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    MotM vs South Africa II

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      hydro11 last edited by Duluth

      3 votes as usual.

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      • Bones
        Bones last edited by

        Coles, Cane, Crotty. Because, "C".

        All busy as fuck and huge on defence, while not doing anything horrid elsewhere. Cane fell off one or two but was flying around the floor at blokes ankles on several occasions. Crotty shut down a lot. Coles a workhorse.

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        • Kruse
          Kruse last edited by

          Marx

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          • Bovidae
            Bovidae last edited by

            Hames, Whitelock and DMac.

            SBW made a bucketload of tackles but his attacking game was poor.

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              DMX @Bovidae last edited by

              @bovidae

              Exact same as me, also agree half of SBW's game was good and NMS was good for a half.

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                ARHS last edited by

                For me Dmac, Crotty and Hames - Squire close

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                  hydro11 last edited by

                  D Mac, Crotty and Reiko. It's rare for me not to vote for a forward but I just didn't think any of them stood out today. Scott Barrett and Whitelock were the pick of the forwards for me.

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                  • KiwiMurph
                    KiwiMurph last edited by

                    Im a huge Cane fan but didnt stand out to me.

                    Read, Coles and Dmac my picks.

                    Havili and Ofa the best of the bench.

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                    • Chris B.
                      Chris B. last edited by

                      Whitelock, Read and Crotty all prominent, DMac as well.

                      Lots of pretty early substitutions probably rule out a lot of contenders compared to those who played 90 minutes. Most people were pretty good, no-one poor.

                      Of my Makos men, I thought Squire was a bit quiet early on - stationed on the flank and the ball didn't seem to go his way, but came into his own as the game wore on. Hames did much better than in SA.v1 - a pretty serviceable test. Dreyer seems to be one of those props who's not particularly good, but has some tricks that make him awkward until he's worked out.

                      Havili having a dream start to his AB career - have to admit I had some doubts and thought Super rugby was probably his ceiling. More than solid for probably 5th choice fullback. Pretty pleased we didn't see him in the midfield, though.

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                      • Stargazer
                        Stargazer @Chris B. last edited by

                        @chris-b IMO Havili is pretty good in the midfield; he proved that in SR in 2016 when they finally started picking him over Fonotia. I think, the reason why it didn't work in this year's Crusaders games, had nothing to do with him, and everything to do with Crotty not playing. If it had been Goodhue who was injured instead of Crotty, and they'd played Crotty and Havili as a combo, the team would have played better in those games. The Crusaders, and also the All Blacks in the games without Crotty, struggled due to his absence.

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                        • Chris B.
                          Chris B. @Stargazer last edited by Chris B.

                          @stargazer I think Dave's solid enough in the midfield - the selectors obviously thought so and, given Crotty's a bit of an injury magnet at present, there's a reasonable probability that he might have had to play substantial minutes there.

                          BUT - he really only covers second-five. He's probably played centre at some point for someone, but I can't say I recall it. so if Crotty went down, SBW would probably have moved to centre (unless Ioane did) - a bit more disruption.

                          In terms of Havili as a midfielder, I can probably come up with 10 options I'd prefer to see playing there.

                          In approximate order: Crotty, SBW, ALB, Laumape, Goodhue, Ngatai, Tamanivalu, Ioane, Buckman, maybe Bateman, Moala, Thompson.

                          Some of the later ones are much of a muchness with DH and he gets credit for being so good in the AB jersey so far! 🙂 The first six I've got as being a long way better, though.

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                          • ACT Crusader
                            ACT Crusader last edited by

                            Crotty, Skudder and Whitelock.

                            DMac, Laulala and Ioane the next best.

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                              cgrant last edited by

                              I went for Squire, Crotty and DMac. Squire's drives were powerful and he did not slipped many tackles.
                              Everything Crotty did was OK, as usual.
                              DMac, except one knock on, was outstanding.
                              BB and NMS were very good till they left the field.
                              Ofa T produced another very solid performance while Havili was decisive.

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                                hydro11 last edited by

                                Top 10 after RC:

                                Retallick 169
                                Cane 155
                                A. Smith 111
                                R. Ioane 109
                                Read 107
                                D Mac 84
                                Whitelock 74
                                Moody 68
                                B. Barrett 64
                                Laulala 62

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