HBO - Chernobyl
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This is shaping up as another excellent series in terms of production quality. Not sure it's going to do the cause of nuclear power much good. Hopefully it's accurate.
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Already know the ending. Gendry wins.
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Episode 5 is the best of them IMO. Covers the trial and timeline of disastrous decisions in the safety test in the lead up to the explosion and explanation.
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@antipodean said in HBO - Chernobyl:
Episode 5 is the best of them IMO. Covers the trial and timeline of disastrous decisions in the safety test in the lead up to the explosion and explanation.
Yeah it was brilliant, was great when Legasov showed how every action relates to balancing the reactor. Heat vs Cold. The blue plates and red plates.
Sad end to someone who played a huge role in saving countless lives.
Brilliant series recommend it -
@antipodean yep, was a very good series, the ep with the pets hit me, but that final ep was good too, but different good.
@Virgil yeah the red/blue demonstration was excellent, I might now become a Nuclear scientist.
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@taniwharugby said in HBO - Chernobyl:
@antipodean yep, was a very good series, the ep with the pets hit me, but that final ep was good too, but different good.
@Virgil yeah the red/blue demonstration was excellent, I might now become a Nuclear scientist.
Pretty sure aft watching the series we are just as qualified as the guys running the power plant that night..
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I ended up watching eps 1,2,3. Someone asked me if it was sad, and I said nope, I just felt rage at the lies and cover ups and everything is fine bullshit despite the fact that people's faces were literally melting. But those who did the worst jobs imaginable were so stoic. The guys who had to open the sluice gate. Pitch black, radioactive water, torches going out, wearing heavy claustrophobic suits that wouldn't protect them...
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@Mokey said in HBO - Chernobyl:
I ended up watching eps 1,2,3. Someone asked me if it was sad, and I said nope, I just felt rage at the lies and cover ups and everything is fine bullshit despite the fact that people's faces were literally melting. But those who did the worst jobs imaginable were so stoic. The guys who had to open the sluice gate. Pitch black, radioactive water, torches going out, wearing heavy claustrophobic suits that wouldn't protect them...
Looked into the guys who went below to open up the sluice gates. Despite reports of them dying soon after from the effects of the radiation they intact lived well after the disaster, at least 1 is apparently still alive today. Amazing really
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@Mokey said in HBO - Chernobyl:
I ended up watching eps 1,2,3. Someone asked me if it was sad, and I said nope, I just felt rage at the lies and cover ups and everything is fine bullshit despite the fact that people's faces were literally melting. But those who did the worst jobs imaginable were so stoic. The guys who had to open the sluice gate. Pitch black, radioactive water, torches going out, wearing heavy claustrophobic suits that wouldn't protect them...
Oh and did you enjoy the miners especially once it go too hot for them to work...
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@Virgil Hahaha that bit was funny.
Watched 4 and 5 today. 4 got me a bit in the feels with the puppies, but 5 was absolutely fascinating in terms of explaining nuclear shit and the whole timeline. The stats at the end were pretty frightening. As for those three fuckers only getting 10 years...
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@Mokey said in HBO - Chernobyl:
As for those three fuckers only getting 10 years...
Yes that seems remarkably lenient for a country that sent people to the gulags on mere suspicion.
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@Mokey said in HBO - Chernobyl:
@Virgil Hahaha that bit was funny.
New characters in one of your novels perhaps??
Also how horrific was the make up with the guys dying from radiation? Horribly way to suffer and die.
Since watching I looked into what’s happened since. That new incasement they have built is amazing, it was constructed onsite and slid over the old reactor, perfectly fitting around the various shapes and dimensions of the structure.
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@Virgil the make up effects will surely win awards. Among many others. Tbh I was a bit surprised that no one offered those poor guys a quick humane exit. When the Prof described what radiation death is like, I just thought ffs someone help them die now, before they reach the point of mortal agony.
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@MN5 said in HBO - Chernobyl:
All finished up, defintiely a good watch.
1980's Russia looked like some depressing dystopian future setting, fuck living in a country like that.
I see there's still no clear number on exactly how many people died as a result of all this.
A lot.
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@MN5 said in HBO - Chernobyl:
All finished up, defintiely a good watch.
1980's Russia looked like some depressing dystopian future setting, fuck living in a country like that.
I see there's still no clear number on exactly how many people died as a result of all this.
31 apparently 😳
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Jesus that was a good show!
Thoroughly recommend the 5 HBO podcasts with Craig Mazin (writer). he explains the true stuff and the dramatic, which is relatively sparse, and the pace of the podcasts is excellent and each one for about an hour.
By all accounts a true picture of Soviet goings on in that time. Easy to forget when i was a lad the Russian fishermen would be always in 3s and we'd try to guess which one was the KGB. They were good for bags of dodgy lollies and some pidgin english conversations though.
Overall a timely reminder of what happens when a society (ideology) denies the truth on a large scale. Lies and manipulation of the truth (statecraft, circle of accountability) brought down a world super power and now days we've got politicians and activists pleading for the same...pure ignorance.
However, is there any other way to foster such selfless patriotism than total authoritarianism? Only Russia could have facilitated this disaster and only Russia could have facilitated the fixing and resolution of this disaster - crazy
Anyway, well done makers.
Check those podcasts if you have a penchant for them
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Yeah read Russia's War by Richard Overy - at the same time as Stalin is slaughtering his people, crippling his army, and there was so much bollaux - the sheer ferocity and patriotism, stoicism against all odds of the USSR in WW2 was amazing. People are weird!
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Damn that was well done! Not a whole lot of movies or TV about the red menace great to see something finally come through and done so well. Whole sections seem to be right out of Jordan Peterson lectures. Hope the success of this leads to more acknowledgement of these horrors of the past (they actually mentioned the Holodomor!). We have a number of people extremely close to power now who hold these same beliefs would be nice for the average person on the street to realise there isn't a lot of difference between the swastika and the hammer and sickle.
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This series nudged me to read some books on Chernobyl. Most of the way through this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HVPI1IA/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0It's written by Dr James Mahaffey of Georgia Tech. Very well researched, he knows his stuff, and has a very good writing style. Strongly recommend it to anyone interested in a bit more depth on nuclear.
It's actually made me more relaxed about nuclear power, kind of like watchign cross wind landings made me more relaxed about flying. When you see the abuse people threw at nuclear reactors, without hurting people, it's just astonishing.
some interview that came up when I googled him - not sure how good it is
Anyway, a bloody good and informative read so far, absolutely worth a read.
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Fuck that was some good TV. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Havent seen it yet, this was interesting though https://quillette.com/2019/06/28/quillette-podcast-40-nuclear-expert-michael-shellenberger-on-the-woeful-shortcomings-of-chernobyl-the-hbo-mini-series/
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Watched it recorded off Foxtel.
Well worth the watch.
Found the following article worth the read too:
An Exclusive Nuclear Street Interview with Dr. James Mahaffey, author of ATOMIC ACCIDENTS: A HISTORY OF NUCLEAR MELTDOWNS AND DISASTERS FROM THE OZARK MOUNTAINS TO FUKUSHIMA - News - Nuclear Power News - Nuclear Street - Nuclear Power Plant News, Jobs, and Careers
