Region Of Origin SR Teams

shark

On the back of where I was taking the Chiefs vs Crusaders thread, how about a compilation of regional SR sides based on provincial origins? I listed around 18 players I’m pretty certain are current Crusaders from the catchment, plus another group from the region playing for other SR sides. No doubt the Blues will kill this. Here’s my Crusaders team:

15 David Havilii
14 Will Jordan
11 Solomon Alaimalo
13 Ryan Crotty
12 ALB
10 Richie Mo’unga
9 Mitchell Drummond
8 Elliott Dixon
7 Matt Todd
6 Ethan Blackadder
5 Brodie Retallick
4 Luke Romano
3 Owen Franks
2 Ash Dixon
1 Joe Moody

Bench

Tim Perry
DLB
Cupboards a little bare at hooker currently, so Brodie McAlister maybe
Quentin Strange
James Lentjes
Halfback same as hooker so maybe Connor Collins
Josh McKay
Tim Bateman

A pretty handy 23 at the moment, albeit with a couple of holes. No doubt at times in the past it may have been stronger, and also weaker (mid to late 90s for example). Plenty of outside back talent at the moment with Ngani Punivai and Leicester Fainga’anuku waiting in the wings and open side flankers to burn (Billy Harmon as well). Depth at 10 is light and I have McKay covering here rather than picking Fletcher Smith, compared to the days of Mehrts, DC, Slade, Taylor and even Brett and Bleyendaal.

Chris B.

@shark Probably Mitch Hunt as reserve first five - or Marty Banks - or even James Marshall, or Fletcher Smith. We've got lots of Tasman first fives!

No idea who Connor Collins is, so Jack Grooby at halfback.

Stargazer

Hurricanes

1 Atu Moli
2 Codie Taylor/ Dane Coles
3 Jeff To'omaga-Allan
4 Isaia Walker-Leawere
5 Sam Whitelock
6 Liam Squire / Luke Whitelock
7 Ardie Savea
8 Gareth Evans
9 Aaron Smith / TJ Perenara
10 Otere Black
11 George Bridge
12 Ngane Laumape
13 Rob Thompson
14 Matt Proctor
15 Nehe Milner-Skudder

Bench:
16 Dane Coles / Codie Taylor, with Asafo Aumua waiting in the stands; James Parsons will be there, too)
17 Kane Hames / Xavier Numia / Donald Brighouse
18 Alex Fidow
19 Jackson Hemopo / Michael Allardice (James Blackwell and Kane Le'aupepe in the stands)
20 Luke Whitelock / Liam Squire/ Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (Liam Mitchell in the stands)
21 TJ Perenara / Aaron Smith / Brad Weber (Kayne Hammington sitting in the stands)
22 Stephen Perofeta / Tiaan Falcon (Brett Cameron and JGB sitting in the stands)
23 Ma'a Nonu / the Umaga-Jensen twins / Jonah Lowe / Salesi Rayasi / Billy Proctor / Sam McNicol

Many variations in the outside backs are possible; also some swaps possible in the midfield.
FYI, Moli is from Gisborne, Perofeta from Whanganui. Allardice is from Taihape (so Wanganui).
No doubt, I forgot a few players.

Several young hookers and props with Mitre 10 Cup experience coming up in the Bay (Kereru-Symes, Devery / Farrell, Rakete-Stones, Tavita-Metcalfe); first five-eighth McClutchie; now if the Canes would sign and develop them, there could be more depth in those positions in the future ... Of course, Danny Toala and Devan Flanders have already been signed.

Also a possibility: Vilimoni Koroi (Whanganui)

Yeetyaah

Good luck trying to pull together a Landers team.

Chris B.

@Yeetyaah said in Region Of Origin SR Teams:

Good luck trying to pull together a Landers team.

15 Ben Smith

There's my contribution!

Stargazer

@Yeetyaah Yep, scraping the barrell here, stealing players from the Sunwolves:

Highlanders
1 Craig Millar
2 Sam Anderson-Heather
3
4 Josh Dickson
5 Manaaki Selby-Rickit
6
7
8
9 Josh Renton
10 Marty McKenzie
11 Matt Faddes
12 Hayden Parker
13 Sio Tomkinson
14 Ben Smith
15 Damian McKenzie

Bench:
16 Flynn Thomas
17
18
19 Tom Rowe
20
21
22 Josh Timu
23 Michael Collins

Chris B.

Damian McKenzie as reserve fullback. It's looking f*cking strong so far!

Yeetyaah

Alright here's my crack at a Chiefs contracted XV

Aidan Ross
Nathan Harris
Nepo Laulala
Lachlan Boshier (because I couldn't think of another lock)
Scott Barrett
Luke Jacobson
Sam Cane
Kieran Read (if he counts, signed for Counties but originally for Canterbury)
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
Beauden Barrett
Waisake Naholo
Sonny Bill Williams
Sean Wainui (naturally a midfielder)
Sevu Reece
Jordie Barrett

Reserves:
16. Ricky Riccitelli
17. Ayden Johnstone
18. Josh Iosefa-Scott
19. Laghlan McWhannell
20. Mitchell Brown
21. Augustine Pulu
22. Beaver Donald
23. Etene Nanai-Seturo

Locks were a hard one. Also midfielders was a bit of a mish.

ARHS

@Yeetyaah

Anton Lienert-Brown and Tom Franklin would fill those slots. James Tucker and Kane Leaupepe also contenders. Atu Moli and Toby Smith might go in as props and Solomon Alaimano as back 3. Pretty strong combo.

Yeahtheboys

Chiefs

Atu Moli
Nathan Harris
Jeff Thwaites
Scott Barrett
Tom Franklin
Luke Jacobson
Sam Cane
Kieran Read
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
Beauden Barrett
Sevu Reece
Teihorangi Walden
Sean Wainui
Waisake Naholo
Jordie Barrett

Off the top of my head could be wrong on some and missed others

Yeetyaah

@ARHS Didn't inlcude ALB as he was in the Crusaders one as he's from Canterbury, same with Alaimalo. Didn't go with Tucker coz he's not contracted in SR.

Yeahtheboys

@ARHS Lienert brown from CBHS

Stargazer

@Yeetyaah It's about "origin", so not where they are currently playing NPC or SR. I've gone with where players were born, or if that was unclear, where they went to school.

Kieran Read is from Papakura, not Canterbury.
Nepo Laulala wasn't born in NZ, so can't be in any NZ line-up.
Same for Naholo and Sevu Reece, who were born in Fiji.

Looked it up, and Sean Wainui is from Whatatutu (north of Gisborne), so the Canes can claim him.
SBW is from Auckland, you'll have to take him off the list, too.

Riccitelli was born in South Africa.

@ARHS ALB and James Tucker are from Canterbury

@Yeah-The-Boys Moli isn't from the Chiefs catchment

ARHS

@Stargazer

All good. Just referring to players contracted to Chiefs 4 provinces

Yeetyaah

@Stargazer Alright mine is shite then. Wasn't sure of the rules of where they are from as opposed to what Mitre 10 team.

Yeetyaah

Let's try again.

Ayden Johnstone
Nathan Harris
Josh Iosefa-Scott
Lachlan Boshier
Scott Barrett
Luke Jacobson
Sam Cane
Kieran Read
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
Beauden Barrett
Teihorangi Walden
Jordie Barrett

Reserves:
16. Liam Coltman
17. Reuben O'Neill
18.
19. Laghlan McWhannell
20. Mitchell Brown
21. Augustine Pulu
22. Beaver Donald
23. Etene Nanai-Seturo

Edit: Removed Sevu Reece, Waisake Naholo, Nepo Laulala, Aidan Ross, Ricky Riccitelli and Sean Wainui.

Thought about Gatland at 12 and Walden at 13 but meh. Cant think of any more.

Chris B.

@Stargazer I reckon someone like Riccitelli, who moved here as a four year old, should be eligible.

But not the kids from the Pacific Islands who came to school here on rugby scholarships.

Stargazer

@Yeetyaah said in Region Of Origin SR Teams:

I'd make a few changes:

Chiefs

1 Ayden Johnstone
2 Nathan Harris
3 Josh Iosefa-Scott
4 ~~Lachlan Boshier~~ Scott Barrett
5 ~~Scott Barrett~~ Pari Pari Parkinson
6 ~~Luke Jacobson~~ Whetu Douglas
7 Sam Cane
8 Kieran Read
9 Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
10 Beauden Barrett
11 Regan Ware
12 Teihorangi Walden
13 Quinn Tupaea
14 Beaudein Waaka
15 Jordie Barrett

Reserves:
16 Liam Coltman (Liam Polwart sitting in the stands)
17 Reuben O'Neill / Jeff Thwaites
18 Sosefo Kautai (not sure where he was born)
19 Tom Franklin / Mitchell Dunshea / Laghlan McWhannell / Jesse Parete
20 Luke Jacobson / Lachlan Boshier / Du'Plessis Kirifi / Mitchell Brown / Sam Henwood / Mitch Jacobson / Jimmy Tupou
21 Richard Judd (I think the Blues of Origin can claim Augustine Pulu?)
22 Bryn Gatland / Beaver Donald
23 Kaleb Trask / Ngarohi McGarvey-Black (Etene Nanai-Seturo, same as Augustine Pulu?)

Have stolen some players from Sevens, because it seems the Chiefs catchment area is light on outside backs.

shark

@Chris-B said in Region Of Origin SR Teams:

@shark Probably Mitch Hunt as reserve first five - or Marty Banks - or even James Marshall, or Fletcher Smith. We've got lots of Tasman first fives!

No idea who Connor Collins is, so Jack Grooby at halfback.

My bad! The next kid to come through the NZ U20s, ex CBHS, will add to the depth too!

shark

@Stargazer Lentjes is from Leeston and went to St Bedes.

Stargazer

@shark True. I had removed him and then somehow added him again. Another empty spot in the Landers' squad.

shark

@ARHS said in Region Of Origin SR Teams:

@Yeetyaah

Anton Lienert-Brown and Tom Franklin would fill those slots. James Tucker and Kane Leaupepe also contenders. Atu Moli and Toby Smith might go in as props and Solomon Alaimano as back 3. Pretty strong combo.

Someone hasn't quite got the gist of the criteria. Or maybe i wasnt clear.

ALB is from chch and went to CBHS
Tucker and Alaimalo also Cantabs, both out of St Bede's.

Canes4life

@ARHS Kane Leaupepe is from Wellington originally.

shark

OK so this is MY silly team, so here are MY qualification rules.

Born in a region and went to HS in the same region is an easy qualification, and I'd say most guys would fall into this criteria.
Born overseas but NZ qualified? Then its where they went to school.
Born overseas, schooled overseas but NZ qualified? Then it's about the province first represented.
The hardest ones would be if a guy was born in, say, Auckland, and then moved elsewhere with his family at say, 15. Personally I'd say they qualify for wherever they ended up after several years of HS in the region followed by provincial representation. The likes of Siate Tokolahi and D McKenzie who won one year scholarships to Christchurch high schools, i dont count as Cantabs. Case by case with these i guess so let the debate flow in instances like this.

shark

@Stargazer said in Region Of Origin SR Teams:

@Yeetyaah Yep, scraping the barrell here, stealing players from the Sunwolves:

Highlanders
1 Craig Millar
2 Sam Anderson-Heather
3
4 Josh Dickson
5 Manaaki Selby-Rickit
6
7
8
9 Josh Renton
10 Marty McKenzie
11 Matt Faddes
12 Hayden Parker
13 Sio Tomkinson
14 Ben Smith
15 Damian McKenzie

Bench:
16 Flynn Thomas
17
18
19 Tom Rowe
20
21
22 Josh Timu
23 Michael Collins

The prop with the dreadlocks who's been in the Otago squad for a few years and maybe played for the Canes?

Stargazer

@shark Should have made YOUR qualfication rules known at the beginning of the thread. I've applied your first sentence only. Rest not eligible under MY rules

Stargazer

@shark I have no idea who you mean, but if it's Aki Seiuli, then he's from Chch (he attended Timaru Boys; according to Wikipedia his family moved there when he was 10).

shark

@Stargazer Hisa Sasagi. I think he used to have dreads

Stargazer

@shark Born in Samoa (attended Otago Boys, not sure from what age)

Canes4life

Patrick Tuipolotu was born in Chch, does that count?

Stargazer

@Canes4life Yep. Crusaders of Origin can claim him!

mariner4life

@Stargazer said in Region Of Origin SR Teams:

@Canes4life Yep. Crusaders of Origin can claim him!

they won't want him, according to all cantabs he's a fat lazy flog

Canes4life

So the Blues would be:

Karl Tu'inukuafe
?
Ofa Tu'ungafasi
Scott Scrafton
Josh Goodhue
Tom Robinson
Dalton Papali'i
Akira Ioane
Sam Nock
Josh Ioane
Reiko Ioane
Sonny Bill Williams
Jack Goodhue
Braydon Ennor
?

Canes4life

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Canes4life

@Stargazer said in Region Of Origin SR Teams:

Hurricanes
1 Atu Moli
2 Codie Taylor/ Dane Coles

Wouldn't you have James Parsons as number 1 Hooker?

Stargazer

@Canes4life He can sit behind Aumua in the stands.

Canes4life

@Stargazer he can sit behind Apisai and Keruru Symes aswell.

Chris B.

@shark Under your rules, we can probably have Tyrel Lomax and Shannon Frizell.

Stargazer

Blues

1 Karl Tu’inukuafe
2 Andrew Makalio
3 Angus Ta’avao
4 Scott Scrafton
5 Sam Lousi / Josh Goodhue
6 Dalton Papali'i
7 Blake Gibson
8 Jordan Taufua
9 Bryn Hall
10 Josh Ioane
11 Rieko Ioane
12 Jack Goodhue
13 Braydon Ennor
14 Vince Aso / Caleb Clarke
15 Jack Debreczeni / Shaun Stevenson

Bench
16 Matt Moulds / Ray Niuia
17 Alex Hodgman / Ezekiel Lindenmuth / Chris Eves
18 Marcel Renata, Sione Mafileo
19 Gerard Cowley-Tuioti / Jack Whetton
20 Tom Robinson / Dillon Hunt / Mitch Karpik (Hoskins Sotutu waiting in the stands)
21 Ere Enari / Sam Nock / Augustine Pulu (unsure if he's "eligible")
22 Harry Plummer (although, isn't he from Karaka; can Chiefs of Origin claim him?)
23 TJ Faijane / Etene Nanai-Seturo? / SBW / Ben Lam / Levi Aumua / Jordan Trainor / Tanielu Tele’a (Tevita Li has to bring his binoculars, sitting so far back in the stands)

No Pat T and Matt Duffie (born in Chch).
Melani Nanai born in Samoa.
Ofa and Isi Tu'ungafasi born in Tonga.
No Akira Ioane (born in Japan).

mikedogz

Jimmy Tupou is Chiefs/Counties. Taufua has links to the Counties side of Rainbows end. How long was he at the Auckland School?

The Silver Fern

Region Of Origin SR Teams