Coronavirus - New Zealand



  • i went through the "newsreader" hair stage and in to just "boofy"



  • @mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    i went through the "newsreader" hair stage and in to just "boofy"

    According to my sons my beard got greyer over lockdown.

    Considering it's usually ginga I guess this is an improvement of sorts.



  • Saw this pop up on crackbook. Not so taken with racism/injustice circle - but we know certain groups are over-represented in data on poor health and lack of access to services. I think you could swap that out for concern about our medical systems (and embedded policy etc) to cope with a pandemic.

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    But I dig the message that there are multiple elements to this shit-show of a pandemic.



  • @mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    A haircut yesterday. Well, clippers, but I wouldn't trust a family member to do it. I had to sign in and out as this is home-based business.

    i got one yesterday as well, i feel like a new man

    The mission I had was getting rid of 2 months of beard growth. I usually have some facial hair as I am too lazy to shave regularly but even my clippers gave up this time.

    BTW, the old fella getting his hair cut before me had a decent mullet going. I was impressed.



  • 0 new cases again, 4 days in a row. 5 recovered, 0 in hospital. Total active cases now 30.



  • @Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    0 new cases again, 4 days in a row. 5 recovered, 0 in hospital. Total active cases now 30.

    If there is a table, I can work that out...… 🙂



  • @Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    A haircut yesterday. Well, clippers, but I wouldn't trust a family member to do it. I had to sign in and out as this is home-based business.

    i got one yesterday as well, i feel like a new man

    The mission I had was getting rid of 2 months of beard growth. I usually have some facial hair as I am too lazy to shave regularly but even my clippers gave up this time.

    BTW, the old fella getting his hair cut before me had a decent mullet going. I was impressed.

    I've stayed on my regular shave rotation

    continued to give the old fella a haircut too...



  • @mariner4life good to hear you were taking care of the lady garden.

    oh god. Your old man isn't living with you is he!

    🙂



  • I didnt shave or trim my beard for the duration, was last Thursday I trimmed the beard, then a haircut on Tuesday...wife and kids reckon I looked better with the longer beard though! 🤔



  • @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I didnt shave or trim my beard for the duration, was last Thursday I trimmed the beard, then a haircut on Tuesday...wife and kids reckon I looked better with the longer beard though! 🤔

    Never bloody happy hey?



  • No haircut or shave for 6 weeks. Couldn't actually see me under all of the hair, so appearance wise, I really was at my best.



  • Getting sex and grooming seem to directly correlate.....who woulda thought ?



  • @MN5 Inversely correlate in my case - the wife couldn't actually see me which apparently was a good thing (actually she seemed to like the wild man look). I did wash, so wild but clean, seemed to work.



  • @nzzp said in NZ Politics:

    @Crucial said in NZ Politics:

    Where is all the talk about not needing to go so hard compared to Oz now? They are now more restricted than us and although they have done well they haven't cleared the spread up enough to go back to normal life. It was always said that the hard and horrible tactic would see us coming back out quickly.

    They've basically wound up in teh same place - 6 new cases yesterday, and without the massive lockdown. I think lockdown was a good call, but the critique is always how quickly we can come out of it, and the damage done in the mean time.

    https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers#at-a-glance

    I disagree that they are in the same place. They are headed there but are still getting community transmissions at low numbers. That means that loosening up runs a risk of another outbreak.
    It has been a fallacy all along that Oz didn't take the same 'hit' that we did as far as business goes. The restrictions may have looked better on paper but the reality was that people weren't going out and spending anyway. They still had the same hit as us in tourism for example.
    Their current restrictions (State by State) are quite strict.
    As you say the proof is in how quickly we can get back to a reasonably 'normal' state where (some industries aside) people are going about their usual business, going to work, buying lunches, spending in shops etc.

    My point really was that anywhere that we look in a 'better' position lifestyle wise by comparison with others is a plus to Labour.

    NB: shifted this to the Coronavirus thread but it started as a post in the NZ Politics one. (much crossover)



  • @Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @nzzp said in NZ Politics:

    @Crucial said in NZ Politics:

    Where is all the talk about not needing to go so hard compared to Oz now? They are now more restricted than us and although they have done well they haven't cleared the spread up enough to go back to normal life. It was always said that the hard and horrible tactic would see us coming back out quickly.

    They've basically wound up in teh same place - 6 new cases yesterday, and without the massive lockdown. I think lockdown was a good call, but the critique is always how quickly we can come out of it, and the damage done in the mean time.

    https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers#at-a-glance

    I disagree that they are in the same place. They are headed there but are still getting community transmissions at low numbers. That means that loosening up runs a risk of another outbreak.

    I went and had a look, but couldn't see much on the source of infection. Do you know of any decent sources?

    This (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704?nw=0#sourceofinfection) seemed to suggest that from May 13-20 (the last week of data), there were no new community spread cases (unknowns static at 713). The week before still had a fair bit of unknown though, with about 25 cases with 'unknown' source through the week.

    I know data depends on how you look at it, but if they aren't where we are, they seemed pretty close. Keen to see if there is data I don't know about though.



  • @nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @nzzp said in NZ Politics:

    @Crucial said in NZ Politics:

    Where is all the talk about not needing to go so hard compared to Oz now? They are now more restricted than us and although they have done well they haven't cleared the spread up enough to go back to normal life. It was always said that the hard and horrible tactic would see us coming back out quickly.

    They've basically wound up in teh same place - 6 new cases yesterday, and without the massive lockdown. I think lockdown was a good call, but the critique is always how quickly we can come out of it, and the damage done in the mean time.

    https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers#at-a-glance

    I disagree that they are in the same place. They are headed there but are still getting community transmissions at low numbers. That means that loosening up runs a risk of another outbreak.

    I went and had a look, but couldn't see much on the source of infection. Do you know of any decent sources?

    This (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704?nw=0#sourceofinfection) seemed to suggest that from May 13-20 (the last week of data), there were no new community spread cases (unknowns static at 713). The week before still had a fair bit of unknown though, with about 25 cases with 'unknown' source through the week.

    I know data depends on how you look at it, but if they aren't where we are, they seemed pretty close. Keen to see if there is data I don't know about though.

    This is the big unknown that every country is going through. How safe is 'pretty close' if you don't know the source. The hard NZ approach was to get to a position where we could feel comfortable that any new cases were from known origins and further spread could be shut down.
    With 'pretty close' you have unknowns out there that could cause a resurgence.

    I'm not having a crack at Oz at all though. They have also done a pretty good job. But the longer they have to hold more restrictions than us the better we (and therefore the current Govt approach) looks to voters. They will feel that correct decisions were made and that gives confidence.



  • 1 new case, 3 recovered, 28 active cases. Tests have now passed 250,000, so about 5% of the population.

    The new case is in the St Margaret's cluster and has been in isolation since the start of level 4. 8 weeks... Dang...



  • @Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    The new case is in the St Margaret's cluster and has been in isolation since the start of level 4. 8 weeks... Dang...

    so what does that mean, they were supposedly infected 8 weeks back, and are still infectious now?



  • @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    The new case is in the St Margaret's cluster and has been in isolation since the start of level 4. 8 weeks... Dang...

    so what does that mean, they were supposedly infected 8 weeks back, and are still infectious now?

    Don't know, the press release doesn't say much and there's no press conference till Monday. Scary thought though that 8 weeks isn't enough.



  • IOS and Android were updated today with their joint API to support contact tracing. So I guess since the app was already available, that means they aren’t using this API?

    Hard pass from me then.



  • another day, another 0...27 active cases and 1 in HOspital, not in ICU.

    So is that 2 new cases in the past week?

    I wonder what 'normal' flu numbers are like currently (I realise we arent in full flu season yet)



  • @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    another day, another 0...27 active cases and 1 in HOspital, not in ICU.

    So is that 2 new cases in the past week?

    I wonder what 'normal' flu numbers are like currently (I realise we arent in full flu season yet)

    1 new case in past 7 days isn't it?



  • I went to a mall yesterday and it was packed. You'd think if it were still in the community at all it'd be spiking under level 2 by now.



  • Kind of related, but the flu tracker shows this flu season is anything but normal
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  • @nzzp More vaccinations this year, and lockdown, physical distancing and better hygiene.



  • @nzzp almost like people staying home when they have bugs and washing their goddamned hands helps with lots of things. Whoda thunk it.



  • @Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    IOS and Android were updated today with their joint API to support contact tracing. So I guess since the app was already available, that means they aren’t using this API?

    Hard pass from me then.

    I'm no app developer but I really can't see why this tracing thing is so difficult when they aren't trying anything complicated or new.

    Apps like Strava or Trailforks or Skitracks have become pretty battery efficient and something for this purpose only needs to ping a coordinate every 5 minutes or so. Elevation data can also be removed and speed calls aren't required. A stripped down GPS locator on your phone that stores data which automatically deletes after say 21 days would provide people with the ability to provide tracking data if they tested positive. Also, as per the proposed update to the current one, an file can be sent periodically to have cross checked against potential contact. It could be done anonymously as well. The current QR code thing is a mess.

    I'd be happy to turn on my tracker when I leave home, let it store my data and periodically check against a contact list.



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    From the media release:

    NZ COVID Tracer app

    The NZ COVID Tracer app has now recorded 380,000 registrations – that’s an increase of 17,000 since 5pm on Sunday.

    We continue to encourage as many people as possible to download the app – it will help us identify, trace, test and isolate any cases of COVID-19.

    The Ministry is also very supportive of the work done by businesses to get their unique QR codes up and running, with 13,600 posters having been created as of midday.

    If people are having issues with the app, we want to know so we can get the problems fixed.

    The Ministry website has lots of FAQs about the app, and you can report issues by freephone or email.

    To reinforce on privacy:

    • personal information and contact details provided through the app will only be used to get in touch if an individual is identified as a close contact of a COVID-19 case

    • information about the locations individuals choose to record is stored securely on their phone and is not shared with contact tracers unless an individual chooses to do so.

    In either case, the personal information shared with the Ministry is held for public health purposes only and will never be used for enforcement.



  • At first I couldn't be bothered with the Tracer App but after a night in Auckland, it would be handy to have rather than having to sign in and out of bars and restaurants.

    We had intended to go to Wellington for long weekend, but pulled pin on that this morning. Had we gone, I would have definitely got the app.



  • Gathering limit to increase to 100 from Friday noon (29 May). Next check-in on alert level 1 is in 2 weeks, with a further check-in 2 weeks after that.



  • I assume that limit also includes community sport? I might be able to get out on the field again.



  • @Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    IOS and Android were updated today with their joint API to support contact tracing. So I guess since the app was already available, that means they aren’t using this API?

    Hard pass from me then.

    I'm no app developer but I really can't see why this tracing thing is so difficult when they aren't trying anything complicated or new.

    Apps like Strava or Trailforks or Skitracks have become pretty battery efficient and something for this purpose only needs to ping a coordinate every 5 minutes or so. Elevation data can also be removed and speed calls aren't required. A stripped down GPS locator on your phone that stores data which automatically deletes after say 21 days would provide people with the ability to provide tracking data if they tested positive. Also, as per the proposed update to the current one, an file can be sent periodically to have cross checked against potential contact. It could be done anonymously as well. The current QR code thing is a mess.

    I'd be happy to turn on my tracker when I leave home, let it store my data and periodically check against a contact list.

    It’s not technically difficult, it’s difficult to do in a way that keeps data private and avoid being misused by governments.

    More authoritarian governments would love an app that not only acts as an ID Card, but keeps track of everywhere you go, who you meet, or call, or email and throw in your search history and banking details for giggles.

    Be like volunteering to wiretap yourself.

    I’ve lost count of the number of apologies by Facebook, for example, “accidentally” grabbing more detail that they needed.

    This is not a door we want opened, be impossible to close. It’s why Australia’s government’s war on math in trying to ban encryption (or impractically put in backdoors) is so dangerous. Also shows it can happen here.



  • @Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I assume that limit also includes community sport? I might be able to get out on the field again.

    Yup, so we are looking at having gaps between games, so you don't get cross over. But kids sport, incl parents/supporters, a go - as long as it does not add up to more than 100 at a time. Adults sport, the same, you've still got to contract trace everyone there, and make sure groups don't go over 100. I'm sure more guidance will come from SPort NZ etc soonish



  • @Machpants The contact tracing for my team will be my responsibility as the player/manager. We tend to have the same people watching most weeks, so as long as random strangers don't turn up it shouldn't be a major issue.



  • @Bovidae yup same here, just easy not to have to do it. Season is going until end of September now.

    In other news



  • Another day with zero new cases & zero deaths.

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    The person in hospital is not in ICU.
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    The NZ COVID Tracer app has now recorded 405,000 registrations – that’s an increase of 25,000 since this time yesterday.



  • @Stargazer 22 active cases is another highlight of that!



  • And yet, L1 is a month away....



  • @voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    And yet, L1 is a month away....

    It all started from one person. We have to make sure that one person isn’t waiting to surprise us.
    To be honest I’m not noticing a hell of a lot of difference to normal at the moment apart from closed borders and less flight options.



  • @Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    And yet, L1 is a month away....

    It all started from one person. We have to make sure that one person isn’t waiting to surprise us.
    To be honest I’m not noticing a hell of a lot of difference to normal at the moment apart from closed borders and less flight options.

    @Crucial Do you mean that your normal routine isn't impacted, or that it feels like 'business as usual' when you're out and about?


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