Hurricanes vs Sharks



  • @mikey07 I'm sure Taine Plumtree will be running around somewhere, I know the Canes have been closely developing him over the last few years.



  • @Stargazer with his mountain of injuries no thanks someone younger thanks



  • @Canes4life he’s been around forever it seems shouldn’t be too far away from at least making his ITM debut



  • @mikey07 If it's only as injury cover, he would be a good replacement. He hasn't been injured for a while (he played 11 out of 12 M10 Cup games in 2019). He's only 25; why younger? 2m tall locks are hard to find and he's been in the Canes environment for years. The Canes could do a lot worse.



  • The only change to the Sharks team that beat the Highlanders is the inclusion of Boeta Chamberlain at flyhalf in place of Curwin Bosch who has unfortunately had to deal with a family bereavement and has returned home to South Africa.

    The Cell C Sharks

    1 Ox Nche
    2 Kerron van Vuuren
    3 Thomas du Toit
    4 Ruben van Heerden
    5 Hyron Andrews
    6 James Venter
    7 Tyler Paul
    8 Sikumbuzo Notshe
    9 Louis Schreuder
    10 Boeta Chamberlain
    11 Makazole Mapimpi
    12 Andre Esterhuizen
    13 Lukhanyo Am ( C )
    14 Madosh Tambwe
    15 Aphelele Fassi

    REPLACEMENTS:
    16 Craig Burden
    17 Juan Schoeman
    18 John-Hubert Meyer
    19 Le Roux Roets
    20 Dylan Richardson
    21 Phepsi Buthelezi
    22 Sanele Nohamba
    23 Jeremy Ward



  • @Paekakboyz said in Hurricanes vs Sharks:

    Just trained alongside the Sharks! Fark they are big'uns. Always interesting seeing how they train, lots of weighted plyometric stuff. A couple of props were doing drills. Very fast feet!!

    Finally, SA teams taking Jake the Mus seriously.



  • @Stargazer actually fair point



  • @mikey07 yeah I'd say he will be in the Wellington squad this year, same with the likes of Josh Southall, Tyrone Thompson, Ruben Love etc.



  • Taine Plumtree took part in the light training the Hurricanes had at Kilbirnie Park on Tuesday. He looks decidedly smaller than James Blackwell so would be an ideal replacement given the Canes current lock size criteria preferences.



  • @Higgins Taine is 5cm taller and will no doubt fill out more being a young lad.



  • @Canes4life Goodness, looks can be deceiving. Will have to get my eyes tested again soon as five centimetres can make a big difference to a man if it is applied to the correct body part!



  • @Higgins Lol why were you so close? Go and have another look at him on Saturday. Plumtree and Ah Koui (Chiefs) who played together at school are pretty much identical in height. Both are taller than Blackwell.

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  • @Stargazer Lol Cridge can't even make the Hurricanes development team. Must be really good.



  • @Canes4life I've noticed the condescension in your comment, but I'll let that go. Cridge has been training with the Crusaders during preseason, so maybe he's still there. Or he has to work on Saturday. Plenty of reasons why players don't appear in the line-up of a development team.



  • I think if he wasn’t injured and wanted to make a serious crack at a rugby career he would be available for this match. We might see him in the Crusaders side then if he’s been training down there. Not sure if that has been named yet or not.



  • @Canes4life Damn stole my thunder...well I guess it’s good Flanders is getting game time more then just a 10 min cameo



  • @Canes4life Comedy gold Wellington4life 😉 ... we Magpies fans have been harder on Cridge than anyone as he got promoted to the Canes based on his Canterbury heritage, and then promptly got injured and barely played for anyone including the Magpies. Then when he finally got a decent run of games the Canes dumped him and prefer to play a midget lock from Wellington instead.



  • @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Sharks:

    @Canes4life Comedy gold Wellington4life 😉 ... we Magpies fans have been harder on Cridge than anyone as he got promoted to the Canes based on his Canterbury heritage, and then promptly got injured and barely played for anyone including the Magpies. Then when he finally got a decent run of games the Canes dumped him and prefer to play a midget lock from Wellington instead.

    Begone chiefs fan.



  • @Canes4life

    Is this James Marshall at 10



  • @Winger Yes.



  • @jegga a midget lock that hasn’t let the jersey down, played the most minutes for the Canes last year and has two times the work rate of Cridge. The fact that not even one NZ side wanted him suggests to me that he is just a bit shit or has a attitude problem.



  • @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Sharks:

    @jegga a midget lock that hasn’t let the jersey down, played the most minutes for the Canes last year and has two times the work rate of Cridge. The fact that not even one NZ side wanted him suggests to me that he is just a bit shit or has a attitude problem.

    You would have to wonder,Cridge trained with the Crusaders preseason they then brought in Alex Ainsley over Cridge and Ainsley is still with the squad.Cridge must not of made much of an impression.



  • @Chris @Canes4life Or he's broken again. Or he's made other career choices. Or he's gone overseas. You're all making assumptions.

    There's nothing wrong with Cridge's work rate or attitude. I specifically remember one of the Hurricanes coaches saying one or two years ago - when Cridge was recovering from surgery and training separately from the Canes squad - how hard he trained and how good his attitude was. So that's definitely not it. (I'll try to find the article, if I can find the time).

    Look, I'm not saying he's among the best locks in NZ, but he definitely offers something. Work rate is one of them; height another. He's also pretty quick for a giraffe. And he has more experience than some of the rookies. I get that Canes4life is taking a swipe at a Hawke's Bay player because @Nepia (or was it @Higgins?) is banging on about Blackwell being a midget and me saying I don't rate his boy Peter U-J. That doesn't make it true what you're saying about Cridge though. The only fact here is, that we don't know why he's not been picked by either the Canes or Saders for a development game. There are plenty of possible reasons. Having seen him play more than any of you guys, I'm sure "he's a bit shit" or "has a attitude problem" isn't one of them.



  • @Stargazer said in Hurricanes vs Sharks:

    @Chris @Canes4life Or he's broken again. Or he's made other career choices. Or he's gone overseas. You're all making assumptions.

    There's nothing wrong with Cridge's work rate or attitude. I specifically remember one of the Hurricanes coaches saying one or two years ago - when Cridge was recovering from surgery and training separately from the Canes squad - how hard he trained and how good his attitude was. So that's definitely not it. (I'll try to find the article, if I can find the time).

    Look, I'm not saying he's among the best locks in NZ, but he definitely offers something. Work rate is one of them; height another. He's also pretty quick for a giraffe. And he has more experience than some of the rookies. I get that Canes4life is taking a swipe against a Hawke's Bay player because @Nepia is banging on about Blackwell being a midget and me saying I don't rate his boy Peter U-J. That doesn't make it true what you're saying about Cridge though. The only fact here is, that we don't know why he's not been picked by either the Canes or Saders for a development game. There are plenty of possible reasons. Having seen him play more than any of you guys, I'm sure "not good enough" or "has a attitude problem" isn't one of them.

    Yeah I have seen a lot of Cridge in his early days in coming through the Ranks in CHCH.Alot of people earmarked him for a big future but injuries more than anything stuffed that and probably thats the case again.He always had a good work ethic when he was younger his attitude I don't know about.



  • Last thing I'm going to say about Cridge, but I think this article from November 2018 illustrates very well why rugby may no longer be Cridge's main career choice. His run with injuries is horrendous, and life goes on and bills need to be paid. I'd certainly understand if he'd decide to focus on life outside rugby (and maybe only play club rugby and NPC).

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/108396603/eight-minutes-of-super-rugby-in-four-years-hurricanes-lock-geoff-cridge-crosses-fingers



  • @Stargazer Hey, I'm far from the only one calling our Blackwell as a midget (for a lock, he's a giant compared with most of the population), even Wellington fans are doing it.

    I think it's all you setting off @Canes4life with your PUJ comments. 😉



  • @Nepia none of the above actually. It's becoming a bit of a yawn fest that every time a Magpie player misses out on selection, whether that be in the Canes, under 20s etc, more often than not there seems to be some sort of anomosity against a Wellington player for being higher in the pecking order. I've lost count of how many times @Stargazer has posted on his frustration at a non selection of a Hawkes Bay player. On the other hand I appreciate the fact that you guys are passionate about the players from your region, I'm equally as passionate for the guys in Wellington to succeed, but surely aslong as the right person for the job starts then that should end all debate.

    At the end of the day if a players deserves to be starting in a Canes, Chiefs, Blues .... jersey then so be it. If Toala ends up being better than PUJ, then good on the kid. It just means the Canes will be stronger and at the end of the day that's all that I care about.



  • @Canes4life I'd take your comments at face value and not as a bit of a troll if it wasn't for the fact that on other threads you yourself have complained about plodders in the Canes (often the same plodder we're complaining about). IIRC you've also advocated for many of the players that us Magpies fans have (IWL, McClutchie, Flanders etc).

    Also you complain about @Stargazer being dismissive of PUJ's abilities when you've done the same for Toala despite being complimentary about him last year. At any rate they're both playing together for the Development team anyway.

    Anyway, why shouldn't HB fans be disappointed when our players often struggle to get spots on the Canes but often get picked up by other squads or if we dominate schoolboy rugby and get no players in the secondary schools team? Personally I'd prefer they all played for the Chiefs, but the Canes are supposed to HB's home franchise.

    Anyway, most of this kicked off because you called Cridge a lazy player which suggests you really haven't seen him play. Injured all the time, yep, lazy player when he actually plays, nope.



  • Did I see right? Flanders at 20 against the Sharks having played earlier today for the Dev team?



  • @Number-10 I missed that. Same as against the Jaguares (for which he wasn't named on the bench originally), only now after playing earlier in the afternoon.



  • Prinsep is out! Evans to 8, Kirifi starting at 7, and Flanders onto the bench (20).



  • Aso making a huge difference already.



  • Go the props!!!



  • Wow great try Sharks



  • What a try.

    Fassi is the man.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Sharks:

    What a try.

    Fassi is the man.

    He’s fun to watch.

    It’s scary that SA is starting to bring through more and more incredibly talented black players.



  • Fassi's pass was clearyl forward.



  • Thank fuck they got that one!



  • Glad they checked that. correct decision.

    Evans to blood bin; Flanders on.



  • Christian Cullen goes its a shame, no Christian, full credit to the TMO for reviewing the try..WTA..


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