allow for a truely global, always connected internet. Great for 3rd world countries, opens up all sorts of opporunities to grow economies.
Add in the T-Mobile deal (which will spread) that allows for current hardware to connect to these satellites when out of service, it's going to be a hugely profitable business.
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@voodoo said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@Windows97 said in Musk & Twitter:
And once it gets close the point that its the same or cheaper for average Joe to buy their internet off Elon as it does to get it from Spark or Slingshot then well the scales tip incredibly in his favor.
it sounds like this is unlikely in urban areas. I understand that density has significant effects on speed/quality.
Where it shines is anywhere that fibre isn't easy to get to - like most of the world outside cities.
Yep. We looked at is as a competitor to another satellite provider looking to provide services to SE Asia and the Pacific, basically all the islands where it didn't make sense to land a cable. Elton's satellites needed to be launched in bulk to get the same coverage given low orbit. Not impossible, just a different model.
Should be a problem …..because he is a ROCKETMANNNN
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@Steve said in Musk & Twitter:
@voodoo said in Musk & Twitter:
@nzzp said in Musk & Twitter:
@Windows97 said in Musk & Twitter:
And once it gets close the point that its the same or cheaper for average Joe to buy their internet off Elon as it does to get it from Spark or Slingshot then well the scales tip incredibly in his favor.
it sounds like this is unlikely in urban areas. I understand that density has significant effects on speed/quality.
Where it shines is anywhere that fibre isn't easy to get to - like most of the world outside cities.
Yep. We looked at is as a competitor to another satellite provider looking to provide services to SE Asia and the Pacific, basically all the islands where it didn't make sense to land a cable. Elton's satellites needed to be launched in bulk to get the same coverage given low orbit. Not impossible, just a different model.
Should be a problem …..because he is a ROCKETMANNNN
Ha ha, nicely played, I won't edit it 😜
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@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
Been following some of those employees posting on twitter during the last month. Firing them was like having a tumour removed. Entitled nitwits.
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I think Alyssa Milano is just a parody of a human being
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@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
Yeah, Musk and Musk alone built Tesla.
I assume this is sarcasm but I noticed many people believe this and don't know who Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning are.
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@nostrildamus said in Musk & Twitter:
@antipodean said in Musk & Twitter:
Yeah, Musk and Musk alone built Tesla.
I assume this is sarcasm but I noticed many people believe this and don't know who Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning are.
Well, when Elon joined the company with those two they had five employees, three of them being Musk, Eberhard and Tarpenning. When they left (the other two fighting each other to be CEO) they had delivered 147 cars.
What was built after 2009, particularly around production can be fairly laid at Musk's feet.
Seems to be a weird obsession from his critics to belittle his input, but he clearly has an impact, in multiple companies now.