Coronavirus - Overall
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@raznomore Sorry to hear about your situation buddy. I suspect you may be in the same position as many, with the dilemma of liquidating your Kiwisaver when it has taken a hiding or struggling to hold your head above water. Will you be eligible for any of Jacinda's aid money?
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Well I am about to do something I have never done in my 28 year working career, apply for the dole. School closures are imminent here and all my work has been cancelled for the last few weeks and now for the foreseeable future. Guess I should be happy to get back some of the tax I have paid over the years.
Hopefully I will pick up some work but I imagine there are going to be lots of people applying for whatever jobs are left. I am just happy I live in a society that does actually have govt support payments.
My thoughts are with all those other people who are likely to be out of work and have their lives impacted by this.
Well I can't actually apply as the website has crashed, must be a few people applying.
There are thousands in your society who have moved (or their parents moved) from NZ to Aus since 2000 who are prevented by law from accessing government support. Hopefully Quade will be OK.
But, with that snarky comment out of the way, I apologise for using your comment of your personal circumstance to make/score a political point. Shit, is serious. It is good you ahve the backstop. In NZ they have removed sand down period, is it the same there?
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@raznomore Shit, feel for you.
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@JC Cheers. I'm in the same position as everyone else I guess.
I don't know if Kiwi's in OZ will get help from anywhere, to be honest. I have about $30k of employer and my contributions left in my Kiwisaver and AMP will make me jump through infinite hoops to access it.
I'll apply to get the $10k Skomo has suggested we will get access to and so with the Mrs.
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Excerpt of an article in The Australian by the Dean of Law at the University of NSW:
Extraordinary times call for extraordinary powers. Parliament had this in mind when it enacted the national Biosecurity Act in 2015. In a welcome act of foresight, it introduced special powers and measures should Australia experience a pandemic. The Biosecurity Act is a mammoth 700-page piece of legislation. It provides a formidable and truly remarkable set of powers for the federal government to navigate this crisis.
Government officials can impose a human biosecurity control order on any person displaying one or more symptoms of COVID-19, as well as any other person they have been in contact with. These orders permit the government to bypass the need for personal consent.
Anyone subject to such an order can have their liberty and freedom restricted in numerous ways. They can be compelled to reveal every other person they have been in contact with and to remain at their residence or in isolation at a government facility. They can also be subject to medical examination and be compelled to provide body samples and submit to treatment. Anyone who fails to follow such directions can be detained by the police and jailed for five years.
The government can determine who comes to Australia and can establish human health response zones to restrict who enters or leaves a location within Australia. Areas with an outbreak, including towns, suburbs and streets, can be closed and quarantined. This might involve roadblocks and other means of preventing free movement.
Powers like this are complemented by the capacity of the states to impose their own stringent restrictions and controls. NSW, for example, has used powers under its Public Health Act to ban outdoor gatherings of 500 or more people and indoor gatherings of 100 or more people. This can be applied anywhere, including beaches, parks and other places where people gather. Victoria has declared a state of emergency that activates additional powers, including to detain people or restrict their movement.
Tasmania has begun a push to close its borders. It has already imposed a mandatory 14 days of self-isolation for everyone arriving on the island. Western Australia and South Australia have announced they will follow suit. This runs counter to the guarantee in section 92 of the Constitution that Australians are guaranteed free movement throughout the federation. It is, though, subject to exception, including reasonable measures to deal with a public health emergency.
Even extraordinary powers like this are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how our governments can restrict our liberty to keep the community safe from COVID-19. The most remarkable power lies in the federal Biosecurity Act. It permits the governor-general to declare a human biosecurity emergency to limit the spread of a disease that is posing a severe and immediate threat on a national scale.
Once the emergency has been declared, the federal health minister is vested with unfettered personal power of a kind normally only found in a dictatorship. The minister may determine “any requirement” and make “any direction” needed to prevent or control the disease. These cannot be disallowed by parliament and override any other law. Failure to comply is liable to five years’ imprisonment.
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@raznomore said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@JC Cheers. I'm in the same position as everyone else I guess.
I don't know if Kiwi's in OZ will get help from anywhere, to be honest. I have about $30k of employer and my contributions left in my Kiwisaver and AMP will make me jump through infinite hoops to access it.
I'll apply to get the $10k Skomo has suggested we will get access to and so with the Mrs.
You might/should get that cash splash that ScoMO will throw out.
I moved to Melbourne in Jan 2009 during GFC and initially stayed with some fellow kiwis. They all got the $2k or whatever cash amount it was, as it went to anyone who had paid income tax the previous FY. But they wouldn't have got any income support etc if they lost their jobs.
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has there been anything on Chinas numbers?
Given they supposedly been slowly returning to work and stuff, I even heard some logs started being sent again...
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From the Prime Minister:
Australians should expect these measures to be in place for at least 6 months. -
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
From the Prime Minister:
Australians should expect these measures to be in place for at least 6 months.aaaaand there's the kicker. Entire industries will be decimated. 6 months is an extraordinary amount of time to try and ride this out. The jobless rates will be through the roof
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
From the Prime Minister:
Australians should expect these measures to be in place for at least 6 months.aaaaand there's the kicker. Entire industries will be decimated. 6 months is an extraordinary amount of time to try and ride this out. The jobless rates will be through the roof
Suicide rates and domestic abuse will through the roof....
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
From the Prime Minister:
Australians should expect these measures to be in place for at least 6 months.aaaaand there's the kicker. Entire industries will be decimated. 6 months is an extraordinary amount of time to try and ride this out. The jobless rates will be through the roof
Suicide rates and domestic abuse will through the roof....
And robbery/burglary. Wouldn't want to be a woman living alone.
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we're all working off 6 months.
what if it is more?
At what point do the restrictions relax? What is the trigger point?
we're closed now. we may never re-open.