AB EOYT 2018



  • @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    I see Jordan is getting a lot of support - he's always struck me as a bit flaky previously (like McNicholl) and I'm surprised to see him being promoted ahead of Ennor. But I've watched fuck all NPC.

    You won't have seen much of him, then. 🙂

    Paul Cully is on the Jordan bandwagon.

    I'd be a bit surprised if he makes the Japan squad, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

    Yeah sure, but I thought Ennor was impressive. Hasn't kicked on?



  • @bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.

    He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.

    Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.

    I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.



  • @chris-b what was Jordan doing during super rugby?



  • @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @chris-b what was Jordan doing during super rugby?

    Out with concussion from previous year's NPC.



  • @bones He had concussion issues and was kept away.

    Bridge should take NMS role in the EOYT squad. I'd like to see Bridge tried at 14 in the 'second fullback' role.



  • Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....



  • @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones Haven't watched much of him in the NPC.

    He went OK in Super rugby, but it didn't remotely cross my mind that he was ready to step up to the ABs.

    Bridge and Mataele were the ones who were more impressive for the Crusaders - but, what I've seen of Mataele in NPC - he's been pretty awful.

    I would pick Bridge ahead of all of them.

    Mataele has been struggling with injuries right from the start of the season, so he hasn't really had regular game time. It's no surprise that he hasn't impressed much. "Awful" is an exaggeration IMO.



  • @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

    Ennor has been very good this year. Got a few opportunities in Super rugby and played well and has continued to up his game. Not sure if he’s an AB, but given some of the names being thrown around....

    Yeah that was my thinking.



  • Reading between the lines this will be the core 32 man squad and not the additionals for the Japan test.

    The #AllBlacks squad for the Vista 2018 Northern Tour will be named on Monday.
    


  • @kiwimurph yeah I guess they'll await injuries etc in the NPC finals before confirming



  • All answered here:



  • Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.



  • @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

    Cheers for that, "... between 18, 19 players..." So 18 and a half players.

    18 players and a halfback



  • Using the RC squad as a starting point, they originally named 33 players.

    Hookers
    Dane Coles
    Nathan Harris
    Codie Taylor

    Props
    Owen Franks
    Joe Moody
    Tim Perry
    Karl Tu'inukuafe
    Ofa Tuungafasi

    Locks
    Scott Barrett
    Brodie Retallick
    Samuel Whitelock

    Loose Forwards
    Sam Cane --> Dillon Hunt
    Shannon Frizell
    Jackson Hemopo
    Kieran Read
    Ardie Savea
    Liam Squire
    Luke Whitelock

    Halfbacks
    TJ Perenara
    Aaron Smith
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi

    First five-eighths
    Beauden Barrett
    Damian McKenzie
    Richie Mo'unga

    Midfielders
    Ryan Crotty
    Jack Goodhue
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Sonny Bill Williams

    Outside backs
    Jordie Barrett
    Rieko Ioane
    Nehe Milner-Skudder
    Waisake Naholo
    Ben Smith

    So one player has to miss out, probably Hemopo. There might be a temptation to find a place for Tuipulotu so there are 4 locks. That would have to be at the expense of a loose forward (Frizell or L Whitelock) or an outside back (NMS).



  • @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.



  • @98blueandgold said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @akan004 I feel the other way in games I watched. Didn't rate strange until this season, has impressesed with physicality I didn't think he had.

    Was impressed with his play in Super Rugby but not so much in the NPC so far. Perhaps Parkinson has just stood out more, for me anyway.



  • @bovidae That will be pretty close.

    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.



  • @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bovidae That will be pretty close.

    I wonder whether NMS holds his place. They've hardly used him and the back three look pretty thin compared to the past.

    NMS must either be carving it up in training, or holding incriminating photos to still be there. Surely the three wise men see something in him that we're missing - I'd be stoked to be proved wrong, but he ain't NMS v2015.



  • @nzzp I think the real selectors are just generally a bit more conservative than the armchair selectors, when it comes to dropping the axe on players. Don't want to be calling up, discarding, recalling....etc.

    So they give their players plenty of rope.

    But if they're going to introduce new players into the mix before RWC, they're pretty close to the last chance saloon. And, I think NMS has been in both the France and Rugby Championship squads - and they've given him one game. Which doesn't seem like a huge vote of confidence.



  • Even though NMS is lucky to be in the AB squad I wouldn't be selecting a replacement for him in the 32. That's what Hansen is going to do with the extra 18.5 players, bring them into camp for a closer look and give some an opportunity vs Japan.

    The likes of NMS, Hemopo and Akira will have 2 bites at the cherry as they can play for the Maori in their later games if not on the AB tour.