Royal drama
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Big shout out to Harry & Megs for taking the journalistic thunder away from the politicians!
I don't give a shit about the Royals generally, but this move by them does seem a bit rough. Certainly understand their thoughts, especially given that Harry is Diana's offspring, but to do this announcement with even speaking to the rest of the whanau seems a bit ... shit.
Have the seen the race card thrown about in a couple of situations (one bloke had a go at Piers on twitter playing this card). The idiocy of the modern world know no bounds.
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@MajorRage you (and we all) know this isn't Hazza's call huh?
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@MajorRage yeah I posted on the stuff thread as wasn't sure where to put it - but their struggle to "become financially independent" is real I'm sure. However will Markle earn money? Fuckwits.
Funny to see the family coming out and being quite publicly "disappointed"....no problems with Andrew though eh.
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@MajorRage you (and we all) know this isn't Hazza's call huh?
Absolutely. Although he's ginger, and they are fiery fuckers who don't like being told what to do at the best of times.
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@MajorRage yeah I posted on the stuff thread as wasn't sure where to put it - but their struggle to "become financially independent" is real I'm sure. However will Markle earn money? Fuckwits.
Funny to see the family coming out and being quite publicly "disappointed"....no problems with Andrew though eh.
Yeah especially after we paid to upgrade their Frogmore pad.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@booboo said in British Politics:
@MajorRage you (and we all) know this isn't Hazza's call huh?
Absolutely. Although he's ginger, and they are fiery fuckers who don't like being told what to do at the best of times.
I've seen it happen to my ginger Arab (untold amounts of anger) best mate. Found a good woman and lost the fire.
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@booboo said in British Politics:
@MajorRage you (and we all) know this isn't Hazza's call huh?
Absolutely. Although he's ginger, and they are fiery fuckers who don't like being told what to do at the best of times.
I've seen it happen to my ginger Arab (untold amounts of anger) best mate. Found a good woman and lost the fire.
That's the question really ...
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I was interested about the money aspect and looked it up, all reports say the couple have a combined worth of about 30-odd million, so the 'working towards financial independence' is a bit shit. I also hate that they sprung this on the Queen, especially after getting the house done up for a cool few mill. But they reckon they'll keep the titles and 600k a year security etc. Hmmmmmmm.
It is possible to think both that the British media can be complete assholes, and that this was a dick move by Harry and Meghan, I reckon.
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@Mokey said in British Politics:
But they reckon they'll keep the titles and 600k a year security etc. Hmmmmmmm.
Don't have a problem with titles as they cost nowt nor with security costs. I might think Blair was a duplicitous grand-stander only out to enhance his personal wealth but still think it's right he gets police protection - as does Farage & his family.
Actually have a lot of time for Harry and respect his decision - he seems to have put his young family first which is admirable - but that's it. You leave the job, you don't get paid.
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Harry has a history of rebelling against being a royal. I reckon that was part of the attraction to Meghan.
Meghan is copping it but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Harry is the one that made this happen. She's endured loads of racism and other abuse, and given they have a kid now, I wouldn't be surprised if he said fuck being a royal anymore let's move out of the UK.
I also don't buy the line that they didn't consult the Queen or royal family. Their statement says they'd been in talks for months. If those talks don't go anywhere then its hardly surprising that they just cut their losses and made the decision to go. The only part that would have been a surprise to the Queen is that they actually went ahead and did it.
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@No-Quarter said in British Politics:
Harry has a history of rebelling against being a royal. I reckon that was part of the attraction to Meghan.
I certainly don't buy that this is a 100% Meghan driven move, which a lot of outlets are stating either.
Meghan is copping it but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Harry is the one that made this happen. She's endured loads of racism and other abuse, and given they have a kid now, I wouldn't be surprised if he said fuck being a royal anymore let's move out of the UK.
She's received plenty of criticism for her actions, which is part of the job. A lot of people claiming this is racism. But social media aside (and that's global) I don't think I've seen her exposed to it at all.
I also don't buy the line that they didn't consult the Queen or royal family. Their statement says they'd been in talks for months. If those talks don't go anywhere then its hardly surprising that they just cut their losses and made the decision to go. The only part that would have been a surprise to the Queen is that they actually went ahead and did it.
I completely buy it. They said internal talks, which quite clearly was between the two of them. Can't see why the palace would lie.
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@No-Quarter said in British Politics:
She's endured loads of racism
I must have missed that. Was this before or after she started dating Harry?
There were the usual articles in the left-wing press arguing that as she was the first and only "black princess" it proved the UK was racist (they also argued that William marrying a white girl proved the UK racist...). And there were, no doubt, loads of racist comments on twitter about her - just as there are on say, Boris Johnson.
Sure, the appalling UK press went after her and she found that difficult and that brought out the usual, lazy, "it's only coz she's black" comments from rent-a-mouths like Stormzy & Lenny Henry
But the Press also went after Diana, Charles, Anne, Camilla, you name it, in a far more vicious way - and they weren't black.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
But the Press also went after Diana, Charles, Anne, Camilla, you name it, in a far more vicious way - and they weren't black.
Yeah, the only "mainstream" criticism of the two I've seen has been in regards to seemingly wanting the trappings and benefits of royalty without the duties/ongoing profile/sacrifices.
No doubt making this decision after the wedding, titles, renovations, publicity/profile for Meghan will put that to rest.
It certainly has to fall in the 'there isn't enough time in the day' basket, but saying that there was anything but fringe racist is ridiculous.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
At some point, you'd like to think the racism rent-a-crowd will realise that continuing labelling criticism of any sort at people of colour, substantially diminishes the ability to tackle real racism.
Yep. It helps the likes of Tommy Robinson to prosper by claiming PoC are getting a free ride and real problems of racism can be swept under the carpet, or dismissed as scaremongering from "the race relations industry"
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Couldn't resist....
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Chapeau!
