Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva)



  • @Chris-B Have the Crusaders already played with their first choice team this year? Can't remember seeing Moody, Taylor. Franks in one and the same game together? It seems we have to wait until the QF or SF to see that (if Moody can stay in one piece until then)? And Todd may be more important to the team than he is getting credit for?



  • @Stargazer I don't think any Crusader fan would use rotation and/or unavailability as an excuse given the depth we have, BUT taking out the resting players, we are missing due to injury Franks, Perry, Taylor, Sanders and Strange in the forwards and Dagg, Mataele and Jordan in the backs. On any given night, that's an All Black front row, and the other guys being out hurts your ability to rotate guys and lowers the quality of your rotation which can't be helpful.



  • @shark said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    @Crucial said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    @Nepia said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    @mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    Fucking beautiful. I missed this so much. Chiefs go good, shark gets on the troll. Nice to be relevant, even if just for a couple of days

    Yep, it's the annual @shark complain about the Chiefs thread, glad I didn't miss it.

    Let's also not forget that the starting team that started of the Crusaders dynasty in the 1998 final only had 1/3 players from the region in an era before direct contracting.

    I just find it hilarious that a Cantab can talk about a lack of catchment players in the Chiefs when they have been mining Counties for decades.

    What has that handful of players got to do with it? Maybe blame the Chiefs for not identifying and retaining the Laulalas and Read instead?

    I'm not whinging about players lost from the Crusaders' catchment to other SR sides. And there's some quality there, too, in Alaimalo, McKay, ALB, Eliott Dixon, Lentjes, Prinsep, Retallick, DLB and Ash Dixon, off the top of my head.

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  • @Nepia Atleast he looks hard.



  • @shark said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    @Stargazer I don't think any Crusader fan would use rotation and/or unavailability as an excuse given the depth we have, BUT taking out the resting players, we are missing due to injury Franks, Perry, Taylor, Sanders and Strange in the forwards and Dagg, Mataele and Jordan in the backs. On any given night, that's an All Black front row, and the other guys being out hurts your ability to rotate guys and lowers the quality of your rotation which can't be helpful.

    Cry me a river. Dagg*, Mataele and Jordan? Yeah, they'd scare any side.

    Hurt your ability to rotate? That's very weak sauce.

    (*Dagg used to be excellent. That was quite some time ago now.)



  • Don’t get to excited about the blip which was Suva
    Watch what we do to the Rebels ,A kick in the Arse by the Chiefs is just what was needed to re-focus for the Finals.
    It’s a shame the Chiefs are probably going to be 3 points away from a playoff spot would like to see them in the playoffs as I think they might shake things up a bit.



  • @Chris Maybe don't wish too hard as they might meet you in a Quarter, a team with Cane and Rettalick would be dangerous.



  • @Canes4life no probs gotta beat the best to be the best if that happens they deserve it.
    Don’t want a 10th title by default.



  • @Canes4life It wasn't dangerous when they met in the semi-final in 2017 (which I traveled for might I add). The idea of playing the Crusaders at home during finals footy gives me the shits.



  • @Chris with Sevu Reece going so well at the Saders, do you think they will re sign Reece and maybe let Matele go...?,or maybe try to hang on to both..?



  • @Yeetyaah Sure does. Going down there and trying to muscle up against their quality pack in wintry conditions is always tough, let alone in the playoffs. I will always back my team to do the job though.



  • @Steven-Harris I think they will try to hold on to both players. Of the 2 maybe Reece has an emotional attachment to the Waikato .
    He maybe the one of the 2 who could possibly move. But I also know Sevu is very grateful to the Crusaders for picking him and changing his Rugby world so that pull might also be strong.



  • @Steven-Harris Reece was brought in to replace Dagg, not Mataele. So they have room to keep both.



  • @Chris Personally, I'd be stoked if Sevu came back and played for the Chiefs. But it think he's too grateful to the Crusaders and rightly so. I think he'll stay South.



  • @Yeetyaah Yeah surely he will stay with the Crusaders. He is now on the verge of being an All Black if he continues that form so would be silly to move from that environment.



  • @Chester-Draws said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    @shark said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    @Stargazer I don't think any Crusader fan would use rotation and/or unavailability as an excuse given the depth we have, BUT taking out the resting players, we are missing due to injury Franks, Perry, Taylor, Sanders and Strange in the forwards and Dagg, Mataele and Jordan in the backs. On any given night, that's an All Black front row, and the other guys being out hurts your ability to rotate guys and lowers the quality of your rotation which can't be helpful.

    Cry me a river. Dagg*, Mataele and Jordan? Yeah, they'd scare any side.

    Hurt your ability to rotate? That's very weak sauce.

    (*Dagg used to be excellent. That was quite some time ago now.)

    Not having those guys available and competing for spots means Havili'i, Bridge, Reece and Ennor know they're playing every week. That inhibits competition for spots and peformance in rotation. That's not that hard to understand is it?



  • Got some oil passed on to me that Colin Cooper is trying to get out of his super rugby contract with the chiefs.if anyone can add or has heard any similar murmurs would been keen to hear..this from a senior rugby journalist..!,
    Would definitely open up some coaching possibilities now that Steve Tew has decided to move on.



  • @Steven-Harris said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):

    Got some oil passed on to me that Colin Cooper is trying to get out of his super rugby contract with the chiefs.if anyone can add or has heard any similar murmurs would been keen to hear..this from a senior rugby journalist..!,
    Would definitely open up some coaching possibilities now that Steve Tew has decided to move on.

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  • @Steven-Harris so are you saying Colin Cooper is going to apply for Steves job or Steve is gonna apply for Colins job 😉 😆



  • @shark

    It's not hard to understand, it's merely wrong.

    Each of Havili'i, Bridge, Reece and Ennor are in possible AB contention. They would not care less about the guys behind them, because the guys behind are far worse than they are. They will play every game as well as they can, because they are looking at higher honours, not over their shoulders.

    Meanwhile other teams have their best players not being fielded. That's a far worse situation that worrying that some of your also-rans can't make the team.

    I would love it if the Chiefs could field Damien McKenzie, at the cost of not being able to field Etene Nanai-Seturo.


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