Reds v Blues



  • the illness to Tu’inukuafe is concerning, is that 2 or 3 weeks now?





  • Akira continues to get run into the ground..... Great....



  • @KiwiMurph said in Reds v Blues:

    Akira continues to get run into the ground..... Great....

    i think it's time we accepted he's not playing in Black this year. I'm saving up a massive melt.



  • possibly numbering error?

    Robinson showing as lock reserve and Goodhue as loosie reserve.

    Who of Gibson or Dalton can play 8, if Akira doesnt get injured, he is looking at another 80 minute stint?

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  • The backrow is better with Dalton at 6.

    Disappointed that we aren't using Robinson to cover lock. I'd like to see if he could do it at this level. Robinson/Sotutu would offer more from the bench than Goodhue/Robinson



  • @taniwharugby said in Reds v Blues:

    Who of Gibson or Dalton can play 8

    Dalton



  • @Duluth that would make more sense at least then you have a genuine 8 on the bench.

    although numbers in the team sheet, indicates Robinson is the lock reserve...



  • Gibson has played a couple of games at 8 for Auckland too.



  • Here's an interesting stat

    Akira and Faiane and Nanai have each played more minutes for the Blues this year than SBW has ever played (total minutes) for the Blues in 3 seasons (even including SBW's match vs British and Irish Lions).



  • Anyone going?



  • @Duluth said in Reds v Blues:

    @taniwharugby said in Reds v Blues:

    Who of Gibson or Dalton can play 8

    Dalton

    He was very good as an 8 in school.

    He has the size and ball carrying to cover 8 at this level. His ball carrying is actually one of the more underrated and underutilized aspects of his game.



  • @Duluth said in Reds v Blues:

    The backrow is better with Dalton at 6.

    Disappointed that we aren't using Robinson to cover lock. I'd like to see if he could do it at this level. Robinson/Sotutu would offer more from the bench than Goodhue/Robinson

    I like what I have seen of Papali'i so far but to say that the backrow is better with him at 6 is forgetting how good has been Tom Robinson who is the standout player for the Blues this year.



  • @cgrant If Akira develops the way many Blues fans think he will then that trio could develop into New Zealand's best going forward. A good balance of height, power and hard edge.



  • @Bones said in Reds v Blues:

    Anyone going?

    I’m going to go, good chance I’ll miss kick off though as the young blokes rugby training doesn’t finish until 7.



  • @Canes4life said in Reds v Blues:

    @cgrant If Akira develops the way many Blues fans think he will then that trio could develop into New Zealand's best going forward. A good balance of height, power and hard edge.

    "Going forward" in a ball carrying sense or in a 90's corporate wankspeak sense ?



  • @cgrant said in Reds v Blues:

    @Duluth said in Reds v Blues:

    The backrow is better with Dalton at 6.

    Disappointed that we aren't using Robinson to cover lock. I'd like to see if he could do it at this level. Robinson/Sotutu would offer more from the bench than Goodhue/Robinson

    I like what I have seen of Papali'i so far but to say that the backrow is better with him at 6 is forgetting how good has been Tom Robinson who is the standout player for the Blues this year.

    If you look at the stats when Dalton plays he’s the worker of the back row, hits rucks and makes a huge amount of tackles, carrys the ball.

    Robinson has been great, but isn’t as busy and the Blues suffer for it. Especially as the team pattern has him on the wing a lot.

    When the team pattern also has Akira in the midfield, that’s not many loosies over the ball!



  • @Kirwan is that a fault of the pattern they are running then, or the players on the park for not sticking to thier roles?

    Players might have the same position but the way they play suits them being in different parts of the structure, ie TR is stationed wide when he is on the park, whereas DP is used more centrally, so of course their work will be different.

    Similarly when people were critical of Same Cane in years gone by when Ardie was making turnovers, bustling runs etc...they are used completely differently by thier respective teams, so again, while playing same positions, you cant directly compare stats to show who is the better/worse...just different.

    All playing well to fit thier Job Description.



  • @taniwharugby said in Reds v Blues:

    TR is stationed wide when he is on the park

    Yes, in the last 20mins it seems he's been told to stand outside the winger. It is infuriating that they are doing this and turning over ball in the middle of the park.
    Besides, his breaks dried up after the first month (probably after the opposition coaches noticed his speed)

    He's been very good this year but Dalton is the better player. The four best loosies should all be rotating anyway..



  • @taniwharugby said in Reds v Blues:

    the illness to Tu’inukuafe is concerning, is that 2 or 3 weeks now?

    Flu or some other virus?


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