NFL 2020



  • Shit, is that official? Only one easy trip to Florida this season, as the Dolphins have also recruited well and have a squillion draft pics. Don't know when the last time was that anyone could say that.



  • You expect crazy rumours the week of the NFL Draft but this one was legit and got finalised so quickly!



  • Draft is on and live at the moment. No surprises, Joe Burrow goes 1 to Cincinatti. Chase Young to Skins for the second pick.

    Should start to get interesting now...



  • @nzzp said in NFL 2020:

    Draft is on and live at the moment. No surprises, Joe Burrow goes 1 to Cincinatti. Chase Young to Skins for the second pick.

    Should start to get interesting now...

    Who will take Tua?



  • @canefan Dolphins took him.

    The very next pick the Chargers get their QB with Justin Herbert. I think Tua would've rather fell one spot in the draft, because Herbert has far better weapons to work with.



  • @Dice said in NFL 2020:

    @canefan Dolphins took him.

    Poor bastard



  • Looks like Tua was pleased to go to Miami. According to ESPN he is likely to be the understudy to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Considering his injuries and the fact the team isn't good, I'd keep him out for most if not all of the season. Let him hold a clipboard and learn the systems all the while giving him valuable healing time for the long term



  • .... and accumulate more draft picks if they happen to be crap



  • The big shocker was the Packers.

    The Packers hadn't selected an offensive skill position player in the first round since picking Rodgers in 2005 - Rodgers has 4 years left on his contract - it was the deepest WR draft in a long time - so the Packers trade up to select...

    ..a quarterback. Jordan Love.

    Wow.



  • @KiwiMurph Rodgers must be wondering who he has to kill to get some help



  • I laughed at the comment that said, 'Rodgers will love Jordan Love like a brother'. If you don't know already, Rodgers' brother's name is Jordan and he hates him.

    Not a big fan of Rodgers, so the trade and pick is a bit funny to me.



  • Have been watching some old NFL games while exercising.

    2014 Seahawks Packers, at Seattle, Championship game.

    Russell Wilson stunk. The Seahawks stunk. And yet, they burgled a late touchdown through a brave fake punt, and then managed a few minutes of magic at the end to draw it.

    I'll be honest, I almost turned off 10 minutes into the third quarter. DIdn't remember the result, and it looked like a dead game to me. How Wrong I Was. This had to be one of the great comebacks to win; up there with the Pats Falcons. Aaron and the Packers must have walked away shaking their heads wondering how they lost.



  • @nzzp that was the beginning of the end of McCarthy as coach of Packers.



  • @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2020:

    @nzzp that was the beginning of the end of McCarthy as coach of Packers.

    Yeah, amazing with a talent like Rodgers that they didn't do better. What a talent.

    Their draft was terrible this year too. If that guys not at Wilson/Brady level, they should have grabbed some of the WR talent running around. Weird times.

    Any tips on great games to watch most welcomed, by the way.



  • @nzzp the NFC title game the year prior - 2013 - 49ers-Falcons is a good watch too.



  • @nzzp said in NFL 2020:

    Any tips on great games to watch most welcomed, by the way.

    As a Cowboys fan I would say the 1992-93 NFC Championship game against the 49ers at Candlestick. Their games in the early 90s were always classics because of the rivalry.



  • @Bovidae @KiwiMurph cheers.

    One of the more memorable for me was the shitty (I think) wildcard playoff Steelers Bengals a few years back, where the Bengals absolutely blew it through anger and indiscipline. It was one of those rare pro games where people stopped being professional, and just started trying to kill or maim the opposition. Raw, brutal, engrossing but I felt a bit dirty watching tbh. Can google the year if anyone cares.

    Burfict is a nasty nasty player



  • Mitch looking on slightly shakier ground in ChiTown

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29127132/source-bears-decline-fifth-year-option-qb-mitchell-trubisky

    Fancy the Bears moving up to get him in the draft ahead of Mahomes and Watson. Ouch



  • @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2020:

    @nzzp the NFC title game the year prior - 2013 - 49ers-Falcons is a good watch too.

    mis-read this and wound up re-watching the 2014 49ers Seahawks championship game. This was one of the ones I watched when I was getting back into NFL.

    Kaepernick was great, such a strong running game. In hindsight, the 49ers got stiffed on a few critical calls in the game; if I'd been a fan I'd have been spitting. Marshawn Lynch is amazing, and Wilson's ability to get out of the pocket and make plays was incredible.

    Aside from a great finish, the highlight had to be Sherman blowing up on camera about Crabtree:

    Well I'm the best corner in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree that's the result you're going to get," Sherman screamed. "Don't you ever talk about me."

    When Andrews asked him who was talking about him, Sherman yelled "CRABTREE" before continuing on his rant.

    "Don't you open your mouth about the best," Sherman yelled. "Or I'm gonna shut it for you real quick. "



  • @canefan Ouch indeed.

    Looked a stretch at the time, turned out to be a bust. Wonder whether the Packers will see the same comparisons in a few years, snatching a QB in the receiver heavy draft



  • @nzzp said in NFL 2020:

    @canefan Ouch indeed.

    Looked a stretch at the time, turned out to be a bust. Wonder whether the Packers will see the same comparisons in a few years, snatching a QB in the receiver heavy draft

    That was a crazy move by GB. Risk alienating Rodgers too



  • @canefan said in NFL 2020:

    @nzzp said in NFL 2020:

    @canefan Ouch indeed.

    Looked a stretch at the time, turned out to be a bust. Wonder whether the Packers will see the same comparisons in a few years, snatching a QB in the receiver heavy draft

    That was a crazy move by GB. Risk alienating Rodgers too

    Yup. I mean, it wasn't trading up to 2 for Trubisky, but still...



  • I really would not be surprised if this is Rodgers last season in Green Bay. NFC seems stronger this year (Eagles back to full health, Bucs with Brady etc) so a step back for Packers this year certainly seems possible. I could see him being traded next offseason (I'd keep my eye on the Raiders - Gruden loves veteran QBs).



  • @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2020:

    I really would not be surprised if this is Rodgers last season in Green Bay. NFC seems stronger this year (Eagles back to full health, Bucs with Brady etc) so a step back for Packers this year certainly seems possible. I could see him being traded next offseason (I'd keep my eye on the Raiders - Gruden loves veteran QBs).

    He can come to SF. Like right now 😉



  • @nzzp said in NFL 2020:

    @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2020:

    @nzzp the NFC title game the year prior - 2013 - 49ers-Falcons is a good watch too.

    mis-read this and wound up re-watching the 2014 49ers Seahawks championship game. This was one of the ones I watched when I was getting back into NFL.

    Also, a notable game for a few things.

    Brutal brutal injury to Navarro Bowman - ironically, winning a turnover that wasn't called. Not reviewable, and a massive miss from the officials.

    Also notable for Lynch (who's an awesome player) not being able to convert on the goal line at 4th and 1, and having a few occasions where he just didn't get penetration. That's life as a running back, I know. But I will go to my grave arguing that the Seahawks call not to give him the ball in That Patriots Superbowl wasn't terrible, and kept the defence honest by keeping running and passing options open. He's a great RB, but no one is guaranteed yardage. The reason Seattle didn't win that SB was poor play design, and a very average decision from Wilson to throw the ball where he did.

    If you're bored, NFL playoff games are usually really high quality and interesting. It's an apex sport; so much money it's insane.



  • Don Shula passes away aged 90. The winningest coach in NFL history (328 wins, 347 including playoffs) and still the only coach of an undefeated team during a season (1972 Miami Dolphins).



  • @Bovidae said in NFL 2020:

    @nzzp said in NFL 2020:

    Any tips on great games to watch most welcomed, by the way.

    As a Cowboys fan I would say the 1992-93 NFC Championship game against the 49ers at Candlestick. Their games in the early 90s were always classics because of the rivalry.

    watching this at the moment. Old. School. The field is atrocious, the commentators (Madden included) are reasonably flat, it's 3:4 ration and standard def ... no wonder we went to the games back then!

    That said, interesting arm wrestle game so far (including cheesy 90's ads)



  • Re-watched the Eli Manning/David Tyree helmet catch Superbowl at the weekend. Great game, the Giants defence was amazing - smashed Brady multiple times. Brady played really well down the stretch, and the eventual Tyree catch was insane. I thought it was notable for a young Steve Smith playing too, but it's the OTHER Steve Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(wide_receiver,_born_1985)

    Anyway, thoroughly enjoyable, particularly to see young Bill Belichek and Tom Coughlan, and for the eventual result (who doesn't love an underdog!).

    I'm still grinding through the normal def Cowboys 49ers, but Rice is an absolute machine. Emmitt Smith is incredible too, but the game is so so different.



  • A bit of news for the Patriots today

    • Patriots punished for filming a Bengals/Browns game last season (fine + loss of draft pick)

    • Patriots sign Cam Newton on a 1 year deal



  • @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2020:

    • Patriots sign Cam Newton on a 1 year deal

    Cannot wait to see Bill coaching Cam. That Will Be Awesome.



  • It will be interesting to see if they throw Cam into the opening game, or hold him in reserve for a while until he gets to know the system.

    With the virus, training camps will be curtailed pretty severely. You think they would be tempted to stick with Stidham at the beginning at least considering he would be familiar with the O-line, plays etc.

    Newton at his best could take this team a long way. Pats had no receivers or RBs to speak of last year, so an X-factor QB could work well. But who knows how healthy he is.



  • @barbarian if he gets on a roll, with Bill's brain scheming with him, that could be just amazing.

    Frankly, I think it was disgraceful the way the league treated him a few years ago. The non-calls on him being hit was horrific, and had to contribute to his current injury state. Always enjoyed watching him play.

    I absolutely loved this exchange:

    You've been watching film huh? Watch this



  • @nzzp the way he likes to play, and the way they structured the offense didn't help. It will be fascinating to see how Bill and he go, I'd get him starting for sure



  • $1.3 million, per week, for a decade.

    Mahomes got paid y'all

    Chiefs probably fucked now though.



  • @mariner4life said in NFL 2020:

    Chiefs probably fucked now though.

    Yeah - should cost them too much, but the way he's been playing, who the hell knows? What a talent - would be delighted to see him and Andy Reid forge a dynasty together. Reid's coaching tree is amazing, such an innovative coach without the championships (until reecently)

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  • @nzzp said in NFL 2020:

    @mariner4life said in NFL 2020:

    Chiefs probably fucked now though.

    Yeah - should cost them too much, but the way he's been playing, who the hell knows? What a talent - would be delighted to see him and Andy Reid forge a dynasty together. Reid's coaching tree is amazing, such an innovative coach without the championships (until reecently)

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    They are screwed now. No more money to pay good players not named Patrick


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