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    • booboo
      booboo last edited by Duluth

      When do tickets go on sale?

      Mrs Boo reckons we're going.

      Will make sure we're there for the pool matches ... and see how flexible we can be during the knockouts ...

      Collective thoughts on tours, touring parties, independent travel etc appreciated.

      (Yes I'm deflecting, I don't want to dwell on the aftermath.)

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      • Higgins
        Higgins @booboo last edited by

        @booboo said in France 2023:

        When do tickets go on sale?

        Mrs Boo reckons we're going.

        Will make sure we're there for the pool matches ... and see how flexible we can be during the knockouts ...

        Collective thoughts on tours, touring parties, independent travel etc appreciated.

        (Yes I'm deflecting, I don't want to dwell on the aftermath.)

        Never mind that, when is the squad named?

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        • kiwiinmelb
          kiwiinmelb last edited by

          4 more years 4 more years

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          • Bovidae
            Bovidae last edited by

            If you can get tickets to the games you want to see through the ballot I would do the tour independently as you will have more flexibility to visit where you want between games. That is what my friends and I did in 2007, and it should be cheaper.

            The TGV/train network is great to travel between cities, and you can organise your own accommodation.

            Tours like Williment Travel will take a lot of the hassle away so it depends on what you want from the experience. I'll never forget seeing many from their tour group walking around Paris after the QF in their adidas tour kit looking like they wanted to be somewhere else. We all ended up at a bar watching the NPC final live.

            It's much better to be incognito. 🙂

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            • Crazy Horse
              Crazy Horse last edited by

              It was good to see us keeping our powder dry for this one last night. The pricks aren't going to know what hit them.

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              • Yeetyaah
                Yeetyaah @Higgins last edited by

                @Higgins Thursday

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                • Machpants
                  Machpants @kiwiinmelb last edited by

                  @kiwiinmelb said in France 2023:

                  4 more years 4 more years

                  8 years?

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                  • Higgins
                    Higgins @Yeetyaah last edited by Higgins

                    @Yeetyaah Thanks, I'll keep my phone handy just in case I get the call up.

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                    • G
                      Godder last edited by

                      Must be time for the TSF tour '23.

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                      • nzzp
                        nzzp @Godder last edited by

                        @Godder said in France 2023:

                        Must be time for the TSF tour '23.

                        that could be good fun. Wonder how many pubs we'd be banned from 🙂

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                        • Bones
                          Bones @Crazy Horse last edited by

                          @Crazy-Horse said in France 2023:

                          It was good to see us keeping our powder dry for this one last night. The pricks aren't going to know what hit them.

                          I see France winning this and us getting knocked out by Ireland.

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                          • voodoo
                            voodoo @Bones last edited by

                            @Bones said in France 2023:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in France 2023:

                            It was good to see us keeping our powder dry for this one last night. The pricks aren't going to know what hit them.

                            I see France winning this and us getting knocked out by Ireland.

                            Downvote!!!

                            Reckon I'll be there in person for this one

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                            • Bones
                              Bones @voodoo last edited by

                              @voodoo said in France 2023:

                              @Bones said in France 2023:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in France 2023:

                              It was good to see us keeping our powder dry for this one last night. The pricks aren't going to know what hit them.

                              I see France winning this and us getting knocked out by Ireland.

                              Downvote!!!

                              Reckon I'll be there in person for this one

                              Yep me too. Only 20 minutes from a Eurostar station!

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                              • Billy Webb
                                Billy Webb @nzzp last edited by

                                @nzzp said in France 2023:

                                @Godder said in France 2023:

                                Must be time for the TSF tour '23.

                                that could be good fun. Wonder how many pubs we'd be banned from 🙂

                                @Godder @nzzp Reckon I could be up for that if you could stomach hanging about with a Saffer.
                                I know @Snowy is boycotting travelling to RWC games anymore, but I'm sure I can tempt him out of retirement if he feels his liver is strong enough for one last hurrah with me 😉

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                                • Snowy
                                  Snowy @Billy Webb last edited by

                                  @Billy-Webb said in France 2023:

                                  if he feels his liver is strong enough for one last hurrah with me

                                  That's the problem, weeks in France with good (and cheap) wine my liver may well decide it is a final hurrah.
                                  That and the fact that the ABs will lose if I go.

                                  It is tempting though. Hmmm.

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                                  • nzzp
                                    nzzp @Billy Webb last edited by

                                    @Billy-Webb said in France 2023:

                                    @nzzp said in France 2023:

                                    @Godder said in France 2023:

                                    Must be time for the TSF tour '23.

                                    that could be good fun. Wonder how many pubs we'd be banned from 🙂

                                    @Godder @nzzp Reckon I could be up for that if you could stomach hanging about with a Saffer.
                                    I know @Snowy is boycotting travelling to RWC games anymore, but I'm sure I can tempt him out of retirement if he feels his liver is strong enough for one last hurrah with me 😉

                                    I'm quite tempted ... will be taking time out to calm down after this Cup though, and korero with the father in law. He's an old school rugby dude, would be funny as shit to be on tour with. Also tempted to drag one or both boys along ... well, for festival rugby group stages. After that it's all pressure, pain and heartbreak -- kind of like working 🙂

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                                    • antipodean
                                      antipodean @Billy Webb last edited by

                                      @Billy-Webb said in France 2023:

                                      @Godder @nzzp Reckon I could be up for that if you could stomach hanging about with a Saffer.

                                      Add another - I'll be over there the week before playing anyway.

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                                      • sparky
                                        sparky @booboo last edited by

                                        @booboo said in France 2023:

                                        When do tickets go on sale?

                                        Mrs Boo reckons we're going.

                                        Will make sure we're there for the pool matches ... and see how flexible we can be during the knockouts ...

                                        Collective thoughts on tours, touring parties, independent travel etc appreciated.

                                        (Yes I'm deflecting, I don't want to dwell on the aftermath.)

                                        You can register for interest here:

                                        https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/france2023

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                                        • Bovidae
                                          Bovidae last edited by

                                          World Rugby and the France 2023 Organising Committee have announced that the Rugby World Cup 2023 Draw will take place in Paris at Palais Brongniart on 14 December 2020.
                                          
                                          Acknowledging the global COVID-19 impact on international rugby in 2020, with some teams not playing this year, and to be fair to all qualified teams, the Rugby World Cup Board has decided that the World Rugby rankings as of 1 January 2020 will be used to determine the five bands. This represents the fairest scenario given it was the last time that all teams were able to play.
                                          
                                          The bands as of 1 January 2020 are:
                                          Band 1: South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
                                          Band 2: Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
                                          Band 3: Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
                                          Band 4: Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia / Pacific 1
                                          Band 5: Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier Winner
                                          

                                          https://www.world.rugby/news/590670/stage-set-for-rugby-world-cup-2023-draw

                                          I still don't know why rugby needs to do this so far in advance when you look at when FIFA finalises pools and draws.

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                                          • Machpants
                                            Machpants last edited by

                                            Those are the ranking from the end of last year, too. I'd fucking laugh if one pool had teams ranked first, second, and third in it at the time of the tournament. It's just about possible

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                                            • Kruse
                                              Kruse @Machpants last edited by

                                              @Machpants said in France 2023:

                                              Those are the ranking from the end of last year, too. I'd fucking laugh if one pool had teams ranked first, second, and third in it at the time of the tournament. It's just about possible

                                              Which one of Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy - do you think is "just about possible" to get to 3rd in the world?
                                              Has Jaguars4Real (or whatever that nutjob's name was) come back and hijacked your account?

                                              But yeah, I kinda get the sentiment. Although... in rugby, I've never understood the wailing and gnashing of teeth around this. In reality - there's less than 8 teams truly likely to win the thing... and they would only very, very rarely drop out of the top-8 rankings. Therefore - the most important thing, avoiding 3 genuine contenders in the same pool - is almost a given. 2011 was a massive anomaly.

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                                              • Machpants
                                                Machpants @Kruse last edited by

                                                @Kruse tongue was firmly in chek. But so ridiculous to base it off ranking from 3 years ago.

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                                                • antipodean
                                                  antipodean @Kruse last edited by

                                                  @Kruse said in France 2023:

                                                  Therefore - the most important thing, avoiding 3 genuine contenders in the same pool - is almost a given. 2011 was a massive anomaly.

                                                  The Poms would like to mention (or probably forget) 2015.

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                                                  • Kruse
                                                    Kruse @antipodean last edited by

                                                    @antipodean said in France 2023:

                                                    @Kruse said in France 2023:

                                                    Therefore - the most important thing, avoiding 3 genuine contenders in the same pool - is almost a given. 2011 was a massive anomaly.

                                                    The Poms would like to mention (or probably forget) 2015.

                                                    Shit. I meant 2015.
                                                    That's it... that's the excuse... being sober Just. Doesn't. Work. To the fridge...

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                                                    • MiketheSnow
                                                      MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                      So Wales, Australia & Fiji in one pool

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                                                      • Kruse
                                                        Kruse @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                        @MiketheSnow said in France 2023:

                                                        So Wales, Australia & Fiji in one pool

                                                        'twas ever thus

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                                                        • rotated
                                                          rotated @Bovidae last edited by

                                                          @Bovidae said in France 2023:

                                                          I still don't know why rugby needs to do this so far in advance when you look at when FIFA finalises pools and draws.

                                                          Because unlike the FIFA WC in the RWC the schedule dictates the venues. With limitless demand Brazil can build a stadium in the middle of the jungle for 5 fixtures with unknown teams and have them all sell out immediately. Not even close for RWC they need to know the fixtures before they set the venues and schedule. No use having Georgia vs Kenya at Stade De France and ABs vs Wales in Pau.

                                                          Official tour groups are a big revenue source and if you are teeing up to go in 2023 then you are making the call in 2021.

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                                                          • Bovidae
                                                            Bovidae @rotated last edited by

                                                            @rotated I still don't believe WR needs to make these decisions 3 years before the tournament starts. If they are going to use rankings to assign teams to bands/groups at least make them relevant.

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                                                            • MN5
                                                              MN5 @Kruse last edited by

                                                              @Kruse said in France 2023:

                                                              @Machpants said in France 2023:

                                                              Those are the ranking from the end of last year, too. I'd fucking laugh if one pool had teams ranked first, second, and third in it at the time of the tournament. It's just about possible

                                                              Which one of Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy - do you think is "just about possible" to get to 3rd in the world?
                                                              Has Jaguars4Real (or whatever that nutjob's name was) come back and hijacked your account?

                                                              But yeah, I kinda get the sentiment. Although... in rugby, I've never understood the wailing and gnashing of teeth around this. In reality - there's less than 8 teams truly likely to win the thing... and they would only very, very rarely drop out of the top-8 rankings. Therefore - the most important thing, avoiding 3 genuine contenders in the same pool - is almost a given. 2011 was a massive anomaly.

                                                              The mighty Scots of course. Those other teams suck arse.

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                                                              • Catogrande
                                                                Catogrande @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                @MiketheSnow said in France 2023:

                                                                So Wales, Australia & Fiji in one pool

                                                                Thought you’d want to avoid Fiji? Or Samoa come to that. 🎣

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                                                                • MiketheSnow
                                                                  MiketheSnow @Catogrande last edited by

                                                                  @Catogrande said in France 2023:

                                                                  @MiketheSnow said in France 2023:

                                                                  So Wales, Australia & Fiji in one pool

                                                                  Thought you’d want to avoid Fiji? Or Samoa come to that. 🎣

                                                                  Not anymore

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                                                                  • Bovidae
                                                                    Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

                                                                    The draw will take place at 12:30 pm CET today at the Palais Brongniart in Paris.

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                                                                    Rugby World Cup France 2023 will be contested by 20 teams, of which 12 are directly qualified by virtue of a top-three place in their respective Rugby World Cup 2019 pools. These teams will be seeded based on World Rugby Men's Rankings as of 1 January, 2020 and placed into three bands of four teams (bands one, two and three).
                                                                    
                                                                    The remaining eight teams will come through the regional qualification process and will be allocated into bands four and five based on relative strength. Except for France (Band 2) which will be drawn first as host country, all teams in each band will be randomly drawn to determine the pools they go into, the first drawn being placed in Pool A, the second in Pool B, the third in Pool C and the fourth in Pool D. The first band to be drawn will be five, with the top four seeds in band one last.
                                                                    
                                                                    The match schedule, with date, location and time of all games will be announced towards the end of February 2021.
                                                                    
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                                                                    • Bones
                                                                      Bones last edited by

                                                                      Holy fucken snoozefest. I'm fast losing interest...

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                                                                      • S
                                                                        scribe @Bones last edited by

                                                                        @Bones so we get France in our pool and then I assume either Sth Africa or Ireland in quarters (if draw in Feb aligns with what they did for Japan 2019).

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                                                                        • Daffy Jaffy
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                                                                          • rotated
                                                                            rotated last edited by

                                                                            Drawn with Italy for the 7th time in 10 tournaments.

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                                                                            • KiwiMurph
                                                                              KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                              3rd straight RWC pool with Wales, Australia and Fiji.

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                                                                              • MajorRage
                                                                                MajorRage @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                                @KiwiMurph said in France 2023:

                                                                                3rd straight RWC pool with Wales, Australia and Fiji.

                                                                                Dream pool for English rugby scribes. Up against their two favourites.

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                                                                                • booboo
                                                                                  booboo last edited by

                                                                                  So we know what the opening game is going to be ... Hosts versing the biggest draw cards ...

                                                                                  Or do they go hosts verse a guaranteed win (I've started the count down on the hilarious Foster post).

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                                                                                  • Daffy Jaffy
                                                                                    Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                                                                                    I think pool A Quarter Finals are vs Pool B. So NZ will need to beat France in pool play to avoid the Boks in the Quarters!

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