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Has anyone tried this stuff? A flatmate of mine swears by it and uses cycles of it every so often to drop body weight. Apparently it speeds up metabolism and aids weight loss. Sounds a little like diet pills to me and I wonder what the side effects are. Apparently its pretty big in the bodybuilding circles?
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like most of these things pretty gimmicky. Used similar stuff when leaning down for competing recently. Don't think I would use it otherwise. Side effects - your wallet gets emptier!
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Did anyone catch that show on bodybuilders in auckland late last night ? I mention the wallet bit cos one of the competitors said she was spending over 4 hundy A WEEK on food and supplements. Holy shit, thats crazy !
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According to the scales at the petrol station today Im down to 106 kegs anyway. I would be scared if I took any supplements someone might start kicking sand in my face at the beach or even worse I could slip down the plughole!
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As a fitness enthusiast, I have to say I'm really not a big fan of all the bullshit supplements that con artists try to sell. My view on supplements (and most real doctors will back this up) is that 95% of them are completely useless.<br />
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A good daily multivitamin, fish oil, and glucosamine perhaps. Although as far as randomized controlled clinical trials are concerned, the efficacy of glucosamine has never been proven.<br />
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Too much of this shit will simply overload your kidneys. -
[quote]glucosamine [/quote]<br />
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My personal trial on this - it works - I don't take it, and withing days I am hobbling - rooted ankles and knees from rugby. Get back onto the glucosamine, and again, within days, able to function as a human being again!<br />
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No doubt though, different people will have different results, but I would be a tick in the 'works bllody well column'<br />
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Different supplements have different effects on different people though. I remember reading that both Marc Ellis and Anton Oliver are "immune" to creatine. Having taken it a few times myself I suspect I might be as well and haven't really justified getting any more of that "fake muscle shit" ( my wifes words ) <br />
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creatine you just piss out what you dont use, and you should be getting enough in the meat that you eat anyway - a great con I reckon on that one!
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Is protein powder considered a bullshit supplement?
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[quote name='Milk']Is protein powder considered a bullshit supplement?[/quote]<br />
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I wouldn't say so but it definitely helps if you also knock back a few steaks, eggs and chicken breasts. -
[quote name='BartMan']creatine you just piss out what you dont use, and you should be getting enough in the meat that you eat anyway - a great con I reckon on that one![/quote]<br />
I've done two cycles of creatine, one did nothing and the other gave me some large gains (no major changes to my workout or intensity)<br />
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The only difference I could tell were<br />
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For the cycle that didn't do anything - the creatine was relatively cheap and I still drank a small insignificant amount of alcohol<br />
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For the cycle that did work - the creatine was considerably more expensive and my alcohol in take was nil for the duration -
[quote name='Duluth'][quote name='BartMan']creatine you just piss out what you dont use, and you should be getting enough in the meat that you eat anyway - a great con I reckon on that one![/quote]<br />
I've done two cycles of creatine, one did nothing and the other gave me some large gains (no major changes to my workout or intensity)<br />
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The only difference I could tell were<br />
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For the cycle that didn't do anything - the creatine was relatively cheap and I still drank a small insignificant amount of alcohol<br />
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For the cycle that did work - the creatine was considerably more expensive and my alcohol in take was nil for the duration[/quote]<br />
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A ha ! That may have been my problem then. While not drinking the ridiculous amounts I had done in my youth I still enjoyed the odd wine or beer while creatining. Obviously a few more in the weekend. I may give it another go next year ( afterall not fucken likely at the moment with Xmas nearly upon us ) -
depends on the protein powder I assume - and like Duluth mentioned - the more you pay, the better the product, harsh but fair.<br />
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WE use Isomax protin powder - zero carbs, and it seems to do the trick. That, and chicken breasts, fish and lean steak. No eggs at the moment, thank fuck! -
I notice the EAS Powder has been taken off the market here. I wonder what that had in it.<br />
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[quote name='BartMan']depends on the protein powder I assume - and like Duluth mentioned - the more you pay, the better the product, harsh but fair.<br />
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WE use Isomax protin powder - zero carbs, and it seems to do the trick. That, and chicken breasts, fish and lean steak. No eggs at the moment, thank fuck![/quote]<br />
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Potentially stupid question but why no eggs Bart ? too much cholesterol ? A couple cracked into a protein skake always make it a bit more proteiny. -
nah, not because of the that - no idea why, just currently not in my diet plan. Last month or so I am eating 24 whites a day, and it smells like it too...
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[quote name='MN5']Different supplements have different effects on different people though. I remember reading that both Marc Ellis and Anton Oliver are "immune" to creatine. Having taken it a few times myself I suspect I might be as well and haven't really justified getting any more of that "fake muscle shit" ( my wifes words ) <br />
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Anton Oliver obviously has some pretty farkin decent muscle building genes though.[/QUOTE]<br />
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I think what Anton struggled with was the water retention from creatine. It bloated him up and made him sluggish. -
nothing worse than water retentiong - from 78kg to 92kg in four days was me post the national BB champs in 09. Not a great feeling that is for sure, feels like 100g of sausage meat stuffed into a 50g casing, and looks like it too....
