Blues 2019



  • @Nogusta And looks like Ben Nee-Nee is the injury replacement for Goodhue/Pierce.

    Any word on how long Goodhue is out for?



  • @Tim not too sure bout that. Cameron Suafoa also brought in to cover lock/loose forward. Has been training with the Blues the poast couple of weeks. Big strong ball running forward, decent lineout option. Member of the winning Akl U19s team in 2017. Was in strong contention for the NZ20s last year but a dislocated shoulder in preseason scuppered that. Counties Manukau were very keen on him this year for Mitre 10 but hes opted to stay in Auckland on a lesser deal.





  • Good!



  • Yeah not so much rest rules, as guidelines!



  • So, I've been thinking about our season so far, and what success will look like. It's not winning the comp, or even making the playoffs - I think our bar is lower than that. We've lost a game we should have won (Crusaders). Got smoked physically by teh Shorks, and then played stupid rugby against the Jaguares.

    Since coming home, though, we've shown resilience. I don't think we've played well, and our set piece is a real worry, but we're playing with some heart, commitment and the semblence of a team pattern. I like it a lot.

    For me, if we can achieve the following 5 things in the rest of the comp I'd be happy.

    1. Figure out who our 9-10 is. And stick with them. And if the 9 isn't in the squad, then make damn sure we find a prospect. I've been impressed with Ruru generally, but he's no superstar.

    2. Keep up the coaching.
      Self evident, but you're seeing a good coach get the best out of the players. Nanai looks a different player to the one Tana and JK had. Players seem to be growing and know what their roles are - and the longer good coaches have players, the better they seem to get.

    3. Stop losing players
      anyone really think Nanai would be going overseas if he'd had these coaches last season? Good coaches will retain talent... it's a 2-4 year timeline for us to plug gaps and develop players. Auckland region has the players in the borders - we just have to be credible as a place to play to attract the good ones.

    4. Identify gaps in the squad, and fill them
      I think previous coaches could do the first, but not the second. I mean, who'd go to the Blues? Once we get credibility back, we're a long way down that path.

    5. Finish the year on the up
      We're going to drop some games in a stupid way I think - but all we need going into the offseason is to have some momentum and belief that we're getting better and going to be more competitive next year.

    All this, of course, is predicated on the Board continuing to do a good job and sort out teh front office. It's great to see, and I think if they keep this up they'll lay foundations for a long term healthy organisation.

    To be clear - we're a very very long way from the finished product, but I am pretty happy with the progress I'm seeing. Now I'm just waiting for a catstrophic injury or two, and a classic implosion 🙂



  • @KiwiMurph it's a shame the bye week didn't apply in the case of Tele'as suspension! Its really a 5 week suspension if he can only return on 10th May.



  • A puff piece on Caleb Clarke. That was a great comeback match after injury and a couple of sub par games last year. The try celebration was a good touch



  • Gibson and SBW unavailable for the next two games at least (Chiefs & Highlanders)





  • @Stargazer they must be enjoying their time in the environment eh 🙂



  • @nzzp It's really good news. Gives some stability in the squad. You'd have to wonder for how many years they've re-signed Parsons though. No media release on the website yet.



  • @Stargazer said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp It's really good news. Gives some stability in the squad. You'd have to wonder for how many years they've re-signed Parsons though. No media release on the website yet.

    aw crap, missed that.

    I like Parsons, but he's physically too small for this level. God loves a trier, but he just gets ragdolled too often



  • The Super Seven comprise James Parsons, TJ Faiane, Sione Mafileo, Otere Black, Tom Robinson and Stephen Perofeta, who will continue at the Blues until 2021, while young star Caleb Clarke has signed until 2022.

    https://theblues.co.nz/super-7-extend-their-stay/



  • I have no problem with Parsons getting another contract. 15 hookers get contracts and to be honest there aren't 15 good options in NZ

    Hopefully we recruit another one and he drops back to 2nd or 3rd choice



  • With the contract duration: all signed through to 2021, except Clarke (2022).

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  • Excellent news.

    I wonder if Perofeta will be looked at as a 15 option next year as a replacement for Nanai.



  • @Duluth yep thats the thing...he is a great guy to have in your squad, but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

    As I said in the Blues/tahs thread, he is a trier, he gets through alot of work, is reasonably accurate but is pretty passive, doesnt get beyond the gain line much, makes alot of tackles, but these are almost like he is just a speed bump tripping the guy over 😉 ...he is 3rd top tackler for the Blues...that said, Blues seem content to continue using him as a ball runner despite his lack of punch...



  • @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

    but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

    I agree

    But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.



  • @Duluth for sure...Apisai I can understand, but based on what I have heard about Moulds over the years, I cannot understand them sitting him out as much as they do, more so the area of his game that was an issue is no worse than Parsons when you look at the upside with the rest of Moulds game vs Parsons.

    As I have said before, something just doesnt add up, so not sure what is up there and I have heard he is likely to head off anyway...always thought it odd how little they used him, yet they kept offering him contracts and he kept signing them...





  • @taniwharugby
    Moulds probably signed before Parsons in previous years, only to find he’s stuck behind the captain. Now they have two captains that are either injured or standing down for AB’s, so Parsons is still sometimes captain.



  • @KiwiMurph Yeah I was thinking that unless we recruit someone to replace Nanai.

    Does that mean Nock, Collins, Apisai and Tupou are gone after this year?



  • @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

    but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

    I agree

    But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

    Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂



  • @Chris-B said in Blues 2019:

    @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

    but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

    I agree

    But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

    Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

    me too!!





  • If Moulds is off, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Abel back.



  • Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

    Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?



  • IIRC, these are the 18 players who are signed for next year:

    Prop
    Alex Hodgman
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    Karl Tu’inukuafe
    Sione Mafileo

    Hooker
    James Parsons

    Lock
    Patrick Tuipulotu

    Loose Forward
    Blake Gibson
    Dalton Papali'i
    Akira Ioane
    Hoskins Sotutu
    Tom Robinson

    Halfback

    1st 5
    Otere Black
    Harry Plummer
    Stephen Perofeta

    Midfield
    Tanielu Tele’a
    TJ Faiane

    Wing/Fullback
    Rieko Ioane
    Caleb Clarke

    --

    Tele'a has the physical ability. Will be interesting to see how he goes after a season of Super Rugby. Hopefully he'll get some good game time in the NPC.



  • @Tim Don't forget Luteru Tolai in your mix of hooker prospects. I was impressed by him in the 2 dev. games I saw. He is only 20 years old but is a big powerful unit (119kgs). Hopefully he can get enough minutes playing behind Parsons at harbour to develop his game and for us to assess him properly.



  • @Daffy-Jaffy Had no idea he was that young.



  • @Tim Just googled to check if my memory was right - born -Jun 1, 1998.



  • @Daffy-Jaffy He's a converted hooker too as he spent all his school years playing in the back row.



  • @Tim said in Blues 2019:

    Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

    Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?

    Maybe GPT is in the mix too?

    His form has been all over the place. We might see improvements with a NPC season under Tiatia then Coventry at SR level

    No idea what his contract situation is. Canterbury NPC last year, but it appears he has no fully pro contract (he was in that 'World XV' that played the Force recently)





  • @Duluth Is that article saying that one mistake, that didn't cost the game, is the reason he won't make the AB's this year?

    He's been named in the training squad of 51?



  • @Hooroo

    Yes, it's overstating the importance of that error

    He isn't in the squad

    The Tahs going down the blindside was really obvious though. Plummer had come on for Rieko.. I doubt he played much wing before and he was getting advice from team mates on where to stand.
    Robinson should have been expecting the Tahs to go down that side



  • haha the moment his AB quest came to an end...NZ Media started his AB quest this year, and now they are ending it.

    He was (and I guess still is given the nature of the game) a very rank outsider to make the ABs this season, odds would be less if not a RWC year. but I'd rather have him tearing shit up for Northland this year.



  • @taniwharugby I don’t believe he was ever in the picture,people have got to remember even if you think back to his time with the Taniwha,I would doubt very much if he has played any more than 12 games in the number 6 jersey,add in several for the Blues this season,that’s around 20 x games in the 6 jersey at Mitre & Super level..talking about learning on the Job,when he was originally selected for Northland it was as lock who could fill in at 6..
    The great thing is,I see heaps more improvement in Robinson,Saturday’s night,sure he got caught out on the blindside,but that will come with experience..personally I think it’s the writer who may jumped to conclusions




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