Coronavirus - Overall
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Analysis of India's excess mortality rates suggests India has suffered over 4 million COVID deaths!
Yep, up to a factor of 10 underreported.
But this number was derived by modelling.
And we all know how accurate Covid modelling has been.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Analysis of India's excess mortality rates suggests India has suffered over 4 million COVID deaths!
Yep, up to a factor of 10 underreported.
But this number was derived by modelling.
And we all know how accurate Covid modelling has been.
Yes but there comes a time when modelling does tell you the picture, even if that is a bit blurry - ie even if the modelling is 50% out of whack that is either 2 million or 6 million deaths. Just huge numbers.
A bit like a convo I had with a GP about BMI as a measurement for obesity and I trotted out the usual, "Steve Redgrave was morbidly obese as measured by his BMI and he did't do too bad". His reply was that to use BMI on an individual or a certain sub section such as Olympic athletes or rugby players was useless but when applied to society as a whole or geographically, demographically etc it was a very useful barometer.
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
A bit like a convo I had with a GP about BMI as a measurement for obesity and I trotted out the usual, "Steve Redgrave was morbidly obese as measured by his BMI and he did't do too bad". His reply was that to use BMI on an individual or a certain sub section such as Olympic athletes or rugby players was useless but when applied to society as a whole or geographically, demographically etc it was a very useful barometer.
This is the correct answer.
So all these shitty 'calculate your BMI' tools can be super misleading.
That said, it's typically a good indicator for people. Very few of us are elite athletes (unless Keyboard Warrior counts)
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
A bit like a convo I had with a GP about BMI as a measurement for obesity and I trotted out the usual, "Steve Redgrave was morbidly obese as measured by his BMI and he did't do too bad". His reply was that to use BMI on an individual or a certain sub section such as Olympic athletes or rugby players was useless but when applied to society as a whole or geographically, demographically etc it was a very useful barometer.
This is the correct answer.
So all these shitty 'calculate your BMI' tools can be super misleading.
That said, it's typically a good indicator for people. Very few of us are elite athletes (unless Keyboard Warrior counts)
Unfortunately not in my case.
BMI in itself is a raw number.
Put BMI with % body fat ...
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
A bit like a convo I had with a GP about BMI as a measurement for obesity and I trotted out the usual, "Steve Redgrave was morbidly obese as measured by his BMI and he did't do too bad". His reply was that to use BMI on an individual or a certain sub section such as Olympic athletes or rugby players was useless but when applied to society as a whole or geographically, demographically etc it was a very useful barometer.
This is the correct answer.
So all these shitty 'calculate your BMI' tools can be super misleading.
That said, it's typically a good indicator for people. Very few of us are elite athletes (unless Keyboard Warrior counts)
Unfortunately not in my case.
BMI in itself is a raw number.
Put BMI with % body fat ...
Iiiiin one!
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Analysis of India's excess mortality rates suggests India has suffered over 4 million COVID deaths!
Per capita, this number (x 10) would put India about same as Hungary, Bosnia, Czech Rep etc. at about 3000 per million. Plausible.
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I'm not (really) a concpiracy theorist but i do believe in "follow the money"
Pfizer is making a nice wedge off this little vaccine caper (as they are entitled to, fuck me what they have pulled off in a year)
saw a little story pop up that maybe a 3rd dose of the Pfizer might be needed.
now THAT is a business model. Get the media and the Governments to generate your market for you.
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@mariner4life WHO came out saying there is no evidence of a requirement for a third dose and that having one gives no additional protection. Hopefully the politicians were listening.
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@nzzp No difference between Pfizer, AZ and the non-vaccinated population without Covid in terms of harmful blood clots. It was all fake news.
Absolutely shameful to say the least that Macron and some other EU leaders chose to thrash a cheap, safe vaccine that could have saved millions of lives.
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nzzp No difference between Pfizer, AZ and the non-vaccinated population without Covid in terms of harmful blood clots. It was all fake news.
Absolutely shameful to say the least that Macron and some other EU leaders chose to thrash a cheap, safe vaccine that could have saved millions of lives.
I think there has to be more to it than this. Or perhaps, hope is the better word.
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Post on FB this morning with a picture of a passport and boarding pass, from an American friend who refuses to get vaxxed, ‘off to England, Croatia, and Italy’
I cant believe that she can so easily travel to those countries and I cant get home, despite being double jabbed.
My Oz friend has a mother wife terminal cancer. The earliest he can get a spot in quarantine in Oz is October!
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Post on FB this morning with a picture of a passport and boarding pass, from an American friend who refuses to get vaxxed, ‘off to England, Croatia, and Italy’
I cant believe that she can so easily travel to those countries and I get home home, despite being double jabbed.
My Oz friend has a mother wife terminal cancer. The earliest he can get a spot in quarantine in Oz is October!
Absolute fucking joke
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Post on FB this morning with a picture of a passport and boarding pass, from an American friend who refuses to get vaxxed, ‘off to England, Croatia, and Italy’
I cant believe that she can so easily travel to those countries and I get home home, despite being double jabbed.
My Oz friend has a mother wife terminal cancer. The earliest he can get a spot in quarantine in Oz is October!
How can this be allowed?
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Post on FB this morning with a picture of a passport and boarding pass, from an American friend who refuses to get vaxxed, ‘off to England, Croatia, and Italy’
I cant believe that she can so easily travel to those countries and I get home home, despite being double jabbed.
My Oz friend has a mother wife terminal cancer. The earliest he can get a spot in quarantine in Oz is October!
Absolute fucking joke
A rather sick one.