Hurricanes v Blues



  • @Bovidae said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Holland's post-match comments were interesting. It seems he wasn't happy about how they were penalised at the breakdown and mentioned having to train differently if that is the ref's interpretation. I'd say the Canes were lucky not to be penalised more for ruck offsides, side entries, etc.

    I suspect in private he will read the Riot Act at a few players for losing their composure today. Nothing gained from slating them publicly.

    Ref was fine.



  • @Kirwan would like to see Robinson rested ,he’s a guy that gives 100% and more every game..Tuoiti Marnier looked superb when he came on..



  • @Steven-Harris said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan would like to see Robinson rested ,he’s a guy that gives 100% and more every game..Tuoiti Marnier looked superb when he came on..

    He’s starting to look beaten up, just by how he plays. We need him firing for the back end of the season. Was down a few times before the head knock too.



  • @Kirwan it actually feels great to have options ,as opposed to chasing our tails when we have either not picked up wins or injuries reared their ugly head..I really think this should be Parsons last season, in my opinion we going absolutely nowhere if he stays..



  • @Steven-Harris said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan it actually feels great to have options ,as opposed to chasing our tails when we have either not picked up wins or injuries reared their ugly head..I really think this should be Parsons last season, in my opinion we going absolutely nowhere if he stays..

    I’d like to win some lineouts, which we do when he’s on the park. Plenty of other ball carriers, so he can stop that.

    He manages the refs well too. Had a good chat to the ref, and the next scrum we got to dominate.



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    If I had to sum up that game it was Blues composure versus Canes lack of discipline.

    Out defence and effort was incredible at times, especially considering the travel factor. And the Canes were lucky not to give away another Penalty try and the ref missed at least another two shoulder charges. A real issue for them that tackling technique. Unbelievably stupid.

    It’s such a treat watching a well coached side, with an obvious game plan and the team putting out huge effort after huge effort.

    Plenty to work on, lineout obviously , but this is a good team.

    Return fixture for this one is going to be a beauty.

    That defence coach must be ok 😉





  • @nzzp said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The kicking this year has been really good. You can see them seeing space and putting the ball in there; dragging players out of position, then kicking well. Long way to go, but goddamn it's better than we've seen for a while.

    I love JK to bits as a human, but FFS he appears to be a terrible analyst or rugby coach. I cannot believe he got appointed and then left in place for so long.

    Yep Black’s kicking has been really good. It reminds me a lot of what England do to manipulate their opposition and put themselves in the right areas of the field.

    I’m not sure he’ll ever be AB material, but Black to me looks like the kind of guy who’d be very good playing in the NH.



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    And the Canes were lucky not to give away another Penalty try and the ref missed at least another two shoulder charges. A real issue for them that tackling technique. Unbelievably stupid.

    Well it was “Mana Moana” night after all



  • @Crucial said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    If I had to sum up that game it was Blues composure versus Canes lack of discipline.

    Out defence and effort was incredible at times, especially considering the travel factor. And the Canes were lucky not to give away another Penalty try and the ref missed at least another two shoulder charges. A real issue for them that tackling technique. Unbelievably stupid.

    It’s such a treat watching a well coached side, with an obvious game plan and the team putting out huge effort after huge effort.

    Plenty to work on, lineout obviously , but this is a good team.

    Return fixture for this one is going to be a beauty.

    That defence coach must be ok 😉

    He has to be good at something, shame we had to go through a process of elimination.

    With good selection and an actual game plan, it nice to see Tana finally making a positive contribution. Assuming of course that he’s just not doing what Coventry tells him to do.



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Also, Akira played really well. That try was superb, but he was strong all game. Godo coming back with no matches under his belt

    Second top tackler for the Blues, I think. No misses, lots of good tackles, some strips and good effort for his try. Was busy and worked hard, and if Robinson hadn’t gone off I expect he was due to be subbed. So had to go 80, which will be good for him.

    He’s the best player we have for getting turnovers too.

    Him lining up with Sotutu and Dalton would be pretty interesting!

    One thing he did fantastically well all night, but especially in the second when things got a bit loose, was his clean up work. His ability to pick up messy ball, keep his feet, go forward and buy his team mates time and metres was invaluable there. Just what you want from your eighth man



  • So the first away win against an NZ side since 2013. That was early in Kirwan’s first season

    Unbeaten on the road so far. The last time the Blues won 4 away games in a row was 1997
    (Although Lam’s 2011 side had a sequence of WDWWW on the road)



  • @Duluth Kirwan's first ever game in charge. Geez we've broken some depressing droughts in the last few weeks haha.



  • Only caught the end of the game but big congrats to the Blues for finally breaking that ugly streak. Must be a massive relief and sets them up well for the season now.

    Less said about the Canes the better. If you finish the game with 12 - 13 players then you should expect to lose every fucking time. Idiots.



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Crucial said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    If I had to sum up that game it was Blues composure versus Canes lack of discipline.

    Out defence and effort was incredible at times, especially considering the travel factor. And the Canes were lucky not to give away another Penalty try and the ref missed at least another two shoulder charges. A real issue for them that tackling technique. Unbelievably stupid.

    It’s such a treat watching a well coached side, with an obvious game plan and the team putting out huge effort after huge effort.

    Plenty to work on, lineout obviously , but this is a good team.

    Return fixture for this one is going to be a beauty.

    That defence coach must be ok 😉

    He has to be good at something, shame we had to go through a process of elimination.

    With good selection and an actual game plan, it nice to see Tana finally making a positive contribution. Assuming of course that he’s just not doing what Coventry tells him to do.

    Had some of the best defence stats last year as well.
    Biggest difference at the moment is that the Blues players are finally trusting each other and the game plan. That comes with the confidence of a couple of good wins. Chicken and egg stuff but hopefully for them it sticks. They have always had potential but have been their own worst enemies at times



  • @Kirwan Norm Maxell vII

    Total disregard for his own body.



  • @kev said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Yeetyaah Blues showing they still don’t have enough Senior players directing the traffic. Perfect chance to put a team to the sword but no one took control and accuracy was poor. But a win.

    I think the important aspect was getting the monkey off their back. Last year they would've lost that game.

    It's been a good few weeks for the Blues. They are clearly improving and finally getting the results to improve the confidence in their systems.

    Akira had a good game too.



  • Work on for the Canes. Don't finish the game with 12 players.



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Steven-Harris said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan it actually feels great to have options ,as opposed to chasing our tails when we have either not picked up wins or injuries reared their ugly head..I really think this should be Parsons last season, in my opinion we going absolutely nowhere if he stays..

    I’d like to win some lineouts, which we do when he’s on the park. Plenty of other ball carriers, so he can stop that.

    He manages the refs well too. Had a good chat to the ref, and the next scrum we got to dominate.

    He'd have a total positive benefit to the game if he didn't try running route one.



  • @junior Black lacks a bit of power with his kicking. How many times did he miss the line on penalty kicks? Really poor executing there but great tactically in general play.



  • @kev said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @junior Black lacks a bit of power with his kicking. How many times did he miss the line on penalty kicks? Really poor executing there but great tactically in general play.

    They looked like mishits rather than weak legs to me (still unforgivable mind you). He got plenty of legs on some of his general play kicks.



  • Pleasantly surprised/ Well done Blues, been a long time between drinks as they say.
    Shows what heart and grit and belief will do.



  • Whlist I feel for Lomax )then again maybe not) players are aware of the laws amd these days a tucked shoulder is a complete no-no. A tackling technique 101 class mandatory for all Canes players this week methinks.
    My beef is really with TJ. He is just not the right fit for Canes captain currently. When he should have been circling the wagons and taking stock, calming things down, he was too busy playing the wronged party like a spolt schoolboy to be effective in his core duties. Bro, guys are looking to YOU for leadership and guidance. Bit of maturity wouldn't have gone amiss here. Sadly, the cupboard was bare, and the Canes to their cost, paid the full price.



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  • @Jailbreak7 said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Whlist I feel for Lomax )then again maybe not) players are aware of the laws amd these days a tucked shoulder is a complete no-no. A tackling technique 101 class mandatory for all Canes players this week methinks.
    My beef is really with TJ. He is just not the right fit for Canes captain currently. When he should have been circling the wagons and taking stock, calming things down, he was too busy playing the wronged party like a spolt schoolboy to be effective in his core duties. Bro, guys are looking to YOU for leadership and guidance. Bit of maturity wouldn't have gone amiss here. Sadly, the cupboard was bare, and the Canes to their cost, paid the full price.

    TJs showing last night reminded me of when Ali Williams captained the Blues



  • Was at a function on Friday night with Grant Fox and Glenn Taylor, and Fox reckoned Blues would make finals but didn't have the squad to win.

    Both said it was thier tight 5 making the difference this year with Taylor making special mention of Tuipuluto's form and also Robinson.



  • Blue's defence and general resiliance streets ahead of last year. 😛
    Lineout debacle in first half meant playing for long periods with no ball, and we did well to keep things to 5 points in first quarter. Parsons/GCT made things much better, and GCT seemed to hold up well in loose. Thought the Canes locks faded in second half.
    Not Faine's best game, and Plummer seemed to settle things. Ofa went much better at LH, although much of that post Lomax red. I think I prefer Marchant at 13 and Rieko on wing. Telea is real star, and reeks of X factor.
    For Canes, really liked the look of Kirifi. Bloody nuisance in first half. Laumape liklewise, albeit fairly quiet in second.



  • @pakman Telea has a big workrate too.



  • He looks a fantastic prospect, power, finesse and seems keen to go looking for work.

    Wiki says he was born in Auckland and is of Samoan and SA heritage.



  • Well that was ugly and I bet MacDonald was not very happy. Not sure about all the kicking when you have a 3 man advantage. Lacking a good hooker. Akira acquitted himself well tonight and I hope he is getting the message. His work rate was a lot higher. He is always impressive in tackling as is PT.



  • @sparky He has to string a few games together to show consistency. Telea should have passed that ball to him. Sure it would have ended in a try.



  • @Hooroo no arms



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  • Listening in to Radio Sport this , heaps of blame being lumped on Fraser which is totally unfair, apart from several side entries from both teams that were missed and I put that down to the official having to look at so many other things, in the main, he was transparent and wether you like it or not re the cards , he was spot on..

    My personal take , the Blues defence in the first half especially was the catalyst for the victory , and once the visitors did get possession, it was the home sides discipline that let them down, end of story..I actually believe if the Canes had kept their discipline, they would have probably won this game going away, I have no doubt that while the Blues did not fully put the boot on the throat , I believe the travel factor had caught up with them in the last 15 minutes...it’s a bloody good feeling to wake up this morning knowing the team you support is finally starting show what they are capable of and the positions that have been contentious, 9,10 and 15 are starting look a little more stable .not perfect by any stretch, but on the improve ..
    Que Chris Rattue to be in love with the Blues again



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  • Great coaching.

    @Steven-Harris I thought the defensive pattern and alignment from the Blues in the first half was very good. Other than that very early Lam try, they were well organised. Not sure if that’s because the 9-10 combo are better communicators, but it was good.

    Blues still a little stunted in attack though, but I think that will come as they build confidence from their defensive efforts.



  • @broughie said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Well that was ugly and I bet MacDonald was not very happy. Not sure about all the kicking when you have a 3 man advantage. Lacking a good hooker. Akira acquitted himself well tonight and I hope he is getting the message. His work rate was a lot higher. He is always impressive in tackling as is PT.

    Their ability to think how to take advantage of the numbers was terrible. Kicking the ball away from where the advantage was all the time instead of just pressuring the breakdown over and over until gaps appeared.



  • @Crucial Exactly. You almost thought they were trying to intentionally throw the game away instead of adding points.



  • I didn't mind the kicking. The breakdown was a lottery with that ref. Holding the ball was a reasonable chance of a penalty to the defence.
    The Canes were struggling to get the ball through the midfield so tackling was easy

    The quality of the kicking could have been better though



  • @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    I didn't mind the kicking. The breakdown was a lottery with that ref. Holding the ball was a reasonable chance of a penalty to the defence.
    The Canes were struggling to get the ball through the midfield so tackling was easy

    The quality of the kicking could have been better though

    Are you sure that the best way to take advantage of having three more players is to kick the ball away?
    Surely holding onto the ball and playing with it ups yours odds considerably?


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