The Silver Fern

@Bones said in QF - Waikato v BOP:

Is he the one most likely to become the next Kurt Baker?

He does seem to have a bit of Baker about him. Good player, well suited to sevens but his workrate will bring value to NPC level if not Super.

I thought that Ratima played a big part in the comeback. He brought some energy on which DMac tuned into. The connection between those two was much better and DMac had that extra moment on the ball to wait for the defence to make a decision then try and take advantage.
That first of the three comeback tries was DMac on a good day to a tee. Ball in both hands looking at options then an acceleration through two forwards and a great offload.
Ratima mixed it up quite a bit and also cleaned some critical breakdowns on the verge of isolation.
To me that extra action and energy is what had BOP's storm week problems kick in and errors start.
Will be a cracker game next week.

@foobaNZ said in Wellington v Waikato (RS):

Higgins was great. You'd have to hope him and Lakai are around for years to come in Canes jerseys.

Really happy we keep the Shield over the summer.

After that Northland performance I thought we'd be struggling to make the 4, but been a real turnaround since.

Congrats on the little one canes4life. Nothing better than watching them grow 🙂

Cheers bro, she’s grown a little already in two weeks haha.

The fact we are unbeaten with Aiden Morgan running the cutter shows how important he is to our run for a title. He definitely has a few work ons as he’s still developing but the way he conducts the team has been brilliant. We look like a different team when he’s playing.

Commanding performance from Fabian Holland in the LO. He is also very mobile. With a few additional kgs of muscle, he could be well in the mix for an AB selection after the RWC. I also liked what I saw of young McClea. He looks to be a good prospect. I would start him ahead of Parapara who is rather slow.

@Bovidae yes. He has been quicker overall in the past. Think there is something going on in his mind about checking options before and after he picks up ball. Maybe just needs to hurry to one pace closer and wait for a call behind him. More minutes will sharpen it up.

And as the graphic showed DMac is up there with winning the most breakdown turnovers. Not a forward to be seen in the top 5. 🙂

Take the 4 pts and flush the dunny.

I was not expecting Te Rama Reuben (a no.8) to move into lock. Hopefully the injuries to Leuila and Coombes-Fabling aren't too serious and we get some locks back for the storm week coming up.

Counties have already exceeded my expectations. Beating a solid Otago team and running Waikato and Hawkes Bay close. I hope they can make the Quarter Finals. Awesome that they are promoting local players and coaches. Plenty of talent comes out of the region and the odd one moves to the region. Got to work on the lineouts!!!

@OleOleOle said in Northland v Waikato:

@taniwharugby I agree, can't believe he let them get away with that tap. Not sure the try that was ruled out by the TMO came from a pass that went forward out of the hand so swings and roundabouts, maybe...

We were right in line with that at the game. More obvious live than on replay because of camera angles. Definitely forward out of hand.

That said on balance Waikato should have put Northland away a lot earlier given set piece dominance so in the end result a fair reflection of game.

@Stargazer said in Waikato v Hawke's Bay:

@TheMojoman said in Waikato v Hawke's Bay:

On paper this is match of the round.

You weren't wrong.

What a game, outstanding.

Thanks. They've done well to find that old video footage.

It was a cool atmosphere too.

$9 a can opened up the ole wallet a bit but who cares in that situation. Was a very fun evening.

Book ended the game with beers at the Eastside which I haven't been to in a very long time.

@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):

I agree. Some goodish players and some potential. But the squad is nothing special.. I think a few people haven’t noticed the change in quality (particularly the Sky commentators)

the quality of rugby analysis and insight in the commentating teams is woeful.

....i went to the pub and missed the last 20

@bovidae said in BOP v Waikato:

Is Campbell injured too, or one of the many who have had to leave for overseas contracts?

I reckon you could make a very good combined BOP/Waikato XV from the players who didn't play in this game. 🙂

Another gone to EDIT : France, other team mates Japan

@act-crusader said in Hawke's Bay v Waikato (RS):

@williethewaiter said in Hawke's Bay v Waikato (RS):

That last shoulder charge pisses me off in general.. That's what a red card should be for.. dirty cheap shots..

Add to that Toala putting his hands up and asking the the ref “what did I do?”. Clear as day shoulder charge with no attempt whatsoever to wrap arm(s) around. Should always be a red.

Any update on Tongia? He was down for a bit

You're rubbing it on a bit thick, he slightly put his hands up at the time and then acknowledged the card with a gesture to the ref as he walked off.

On replay I think @Bones is correct Tongia cut in just as Toala was setting for the tackle.

I would post diagramed pics if I was Australian and/or not lazy.

@bovidae agreed on those things. Naholo missed tackle badly for Waaka try. Thought game was won then for Waikato but some bad decisions by F Smith and the loss of Roe's cool tactical head cost them. Mcwhannell was great but whole tight five were very effective.

@taniwharugby said in Northland v Waikato:

@dice the origin of the Turtle...iirc Rangers was in response to the move Digby Ioane was busting out at the time

Geez, I missed your post.

@yeetyaah I don't think you can describe Hames as a commentator of Tasman games, more a cheerleader

We were discussing this leaving the stadium and joked that NZR would issue an apology during the week.

@kiwimurph said in Waikato vs Wellington:

Super teams should be eyeing up Ratima.

He's got a Kelleher thing going. If he's lucky that will lead to a pornstar wife at least.

Dawai was real good, he's been around for a couple of years at least but looks better in this one game than he has ever IMO.

@Crazy-Horse said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:

@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:

@Crazy-Horse said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:

@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:

@African-Monkey said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:

I'm 50 mins into this game and geez does TJ have money on Waikato to win? Every decision that goes Auckland's way he sulks like a baby and has done nothing but rip into them when they make an error.

It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.

I suspect the reason why some don’t hear it is they kind of agree with TJs anti-Auckland stance. Difference is they aren’t paid to basically promote a sport.

Look at that Oz league commentator that makes a basic try seem like it was orgasmic. It’s almost like he likes the sport or something.

I can't speak for others, but I am not anti Auckland, or anyone else for that matter. I just don't care enough for that shit.

I have asked before, but someone give examples on how he is so mean to Auckland/Blues so I can see what I am missing. I recall TJ being critical and sounding frustrated at the Blues a few seasons ago when they were playing dumb rugby, but at the same time just about everyone on here were expressing the same frustrations.

Lately I have been hearing TJ shooting his load over some of the young Auckland players - Rayasi and Sullivan spring to mind.

Auckland does something good, muted enthusiasm. Opponent does the same thing, creams his pants.

Auckland makes a mistake, goes on a multi minute rant. Opponent does the same thing, doesn’t get mentioned.

Example from this game, Auckland player gets shoulder charged off the ball, with the whiplash effect it looked like it nearly knocked him out.

He goes on and on about it was a harsh penalty.

His job is to commentate, not cheerlead his favourites. Every other province gets a local colour commentator, and they generally keep him in check when he starts talking shit.

If we can’t replace this dickhead, then at least pair him with an ex Auckland player that can call him out when he displays his bias, and crucially can sound enthusiastic for the Auckland team in the biggest rugby market in the country.

Yeah I recall him going on about the shoulder charge but saw it as him not agreeing with the penalty, not an anti Auckland thing. But I acknowledge that could come across as anti Auckland if you had a horse in the race.

Reminds me of people saying Justin Marshall favours the Crusaders in his commentary, but from my perspective as a Crusader supporter it seems the opposite. It's like he deliberately goes against the Crusaders to appear neutral. We all see and interpret things differently.

And you would have a point if it was just me going on about his bias, but even non-Auckland fans notice it.

I think Waikato has been training with Wellington on how to derail your season wow what a slide...

Am away this weekend so miss the BOP v Harbour match. What a huge one that will be! Back in time for the final v Waikato though. That is assuming that Tasman and Auckland maintain their current approach through semis. I can dream....

@Yeetyaah said in Auckland v Waikato:

Kinda glad I didn't watch that one. At a mates wedding drunk as shit.

Here’s the highlights. Enjoy 🙂

That was a good second half by both sides. Two evenly matched teams.

Unlucky finish at the end for the Naki because they had created the space.

That halfback for the Mooloo has a pretty sweet pass on him.

That was a peach of a last 20 mins from us. I was supposed to be at the game but decided to go down a couple of weeks earlier instead. Mates still went though and are still celebrating.

@Bovidae Yes, good to see mitch getting game time...he's playing well too. Just good to see Luke on the field.

I thought Pickerill was a step up from the guy last week.

@Hooroo Small world eh, my flatmate went to school with him and knows him.

@Yeetyaah said in Tasman v Waikato:

@Machpants so any player can disrupt the ball in a pass as long as it's flicked back?

Of course. You're not offside and you're not in any way deliberately knocking it forward.

@taniwharugby said in Waikato v North Harbour:

@Yeetyaah said in Waikato v North Harbour:

Te Whare is quite fast

certainly seems to have a great burst of speed!!

Te Whare is definitely quicker than someone of his physique should be. I think he has played mostly on the wing in rep rugby.

@Hooroo said in Waikato v Wellington:

@Snowy said in Waikato v Wellington:

@Yeetyaah I'm not a boomer and you don't have my staff or my nieces. They spell like that.

The odd thing about it is that it works.

My mum is late to the texting show. Only been doing it for about 3-4 years. Her older sister (my Aunty) is really good and quick at is and uses abbreviations all the time.

This weekend before our horse was racing, Mum sent, "Gluck"

I think your Mum has just invented a word, and I like it.

All of the years we have been wasting letters it seems.

Anyway the Wellington half back's parents decided to do it years ago too.

Would have been fun to watch that Waikato midfield with both players in their prime.

@Tim I reckon Manawatu might have the better pack - at least in terms of the "greatness" pantheon.

Waikato only has Loe and (for a short time) Messam as regular first choice ABs.

Manawatu has Knight, Lambert, Shaw and Eveleigh.

@Bovidae said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

@Crucial So we are down to our 3rd choice 1st 5 now?

I'm tempted to go for Wayne Smith as the best option for our backline, not Foster. A game for Waikato B must count! 🙂

No one will remember Murray Taylor. I don't.

Well if you didn’t poach your 10s from elsewhere you wouldn’t have that problem.
I have put Foster in at the moment but you can decide a late sub if you want

@Bovidae said in Waikato 2020:

There was also a U20 game on at Beetham Park between Waikato and Taranaki U20s today at the same time as the FPC game.

An update:

Firstly, never ask a player involved in a game what the score was. 🙂 Taranaki won 24-19.

Secondly, this wasn't an U20 game as such, but one of a series of games between the academy players from each province within the Chiefs region. The Waikato team is mainly U19 and younger than most of the other teams they are playing.

@Yeetyaah They saw Aumua play for Tasman and thought they could do it, too.

@Yeetyaah said in Waikato v Taranaki:

Fletch is having an average game.

I thought he was alright. Better than Perofeta anyhow.

He's not well served inside and at least can catch and pass.