@Number-10 said in Bulls vs Chiefs: @Bones said in Bulls vs Chiefs: @Stargazer said in Bulls vs Chiefs: What happened to Debreczeni? MMac came on very early, but I didn't see why Debreczeni had to come off. He had a head knock early on. Weber was like a different player today, definitely made TTT look like the rookie - his pass to the left is pretty slow/sloppy... Has it always been like that and I haven't noticed? Halfbacks and first-fives usually look a lot better when their forwards are going forward and providing good quick ball and protection - it is not a coincidence. Thanks that was my first game of rugby. So you're saying the forwards turned to shit when Tahuriorangi came on?

Weber looks well off the pace to me. Hesitant at the breakdown and his passing is erratic at best.

Switching DMac back to his best position is the best news out of Hamilton so far this season, let's hope they try it.

@shark said in Crusaders v Chiefs: I need to qualify what I meant... It's the internet. There really is no need.

@Duluth Missed that.

@Nepia Coaches, as well - Leon, KK, Andrew Goodman, Hammer....Toddy is away seeking global domination!

@Duluth lucky nobody on here got on their high horse insisting that they knew the laws and it was a straight red. #nobody knows the fucken law interpretations with any certainty

With former Melbourne Rebels pivot Jack Debreczeni available again after an illness that ruled him out last week, the Chiefs have a selection conundrum to solve ahead of announcing their team on Thursday night (NZ time). Debreczeni was set for his first Chiefs start against the Hurricanes but Marty McKenzie took his place alongside his younger brother, who looked like his electric self again after an indifferent spell at first-five. "Having a world class fullback at the back made a difference and we'll probably be looking to do that again," Matson said of All Black Damian McKenzie. Either Debreczeni or Marty McKenzie will start at first-five should Damian McKenzie, as expected, remain at fullback, while the Chiefs are further boosted by the return of outside back Solomon Alaimalo after recovering from a head knock. Matson said Alaimalo's availability was "critical" and he would be a likely starter to help combat the commanding kicking game of Bulls and Springboks first-five Handre Polland, who is the competition's leading points scorer with 74, which is 28 more than any other player.

The French should feel mortified they lost to a team that had that as a first five-eighth. Exactly the sort of game that gives me All Black RWC nightmares.

@stargazer said in Chiefs v Hurricanes: @crucial Yep. Blackadder signed him; he hardly got game time for the Crusaders because others were considered better; and Robbertson led him go. The few times he did play for us I actually thought he went okay. Provided some impact off the bench.

@taniwharugby said in Chiefs vs Brumbies: Rasta has an interesting interpretation on the game... Very diplomatic of you.

@bones said in Highlanders vs Chiefs: Not a lot being said about DMac. Thought he was the pick of the 10s this weekend. Led his team brilliantly. Not surprising. DMac is usually only mentioned in a positive light, just so the writer can then point out the other reasons why they don't like him and don't want him near the AB's.

@gt12 I concur. I've always said DMac is way better at FB than as a 10. I can see why Shag may want him at half back also. But there is a world of difference between BB, Mo'unga and daylight - then DMac. If we could get (and keep) Black fit and somehow get JGB's and Perofeta's confidence levels up we would be humming.

P.S. Expect Chefs forwards will be gunning for Canes pack in last pool game.

Chiefs put up a decent account for themselves all things considered.

@pakman said in Stormers vs Chiefs: @crucial said in Stormers vs Chiefs: @rebound said in Stormers vs Chiefs: @shadowtrooper TMO didn't want to embarras the referee there. Referee rules no try knock on. TMO answers no clear evidence of knock on, stay with on filed decision (which he then makes up) forward pass. Could he just not have said, no knock on but a forward pass. But clearly there neither was clear evidence of that as well. Just a f up and worrying trend. I was pissed off at that one. Basically the ref said 'on field decision try' then changed to 'on field is no try' because the AR was insistent that there was an obvious knock on by Ngatai. As the pictures showed it wasn't clear and obvious at all. There was no proof of any knock on or forward pass and the grounding was clean, yet no try awarded. Ref appeared to me to go with 'on field decision no try' purely out of solidarity with AR. Based on TMO AR was wrong, so no reason why try couldn't be awarded, which ought to have been the question. Problem is that the TMO can only change on field decision if he has proof of difference. If the on-field was 'try unless you can prove a knock on' then the try would have been awarded as the TMO had no proof of a k.o. Instead it was 'No Try unless you can prove there wasn't a k.o.'. TMO can't prove there was no k.o. therefore no try. I kind of get why Fraser sided with his AR yet is seems inconsistent with how they deal with 'foot in touch'. Usually if the AR says there was a f.i.t they check the replay for that unless the AR says it was clear and obvious. There is no way that potential touch by Ngatai was C and O. And yet the Stormers are the ones crying about the ref and laying a complaint to SANZAAR. Go figure.

Sharks in 2014 might be the last time a team won its regular season games in NZ? They beat the Crusaders and Blues (they lost a playoff game in NZ later that year) Reds did it in 2013 too

Taumalolo Elliott Afeaki Robinson Retallick Gibbes Cane / Holah Messam Kelleher Cruden Sivivatu Little Bunce Kahui Muliana Toby Smith (he was very good before he left for Australia) De Malmanche White (I don't rate Tameifuna a lot) Jones Lauaki TKB Beaver Reihana

Cane, DMac and ALB all need to be rested once. Obviously all their ABs will miss the Sharks game. BBBR didn't play in the first Blues game so is sorted. Harris missed this game.

@mn5 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @gt12 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @mn5 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @bones said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @mn5 something about penetrating from the back and blokes getting something up so that it goes straight down your throat. Good God man. Do you actually think before you post? Stones and glass houses right here. Guilty as charged As am I, during any Chiefs game.