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    2017 Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament

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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

      The next crop of New Zealand’s rugby stars will be on display in the Jock Hobbs Memorial National Under 19 Tournament from September 10-16.
      
      THE TEAMS
      Graham Mourie Cup (Premiership): Auckland, North Harbour, Bay of Plenty, Waikato, Wellington, Manawatu, Tasman, Canterbury
      
      Michael Jones Trophy (Championship): Auckland Development, Northland, Taranaki, Counties Manukau, Hawke’s Bay, Heartland, Otago, Southland
      

      First round draw (Sunday 10 September)

      Premiership: Graham Mourie Cup

      Waikato v Tasman, 10.45am
      North Harbour v Wellington, 12.30pm
      Bay of Plenty v Canterbury, 2.15pm
      Auckland v Manawatu, 4pm

      Championship: Michael Jones Trophy

      Northland v Hawke’s Bay, 10.45am
      Counties Manukau v Otago, 12.30pm
      Auckland Development v Heartland, 2.15pm
      Taranaki v Southland, 4pm

      LIVE COVERAGE
      Four matches are scheduled to be screened LIVE on Sky Sport. These matches are:

      Saturday 16 September:
      12pm: 11th place playoff (teams TBC)
      1.40pm: 3rd place play off (teams TBC)
      3.20pm: Sir Michael Jones Trophy final (teams TBC)
      5.00pm: Graham Mourie Cup final (teams TBC)

      For live scores, photos and news from the tournament, follow the National Under 19s Facebook page.

      http://www.allblacks.com/News/31350/preview-jock-hobbs-memorial-national-under-19-tournament

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        • Stargazer
          Stargazer last edited by

          This is the official tournament programme (pdf). It contains all the squad lists.

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          • Higgins
            Higgins last edited by Higgins

            Looking through the squads some teams appear to be stacked numbers wise in certain positions and somewhat bare in others indicating there must be quite a number of versatile players that can play in more than one area on the field. In a way that is quite good as at this age it can be a little difficult to say a player is a specialist in this particular spot when they are still growing and maturing into their bodies and developing new skills along the way. This probably applies more in the backs but can also apply to forwards where a prop at Under 19s might not grow any more and end up as a hooker or flanker later in life. The same could also be said of a late growth spurt could turn a flanker into a lock or vice versa.

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            • Tim
              Tim last edited by

              Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament 2017: players to watch

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              • Stargazer
                Stargazer last edited by

                DAY ONE RESULTS:

                Premiership: Graham Mourie Cup
                Waikato 28, Tasman 11
                North Harbour 30, Wellington 27
                Bay of Plenty 21, Canterbury 23
                Auckland 71, Manawatu 5

                Championship: Michael Jones Trophy
                Northland 14, Hawke’s Bay 25
                Counties Manukau 15, Otago 13
                Auckland Development 16, Heartland 19
                Taranaki 28, Southland 32

                DAY TWO DRAW (Wednesday 13 September)

                Michael Jones Trophy
                10.45am: Northland v Otago
                12.30pm: Auckland Development v Taranaki
                2.15pm: Hawke’s Bay v Counties Manukau (semifinal)
                4.00pm: Heartland v Southland (semifinal)

                Graham Mourie Cup
                10.45am: Tasman v Wellington
                12.30pm: Bay of Plenty v Manawatu
                2.15pm: Waikato v North Harbour (semifinal)
                4.00pm: Canterbury v Auckland (semifinal)

                http://www.allblacks.com/News/31390/north-harbour-shine-on-day-one-in-taupo

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                    • Tim
                      Tim last edited by Tim

                      Looks like it'll be a replay of last year's Auckland/Waikato final.

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                      • Tim
                        Tim @Tim last edited by

                        @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                        44 - 10 final score, apparently.

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                        • Duluth
                          Duluth @Tim last edited by

                          @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                          @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                          44 - 10 final score, apparently.

                          Plummer got a couple of tries and scored 29 points

                          Surprised at the lack of footage from any of these games

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                            Stargazer @Duluth last edited by

                            @Duluth said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                            @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                            @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                            44 - 10 final score, apparently.

                            Plummer got a couple of tries and scored 29 points

                            Surprised at the lack of footage from any of these games

                            Apparently, only 4 games being televised (this Sunday) has to do with the costs involved. Read that on one of the official FB feeds.

                            Thus far, they have also televised fewer women's NPC games than previous years and not any Heartland games. Also, fewer schoolboys games. I guess it has all to do with the Lions tour?

                            Still, that doesn't explain why these games aren't livestreamed. Most of the Heartland games are.

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                            • Tim
                              Tim last edited by

                              Saturday 16th September:
                              10.45am - Auckland Dev v Northland (15th/16th)
                              5pm - Auckland A v Waikato (1st/2nd) LIVE on SS3

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                              • Stargazer
                                Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                Day Two Results

                                Play off matches
                                Tasman 38 – Wellington 26
                                Bay of Plenty 54 – Manawatu 7
                                Otago 52 – Northland 9
                                Taranaki 34 - Auckland Development 26

                                Michael Jones Trophy
                                Counties Manukau 20 - Hawkes Bay 3
                                Southland 36 – Heartland 8

                                Graham Mourie Cup
                                Waikato 27 - North Harbour 20
                                Auckland 44 – Canterbury 10

                                Day Three Draw (Saturday, 16 September)
                                Play off matches
                                10.45am: Northland v Auckland Development (15th/16th)
                                12.00pm: Hawke’s Bay v Heartland (11th/12th)*
                                12.30pm: Otago v Taranaki (13th/14th)
                                1.40pm: North Harbour v Canterbury (3rd/4th)*
                                2.15pm: Wellington v Manawatu (7th/8th)
                                4.00pm: Tasman v Bay of Plenty (5th/6th)

                                Michael Jones Trophy Final
                                3.20pm Counties Manukau v Southland*

                                Graham Mourie Cup Final
                                5pm Waikato v Auckland*

                                *Matches to be broadcast on Sky Sport 3

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                                • Tim
                                  Tim last edited by

                                  After recording an opening day win over Manawatu, 71-5, where second-five Harry Plummer plundered 21-points (9C, 1P) from the boot, there was no slip-up in the semi-final against Canterbury. Led by 29-points (2T, 5C, 3P) from Plummer, there was no threat of the occasion getting to the young Auckland side.

                                  U19s in repeat of 2016 final at Jock Hobbs Memorial Tournament

                                  U19s in repeat of 2016 final at Jock Hobbs Memorial Tournament

                                  Following the dismantling of Canterbury, 44-10, in their semi-final yesterday, the Auckland U19As will do battle with...

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                                  • Stargazer
                                    Stargazer last edited by

                                    Southland under-19 prop Kaydis Hona was suspended from all rugby for four weeks after getting a red card for a dangerous tackle in his team's match against Taranaki on Sunday in the national tournament in Taupo.
                                    
                                    It meant he missed Southland's win over the Heartland XV on Wednesday and will also miss Saturday's Michael Jones Cup final against Counties Manukau.
                                    
                                    Meanwhile, Canterbury under-19 player Tom Christie received a one game suspension for striking an Auckland player in the game played on Wednesday.
                                    

                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/96894336/southland-stags-wing-ryan-tongia-handed-one-game-suspension

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                                    • mimic
                                      mimic last edited by

                                      Auckland A currently leading Waikato 27-12..
                                      Waikato have looked dangerous but just can't finish..

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                                        mimic last edited by

                                        and Waikato scores lol..
                                        27-17 with the kick to come

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                                        • mimic
                                          mimic last edited by

                                          These Auckland boys need to learn the art of killing time..
                                          Poor kick by Plummer

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                                            Tim @mimic last edited by

                                            @mimic How long to go?

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                                            • mimic
                                              mimic last edited by

                                              7 minutes left..
                                              Auckland 27-17 Waikato

                                              Auckland could've easily burned off 2 minutes.. But they'll learn..

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                                                mimic last edited by

                                                Auckland 30-17 Waikato

                                                5 minutes left

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                                                • mimic
                                                  mimic last edited by

                                                  Auckland win 30-17

                                                  Thats 4 different winners in 4 years of this tournament,

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                                                  • Tim
                                                    Tim last edited by Tim

                                                    Apparently Harbour beat Canterbury in the 3rd/4th play-off.

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                                                    • Tim
                                                      Tim last edited by

                                                      Auckland openside flanker Sione Talitui was player of the tournament.

                                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/96916512/auckland-beat-waikato-to-become-fourth-different-winner-of-the-graham-mourie-cup

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                                                      • Tim
                                                        Tim last edited by

                                                        Plummer played 12 in the final.

                                                        Auckland clinches first Jock Hobbs U19 title

                                                        Auckland clinches first Jock Hobbs U19 title

                                                        Auckland is the new champion of the Jock Hobbs Memorial National Under 19 tournament in Taupo. Andrew Hewetson’s ...

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                                                          KiwiMurph @Tim last edited by

                                                          @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                                                          Auckland openside flanker Sione Talitui was player of the tournament.

                                                          He is also known as Sione Havili. Has played for Auckland and won the Bronze Boot in last year's NZ Schools v Aussie Schools game.

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                                                            Hooroo last edited by

                                                            Funny story. We were at the pub and we're told that Auckland were 30 points better than Waikato and that Auckland -4 was paying $1:85. We jumped all over it and the guy who gave us the tip was back of queue and they closed the option before he got to bet on it. Ha ha

                                                            He was spewing. Had to take the head to head odds of $1:50.

                                                            He called it a money print bet and it really was.

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                                                            • mimic
                                                              mimic @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                              @KiwiMurph said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                                                              @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                                                              Auckland openside flanker Sione Talitui was player of the tournament.

                                                              He is also known as Sione Havili. Has played for Auckland and won the Bronze Boot in last year's NZ Schools v Aussie Schools game.

                                                              Taufa Sione Talitui Havili is his name I think..
                                                              Another product of the Auckland Grammar Scholarship system..

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                                                              • Duluth
                                                                Duluth @Tim last edited by Duluth

                                                                @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

                                                                Plummer played 12 in the final.

                                                                Best use of resources getting him and Wiseguy on the field. I thought Wiseguy overplayed the cute short kicks/cross kicks. Auckland would have done better with a more conservative territory game IMO. Waikato did well living off the risky plays that went wrong.
                                                                Plummers goal kicking was a bit off in the final

                                                                The blindside Hoskins Sotutu (son of) had some great touches in open play

                                                                That was a dominant tournament from Auckland 145 points in 3 games.

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                                                                • Tim
                                                                  Tim @Duluth last edited by

                                                                  @Duluth I'm quite glad to see that he plays 12 too, as it may indicate that he has the physical ability to step up at pro level.

                                                                  cf. Anscombe played 10 in the NZ U20 team that had Sopoaga at 12 and Barrett at 15.

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                                                                  • Duluth
                                                                    Duluth @Tim last edited by

                                                                    @Tim

                                                                    He's been doing it at club level too. Grammar TEC sometimes had 9 Milo-Harris 10 Jono Hickey 12 Plummer

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                                                                      African Monkey @mimic last edited by

                                                                      @mimic Quite liked the look of him when he played a bit of Mitre 10 Cup. Hope to see more of them blooded before the season's over.

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                                                                        98blueandgold last edited by 98blueandgold

                                                                        Watched a litttle bit of the tournament. with that in mind here is a possible squad going into next years under 20 WC. Obviously might be a bit off, also includes any playing in Mitre 10.
                                                                        Auckland pretty dominant, just too big really. Was disappointed with Wiseguy though.

                                                                        Props

                                                                        Sione Asi (Manawatu)
                                                                        Tim Farrell (Hawkes Bay)
                                                                        Robb Cobb (Auckland)
                                                                        Xavier Numia (Wellington)
                                                                        Ben Aumua-Peseta (Wellington)

                                                                        Hookers

                                                                        Flynn Thomas (Southland)
                                                                        Jacob Devery (Hawkes Bay)
                                                                        Ricky Jackson (Otago)
                                                                        Tuipolotou Tapa (Waikato)

                                                                        Locks
                                                                        Lachlan Mc Whannell (Waikato)
                                                                        Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa (Auckland)
                                                                        Will Tucker (Canterbury)
                                                                        Cameron Suafoa (Auckland)

                                                                        Loose Fowards

                                                                        Tom Florence (Taranaki)
                                                                        AJ Mua (BOP)
                                                                        Tom Cristie (Canterbury)
                                                                        Brayden Iose (Manawatu)
                                                                        Hoskin Sotutu (Auckland)
                                                                        Nathan Vaatausili (North Harbour)
                                                                        Slade McDowall (Otago)
                                                                        Isiah Miller (Tasman)

                                                                        HalfBack

                                                                        Carlos Price (Wellington)
                                                                        Jay Renton (Southland)
                                                                        Tim Hogan (Otago)

                                                                        1stV

                                                                        Cairahn Matoe (Taranaki)
                                                                        Harry Plummer (Auckland)
                                                                        Kaleb Trask (BOP)

                                                                        Midfield

                                                                        Scott Gregory (Northland)
                                                                        Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
                                                                        Tanielu Tele'a (Auckland)
                                                                        Ngane Puinavai (Canterbury)
                                                                        Billy Proctor (Wellington)

                                                                        Outside

                                                                        Caleb Clarke (Auckland)
                                                                        Will Jordan (Tasman)
                                                                        Bailey Simonsson (BOP)
                                                                        Siave Togoiu (Auckland)
                                                                        Viliami Koroi (Otago)
                                                                        Jamie Spowat (Tasman)

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