@Bovidae that was my point.

@Jailbreak7 said in Chiefs v Brumbies (round 4): Colour me irritated/disappointed bloody annoyed. Not with the loss so much (then again, maybe) but more the manner in which we lost. Chiefs have prided themseleves on their D for the 1st 3 games. The D against the Ponies was weak as water non-existent at times Agreed. People are talking about how good the Brumbies were - not hard to look good when you're consistently going forward and making breaks from poor defence. A straight line instead of shooters leaving gaping holes and making first up tackles would've resulted in the Brumbies kicking more often, giving some possession to the Chiefs.

Split the Japan/SR conversation to its own thread https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3783/japan-and-super-rugby

@ACT-Crusader Mounga would've made a big difference on Saturday.

@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Chiefs: just put a different halfback in rather for some reason always defaulting to Ruru as the starter you would hope Nock will get a chance this weekend, and he has a massive opportunity to claim that jersey, if not, Christie will get his chance and the merry-go-round will continue.

@Crucial said in Chiefs 2020: Great news about Laulala. It’s only a matter of time before the patched up front row runs out of steam I'd be very surprised if Laulala is on the plane to SA. I spoke to him briefly outside the stadium and he still has a noticeable limp when walking so I doubt he could play next weekend.

@MN5 said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs: @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs: @MN5 said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs: @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs: @MN5 As you want to be wilfully obtuse/dense I'll break it down for you Fact that ARG are 10th in rankings is: A. Meaningless B. Linked to their lack of intensity for Test matches they consider friendlies There's been ALOT of changes to ARG in last 18 months Ledesma going from Jaguares HC to Pumas HC in 2018 As well as Quesada now being the Jaguares HC in 2019 Times are changing Pumas have woken up from their lethargy & incompetence at all levels of the game Says who ? I have a feeling the ABs would be mighty pissed off if they lost the number one ranking. Scotlands two victories both came in the last 18 months. ABs are a different animal They've been #1 for most of the Professional Era Pumas have no interest TBH in rankings You can play mickey mouse teams & pick up points **SCO victories whilst nice are ultimately meaningless long term RWC is the objective & as I've stated already Pumas were still getting their shit together** OK, well in that case hopefully all international matches between World Cups are called off. What's the point in them ? Pub quiz in Glasgow.. "And the final question to win the £200 is: Take Thats first album consisted of four words, the first two words were "Take That" so what was the second two words. . .? There was a long pause then a wee Glasgow man pipes up... Was it "Ya C@nt"...?!

Think we’d have a better shot against the Jaguares, but the direct flight to Christchurch is understandably more appealing! https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113466880/super-rugby-chiefs-hoping-to-face-topseeded-crusaders-in-quarterfinal

@shark It's not hard to understand, it's merely wrong. Each of Havili'i, Bridge, Reece and Ennor are in possible AB contention. They would not care less about the guys behind them, because the guys behind are far worse than they are. They will play every game as well as they can, because they are looking at higher honours, not over their shoulders. Meanwhile other teams have their best players not being fielded. That's a far worse situation that worrying that some of your also-rans can't make the team. I would love it if the Chiefs could field Damien McKenzie, at the cost of not being able to field Etene Nanai-Seturo.

The tackle is over the top of the shoulder thus probably should be a penalty try anyway.

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Otere didn't even get off the bench in this game. Actually, 3 players didn't get off the bench, which is pretty rare these days. I bet the coaches were almost going to make it 4, but they somehow convinced themselves to let Pulu come on.

Never forget fellas

@cgrant said in Highlanders vs Chiefs: For a few Ferners here : it's Jacobson and not Jacobsen. Pity. It would make a better story if he was the son of Danish migrants.

@Chester-Draws said in Hurricanes vs Chiefs: @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Hurricanes vs Chiefs: @No-Quarter said in Hurricanes vs Chiefs: @Rancid-Schnitzel I've been waiting for days for you to comment on Jordie's performance. This thread is now complete. Ha ha. He still wasn't at 12 though! For me, this isn't a Canes thing or Beadie's brother thing. I saw Jordie play for the NZ U20s and Canterbury before he ever signed for the Canes (I assumed he would stay down south) and could see that he was a special talent. It's frustrating when he does stupid shit (unnecessary offloads etc) but the potential is massive and he's still very young. Some people are very quick to throw players on the scrap heap. Just look at Nonu. NZ sees lots of "special" players. Sorry, but that's not enough. Damien McKenzie is plenty special, but that doesn't mean he should start every game. Another really special player was Rupeni Caucaunibuca. But special really, really isn't enough. The follow through is just as important. I'm sorry, but that is a bizarre post.

Our forwards were absolute meh for most of that match. TBH I thought we would lose by more when I saw the starting side. But we really need to learn how to defend at close quarters I lost count how many attacks came from straighttheough the middle of the ruck. Where were our guard dogs FFS?

@Nogusta Well that's fucked for the young bloke. He was starting to really show some form too at fullback.

@cgrant good point, almost like a Cane lite.

I was impressed by Luke Jacobson. His tackling was ferocious, hit the rucks with efficiency and ran hard. He is one to watch this year IMO. Incredible game from Alex Nankivell too. I hope he will keep playing like that. A combo with ALB could be interesting in the next weeks to come.

Weber looks well off the pace to me. Hesitant at the breakdown and his passing is erratic at best.

Switching DMac back to his best position is the best news out of Hamilton so far this season, let's hope they try it.

I need to qualify what I meant by my comment about NPC form meaning nothing. It can certainly play you into a Super Rugby squad, but doesn’t neccessarily mean you can translate that form into SR, and some find that step up much harder than expected. It’s relatively easy to dominate at the lower level but then the next step is becoming harder by the year as our depth is eroded. Problem being, how often in the NPC is a freshie coming up against an established Super Rugby player, or veteran, in ten rounds?

@Duluth Missed that.

@Nepia Coaches, as well - Leon, KK, Andrew Goodman, Hammer....Toddy is away seeking global domination!

@Duluth lucky nobody on here got on their high horse insisting that they knew the laws and it was a straight red. #nobody knows the fucken law interpretations with any certainty

UNIVERSITY OF WAIKATO CHIEFS REGION UNDER 16 TOURNAMENT SET TO KICK-OFF University of Waikato Chiefs Region Under 16 Tournament is set to showcase the up and coming rugby talent within Chiefs Country. The tournament proudly sponsored by University of Waikato will see Bay of Plenty, Counties Manukau, Taranaki and Waikato’s respective Under 16 sides take to the field from Monday 30 September through to Thursday 3 October. Teams will compete across three days with hosts Taranaki kicking off the tournament against Waikato at 5.00pm, followed by Counties Manukau and Bay of Plenty at 7.00pm. Both games will take place at TET Stadium, Inglewood on Monday 30 September, before the tournament moves to New Plymouth Boys’ High School for day two (Tuesday 1 October) and the final round robin matches on Thursday 3 October. . The tournament format is as follows: Monday 30th September 2019: TET Stadium, Inglewood 5.00pm Kick off: Taranaki vs Waikato 7.00pm Kick off: Counties Manukau vs Bay of Plenty Tuesday 1st October 2019: New Plymouth Boys’ High School, New Plymouth 12.00pm Kick off: Bay of Plenty vs Waikato 2.00pm Kick off: Taranaki vs Counties Manukau Wednesday 2nd October 2019: Education Day, New Plymouth Boys’ High School, New Plymouth 9.30am – 12.00pm Thursday 3rd October 2019: New Plymouth Boys’ High School, New Plymouth 12.00pm Kick off: Counties Manukau vs Waikato 2.00pm Kick off: Taranaki vs Bay of Plenty For team lists, see the article.

The French should feel mortified they lost to a team that had that as a first five-eighth. Exactly the sort of game that gives me All Black RWC nightmares.

@stargazer said in Chiefs v Hurricanes: @crucial Yep. Blackadder signed him; he hardly got game time for the Crusaders because others were considered better; and Robbertson led him go. The few times he did play for us I actually thought he went okay. Provided some impact off the bench.

@taniwharugby said in Chiefs vs Brumbies: Rasta has an interesting interpretation on the game... Very diplomatic of you.

@bones said in Highlanders vs Chiefs: Not a lot being said about DMac. Thought he was the pick of the 10s this weekend. Led his team brilliantly. Not surprising. DMac is usually only mentioned in a positive light, just so the writer can then point out the other reasons why they don't like him and don't want him near the AB's.

@gt12 I concur. I've always said DMac is way better at FB than as a 10. I can see why Shag may want him at half back also. But there is a world of difference between BB, Mo'unga and daylight - then DMac. If we could get (and keep) Black fit and somehow get JGB's and Perofeta's confidence levels up we would be humming.

P.S. Expect Chefs forwards will be gunning for Canes pack in last pool game.

Chiefs put up a decent account for themselves all things considered.

@pakman said in Stormers vs Chiefs: @crucial said in Stormers vs Chiefs: @rebound said in Stormers vs Chiefs: @shadowtrooper TMO didn't want to embarras the referee there. Referee rules no try knock on. TMO answers no clear evidence of knock on, stay with on filed decision (which he then makes up) forward pass. Could he just not have said, no knock on but a forward pass. But clearly there neither was clear evidence of that as well. Just a f up and worrying trend. I was pissed off at that one. Basically the ref said 'on field decision try' then changed to 'on field is no try' because the AR was insistent that there was an obvious knock on by Ngatai. As the pictures showed it wasn't clear and obvious at all. There was no proof of any knock on or forward pass and the grounding was clean, yet no try awarded. Ref appeared to me to go with 'on field decision no try' purely out of solidarity with AR. Based on TMO AR was wrong, so no reason why try couldn't be awarded, which ought to have been the question. Problem is that the TMO can only change on field decision if he has proof of difference. If the on-field was 'try unless you can prove a knock on' then the try would have been awarded as the TMO had no proof of a k.o. Instead it was 'No Try unless you can prove there wasn't a k.o.'. TMO can't prove there was no k.o. therefore no try. I kind of get why Fraser sided with his AR yet is seems inconsistent with how they deal with 'foot in touch'. Usually if the AR says there was a f.i.t they check the replay for that unless the AR says it was clear and obvious. There is no way that potential touch by Ngatai was C and O. And yet the Stormers are the ones crying about the ref and laying a complaint to SANZAAR. Go figure.

Sharks in 2014 might be the last time a team won its regular season games in NZ? They beat the Crusaders and Blues (they lost a playoff game in NZ later that year) Reds did it in 2013 too

Taumalolo Elliott Afeaki Robinson Retallick Gibbes Cane / Holah Messam Kelleher Cruden Sivivatu Little Bunce Kahui Muliana Toby Smith (he was very good before he left for Australia) De Malmanche White (I don't rate Tameifuna a lot) Jones Lauaki TKB Beaver Reihana

Cane, DMac and ALB all need to be rested once. Obviously all their ABs will miss the Sharks game. BBBR didn't play in the first Blues game so is sorted. Harris missed this game.

@mn5 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @gt12 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @mn5 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @bones said in Hurricanes v Chiefs: @mn5 something about penetrating from the back and blokes getting something up so that it goes straight down your throat. Good God man. Do you actually think before you post? Stones and glass houses right here. Guilty as charged As am I, during any Chiefs game.

@chester-draws said in Chiefs v Blues: @pakman said in Chiefs v Blues: @crucial Fairly old now, but disappointing that he doesn't APPEAR to be providing much leadership either. Possibly his little domestic troubles may have lowered his mana somewhat. I know that is off-field, but I doubt he wanted to put his head up for a long while. Or maybe he overdid it at his 35th birthday celebrations on Thursday?!