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    Counties Manukau v North Harbour

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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Duluth

      Counties Manukau

      1 Pauliasi Manu, 2. Joe Royal, 3. Kalolo Tuiloma, 4. Viliame Rarasea, 5. Matiaha Martin, 6. Ronald Raaymakers, 7. Fotu Lokotui, 8. Sam Henwood;
      9 Jonathan Taumateine, 10. Stephen Donald ©, 11. Tevita Nabura, 12. Orbyn Leger, 13. Tim Nanai-Williams, 14. Nigel Ah Wong, 15. Luteru Laulala.

      Reserves:
      16 Gafatasi Su'a, 17. Sean Bagshaw, 18. Coree Te Whata-Colley, 19. Leroy Jack, 20. Johnathan Kawau, 21, Liam Daniela, 22. Baden Kerr, 23. Albert Nikoro

      http://www.steelers.co.nz/steelers-heat/news/beaver-to-captain-pic-steelers-for-home-clash-against-harbour.html

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      • Tim
        Tim last edited by Tim

        Looking forward to the front-row battle.

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        • Duluth
          Duluth last edited by

          Nikoro's fourth NPC side - Auckland, Tasman, Waikato now Counties

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          • JK
            JK last edited by

            Harbour

            1. Chris Eves

            2. James Parsons (C)

            3. Sione Mafileo

            4. Gerard Cowley-Tuioti

            5. Jarrad Hoeata

            6. Glenn Preston

            7. Connor Collett

            8. Hapakuki Moala-Liava'a

            9. Bryn Hall

            10. Bryn Gatland

            11. Tevita Li

            12. Harrison Groundwater

            13. Matt Vaega

            14. Mark Telea

            15. Ben Volavola

            16. Steven Misa

            17. Karl Tuinukuafe

            18. Mike Tamoaieta

            19. Brandon Nansen

            20. Shane Neville

            21. Chris Smylie

            22. Dan Hilton-Jones

            23. Shaun Stevenson

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            • JK
              JK last edited by JK

              Sorry for shit formatting

              Few too many changes for my liking! No duffie and Stevenson to the bench.

              Was Murphy Taramai injured?

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              • Bovidae
                Bovidae @Duluth last edited by

                @Duluth said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                Nikoro's fourth NPC side - Auckland, Tasman, Waikato now Counties

                He's got Rico Gear's record in his sights.

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                • dogmeat
                  dogmeat last edited by

                  Everyone should get their money on CM now. They are the surest of sure things.

                  I've tipped Harbour for the first time this season.

                  They're doooooooooomed.

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                  • JK
                    JK last edited by

                    haha yeah i had a look and CM should win here. Harbour due a loss so have rested a few players to assist with the task.

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                    • mikedogz
                      mikedogz last edited by

                      Hardcase listening to the commentators on the stream I have found. Sounds like they are practicing before the actual broadcast.

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                      • Tim
                        Tim @mikedogz last edited by Tim

                        @mikedogz 🙂 Any huge calls to look forward to? 😉

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                        • G
                          Gunner last edited by

                          Is the lighting at the ground poor, or is it just me?
                          The wide shots are bad, the lighting is making it look like TV coverage of a game from in '90s.

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                          • mikedogz
                            mikedogz @Tim last edited by

                            @Tim Tony Johnson's pen ran out of ink.

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                            • mikedogz
                              mikedogz @Gunner last edited by

                              @Gunner Maybe because there is no light coming off the side of the field as there is an embankment not a grandstand.

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                              • Higgins
                                Higgins last edited by

                                Have they shown a shot of the new goat tonight?

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                                • G
                                  Gunner last edited by Gunner

                                  Serious question here - I thought you weren't allowed to dive onto a player on the ground?

                                  I think the right/sensible call was made, as the defender must be allowed the opportunity to defend his try line.

                                  Just wondering what the actual rule is, and how can they differentiate this from the other one we see more often and is penalised - an attacking player diving on a defender who has himself dived on a loose ball...

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                                  • mikedogz
                                    mikedogz last edited by

                                    I was worried he would get carded for the knee. A team mate this year did in club rugby. The timing of the knee was different in the club rugby game where it happened after the try.

                                    Counties are winning the scrums but losing the ball in the contest. The try before half time shows what they can do. Nigel ah Wong is a waste of money for a Super rugby player he doesn't really stand out. Beaver has lost a yard or two of pace I think. TNW still has his.

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                                    • Bovidae
                                      Bovidae last edited by

                                      It would have been interesting to see if the ref would have made a call if C-M didn't score as the NH backs never got back onside.

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                                      • Tim
                                        Tim @mikedogz last edited by

                                        @mikedogz Good scrum battle, with Counties up 3 - 1 so far. Manu looking good.

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                                        • Tim
                                          Tim last edited by

                                          What do our Cantabs know about Groundwater?

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                                          • Crucial
                                            Crucial @Gunner last edited by

                                            @Gunner said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                            Serious question here - I thought you weren't allowed to dive onto a player on the ground?

                                            I think the right/sensible call was made, as the defender must be allowed the opportunity to defend his try line.

                                            Just wondering what the actual rule is, and how can they differentiate this from the other one we see more often and is penalised - an attacking player diving on a defender who has himself dived on a loose ball...

                                            Law 14.1 and it makes really interesting reading. You could interpret it as that a player can't dive from a long way out and remove the ball from being contestable.

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                                            • Crucial
                                              Crucial last edited by

                                              TNW in! CM take the lead

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                                              • mikedogz
                                                mikedogz last edited by

                                                TNW in, great footwork.

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                                                • mikedogz
                                                  mikedogz last edited by

                                                  Jinx @Crucial

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                                                  • Tim
                                                    Tim last edited by

                                                    Gatland looked like he was struggling with that last kick. Now he's left the field.

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                                                    • Crucial
                                                      Crucial last edited by

                                                      I missed watching the first half. How is Taumateine going tonight? Thought he had a great game against the Naki.

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                                                        Gunner @Crucial last edited by

                                                        @Crucial said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                        @Gunner said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                        Serious question here - I thought you weren't allowed to dive onto a player on the ground?

                                                        I think the right/sensible call was made, as the defender must be allowed the opportunity to defend his try line.

                                                        Just wondering what the actual rule is, and how can they differentiate this from the other one we see more often and is penalised - an attacking player diving on a defender who has himself dived on a loose ball...

                                                        Law 14.1 and it makes really interesting reading. You could interpret it as that a player can't dive from a long way out and remove the ball from being contestable.

                                                        So should have been a penalty to counties for an early dive...

                                                        Does it say anything about diving on a player on the ground and/or the differentiation between the two circumstances?

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                                                        • Crucial
                                                          Crucial @Gunner last edited by

                                                          @Gunner said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                          @Crucial said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                          @Gunner said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                          Serious question here - I thought you weren't allowed to dive onto a player on the ground?

                                                          I think the right/sensible call was made, as the defender must be allowed the opportunity to defend his try line.

                                                          Just wondering what the actual rule is, and how can they differentiate this from the other one we see more often and is penalised - an attacking player diving on a defender who has himself dived on a loose ball...

                                                          Law 14.1 and it makes really interesting reading. You could interpret it as that a player can't dive from a long way out and remove the ball from being contestable.

                                                          So should have been a penalty to counties for an early dive...

                                                          Does it say anything about diving on a player on the ground and/or the differentiation between the two circumstances?

                                                          (a) Falling over the player on the ground with the ball. A player must not intentionally fall on or over a player with the ball who is lying on the ground.

                                                          Key phrase here is 'lying on the ground'. This law is all about tackled or stationary players and protecting them from floppers denying them the ability to play the ball.

                                                          There is also part of the law that says..

                                                          14.1 Players on the ground
                                                          (a)
                                                          A player with the ball must immediately do one of three things:
                                                          Get up with the ball
                                                          Pass the ball
                                                          Release the ball.

                                                          and

                                                          The Game is to be played by players who are on their feet. A player must not make the ball unplayable by falling down. Unplayable means that the ball is not immediately available to either team so that play may continue.
                                                          A player who makes the ball unplayable, or who obstructs the opposing team by falling down, is negating the purpose and Spirit of the Game and must be penalised.
                                                          A player who is not tackled, but who goes to ground while holding the ball, or a player who goes to ground and gathers the ball, must act immediately.

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                                                          • G
                                                            Gunner last edited by

                                                            Sheesh, did you see the motor on that Counties prop who was just subbed?

                                                            Sponsored by Big Ben?

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                                                            • G
                                                              Gunner last edited by Gunner

                                                              Wow, big call there.

                                                              Didn't look forward to me in real time.

                                                              Edit, yea it probably was forward.
                                                              Big ups to the ref for backing himself.

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                                                              • Crucial
                                                                Crucial @Gunner last edited by

                                                                @Gunner said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                                Wow, big call there.

                                                                Didn't look forward to me in real time.

                                                                Edit, yea it probably was forward.
                                                                Big ups to the ref for backing himself.

                                                                I think the call was from the sideline. I had suspicions in real time.

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                                                                • mikedogz
                                                                  mikedogz @Crucial last edited by

                                                                  @Crucial excellent with his kicks

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                                                                  • Crucial
                                                                    Crucial @mikedogz last edited by

                                                                    @mikedogz said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                                    @Crucial excellent with his kicks

                                                                    Box kicking accuracy seems to be a strength. I have a suspicion the AB selectors may like that.

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                                                                    • Crucial
                                                                      Crucial last edited by

                                                                      NH look to have done a lot of work on running lines near the tackle. They are using their big guys well to make ground running at weak shoulders

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                                                                      • Crucial
                                                                        Crucial last edited by

                                                                        Parsons looks screwed

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                                                                          Gunner last edited by Gunner

                                                                          Hilton Jones bombed a try there.

                                                                          Good Northland name that. Can't be a common name, must be connected to the ones from up here?

                                                                          In fact I have a colleague who is a Hilton Jones, I shall find out!

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                                                                          • mikedogz
                                                                            mikedogz last edited by

                                                                            Counties scrum gone to shit. I expect more from a good Onewhero man, Bagshaw.

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                                                                            • mikedogz
                                                                              mikedogz last edited by

                                                                              Counties have gone backwards since last year. Leger is promising and handy with his left boot.

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                                                                              • Crucial
                                                                                Crucial @mikedogz last edited by

                                                                                @mikedogz said in Counties Manukau v North Harbour:

                                                                                Counties have gone backwards since last year. Leger is promising and handy with his left boot.

                                                                                Agree. A unsettled back row and centres are contributing to that though. It is like every game is a new one rather than building from one to the other.

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                                                                                • Crucial
                                                                                  Crucial last edited by

                                                                                  @Stockcar86 put this in the wrong thread

                                                                                  @Stockcar86 said in 2016 World Sevens Series:

                                                                                  Whats with the ref unwilling to blow penalties at scrum time. That Counties #8 was facing his own try line picking up that try the scrum had screwed so much

                                                                                  I agree with that example but more worryingly is that is seems to be a directive this year across all rugby to not apply reward to a dominant scrum if the ball can get out.
                                                                                  I am probably one of the culprits that disliked the imbalance of 'scrumming for penalties' but I think they have swung a bit far the other way.
                                                                                  I just seem to see in nearly every game a team getting their arse handed to them at a scrum but coming out of it almost in a better position.

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                                                                                  • Bovidae
                                                                                    Bovidae last edited by

                                                                                    The scrum battle came down to who had their first-choice props on the field. Manu dominated Mafileo but when Tamoaieta replaced him Harbour was in control against the C-M reserve props.

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