Coronavirus - New Zealand



  • @dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Machpants Depending on how effective they are. Current tests don't mean you're clear even if you come back negative.

    I think the border could be closed to a lot of the world for a very long time.

    If the current measures work we eliminate COVID-19 from NZ but have no herd immunity. So the moment we open borders again we put ourselves back into our current situation - until either a vaccine is developed or the whole of the rest of the world is clear.

    My thoughts too. Listening to Fauci, he believes that the NH could be hit again later in the year (their next winter) so they are looking closely at what happens in the SH as winter is coming. Without an effective vaccine all countries will be taking a risk to open their borders.



  • @Bovidae Pandemic planning always has 2-3 waves minimum /joy germ



  • @dogmeat Yep, I think you're right



  • If testing is reliable enough, shorter isolation might work (negative test before departure, second test at the prescribed interval), but short holidays are probably impractical for the foreseeable future without a vaccine or antiviral medication.

    We might manage to get Aussie and the islands on the safe list a bit faster.



  • @voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    The no cars def makes it so tough. We were hoping to move from our current digs to another place in a few days - the new place is isolated, empty and unattended, so we could have no contact with anyone in transit or at the end. But the updated advice seems pretty clear that we are not allowed to move

    Pretty clear you are not supposed to move. There is no grey area.



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    The no cars def makes it so tough. We were hoping to move from our current digs to another place in a few days - the new place is isolated, empty and unattended, so we could have no contact with anyone in transit or at the end. But the updated advice seems pretty clear that we are not allowed to move

    Pretty clear you are not supposed to move. There is no grey area.

    You're like an echo 🙂



  • @canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Hooroo I think he means restrictions for people coming in. Not sure they would go the 14 day route, but they might check for temps?

    The UK is talking about testing kits that can be done in minutes, so that will be pretty effective at the border

    My mate reckons the tests aren't always accurate. A person who has the early stage of the disease can return a negative test. So they will need more accurate testing if they expect to open the borders

    NZ maybe saved a little bit here by being so far from anywhere? Early stages gets an extra 4 or so hours at least to develop...



  • Defence force (army) ready to step in if Public don't comply!

    I love that!

    I remember when the prison guard went on strike and we had to step in. That made me feel glad that I had joined the RNZAF. We contributed.

    Make no mistake, the grunts will show a shed load less compassion and education than the Police.



  • @Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Make no mistake, the grunts will show a shed load less compassion and education than the Police.

    Good, by that point softly softly hasn't worked



  • @Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Make no mistake, the grunts will show a shed load less compassion and education than the Police.

    Good, by that point softly softly hasn't worked

    Yep! More fool anyone who thinks their own freedom is more important than that of the collective.



  • @Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Hooroo I think he means restrictions for people coming in. Not sure they would go the 14 day route, but they might check for temps?

    The UK is talking about testing kits that can be done in minutes, so that will be pretty effective at the border

    My mate reckons the tests aren't always accurate. A person who has the early stage of the disease can return a negative test. So they will need more accurate testing if they expect to open the borders

    NZ maybe saved a little bit here by being so far from anywhere? Early stages gets an extra 4 or so hours at least to develop...

    It can be days apparently... this covid 19 is a nasty little beastie



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  • Glengarry has been cleared to trade online for the next 4 weeks



  • https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/120602978/coronavirus-mad-butcher-shops-open-despite-rules-excluding-butchers

    I feel for butchers who stocked up after apparently being told they would be allowed to trade, then forced to close. But this is irresponsible



  • @canefan reading both the (fucken fantastic) butcher and the fruit & veg store in Eastbourne were forced to close, can't even do deliveries, which is pretty shit. 4 Square is there but failing that you have to go in Petone/Lower Hutt and mix with a lot more people.



  • Our local Mad Butcher has closed according to their FB page.



  • @Bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @canefan reading both the (fucken fantastic) butcher and the fruit & veg store in Eastbourne were forced to close, can't even do deliveries, which is pretty shit. 4 Square is there but failing that you have to go in Petone/Lower Hutt and mix with a lot more people.

    I can't see the harm in online trading. I bought fish from Takitimu fisheries in HB they will courier it up. And my mate in karori says his local butcher and fruit shop are online deliveries



  • I usually don't pop into this area of the fern but in the current situation, I'm just looking for some semblance of community.

    My personal situation is simple: I live in a Wellington boarding house/former backpacker with about 30 other residents, many of whom are retirees and over 65. It's certainly interesting living in such an environment. But if someone were to get sick, we're screwed. There are a lot of these places, more than you'd have thought, particularly in towns and cities where accommodation is expensive as all get out.

    I would note that the older residents including myself are pretty much just getting on with things as much as we can, checking on those who might be doing it a little tougher. There are a couple of ex-servicemen here as well as a former ICTY investigator who was stationed in the Balkans in the 90s which has helped avoid hysteria and quashed a few of the I read it on Facebook/Twitter so it must be true.

    Anyway just thought I'd check in.



  • @SynicBast stay safe mate



  • @canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/120602978/coronavirus-mad-butcher-shops-open-despite-rules-excluding-butchers

    I feel for butchers who stocked up after apparently being told they would be allowed to trade, then forced to close. But this is irresponsible

    Any more irresponsible than a supermarket? They're selling food ffs. How is that not essential?



  • @antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Any more irresponsible than a supermarket? They're selling food ffs. How is that not essential?

    You would think the more wider spread of food the better - to a limit.

    If I need to stock up on ground beef, chicken and some steaks for the week better to just go to the butcher rather than the supermarket.



  • The main people at risk are the staff, not the customers. So fewer, tightly controlled, places open is better.



  • I went to Countdown last night (impulse was walking past and there were no queues and needed a few things)

    Really impressed with how well it was set up. Yellow lines to keep you back from the counters x marks the spot on where to stand to get served and still observe 2 metres. Only I would guess about 50 people in the store. Same thing with x's at the checkouts. Good effort all round.

    Plus it was chocker - no empty shelves at all. Plus 2 trucks waiting to get into the loading dock. Staff member saud the day had been really quiet. Guess the panic buying is over.

    There were a lot of people out walking and jogging. I might normally see 4-5 when I go for my walk. Last night over 100.

    Roads are noticeably quieter again this morning. I'm the only one logged on across our network. All the lazy buggers working from home have rolled over and gone back to sleep 🙂



  • @dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Roads are noticeably quieter again this morning. I'm the only one logged on across our network. All the lazy buggers working from home have rolled over and gone back to sleep 🙂

    Clearly! Why aren't they on the Fern generating content for us early risers.

    losers.



  • @dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Really impressed with how well it was set up. Yellow lines to keep you back from the counters x marks the spot on where to stand to get served and still observe 2 metres.

    What is funny is that in Sydney the only store I've seen take these kinds of precautions (also remembering we're not on full lockdown due I think mostly to the hairdressing lobby 😉 ) is JB Hifi. They have two security on the door with in and out lanes, and all their main thoroughfares are cleared. You know how normally it just looks like they throw everything in randomly and you haven't to bump past people and stuff normally. Then they have spacing and sanitiser at the checkout.

    What's weird is that you know how JB Hifi's are supposed to super friendly, the staff where normal clothes so you can't tell who is who sometimes. The checkout staff at the Broadway store are the surliest I've ever seen. The floor staff are fine though.



  • it is scary AF to think 2 weeks ago was my final game of summer Touch Rugby, this time last week I was on a school camp, now we are in lockdown!

    Getting alot of work done though!



  • @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Getting alot of work done though!

    you're among friends here mate. No need for the bullshit



  • @mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    you're among friends here mate. No need for the bullshit

    haha I am, even with my ferning, no colleagues to talk additional shit with!



  • I'm getting no work done. As someone who has worked from home for the past three years, it really sucks not being able to escape these walls for a break. I'm actually giddy at the thought of going to the supermarket next week, even if I do have to wear a hazmet suit or some shit.

    Next book release day is May 11, so I'm kind of hoping the worst is over by then. My main markets are USA, UK, Canada, Australia, and Germany, so I'm keeping an eye on how things are going in those countries. But this month has sucked sales wise. Gonna be lean times ahead.



  • @Mokey said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I'm getting no work done. As someone who has worked from home for the past three years, it really sucks not being able to escape these walls for a break. I'm actually giddy at the thought of going to the supermarket next week, even if I do have to wear a hazmet suit or some shit.

    Next book release day is May 11, so I'm kind of hoping the worst is over by then. My main markets are USA, UK, Canada, Australia, and Germany, so I'm keeping an eye on how things are going in those countries. But this month has sucked sales wise. Gonna be lean times ahead.

    You might sell a few more kindle copies than hard copies.....



  • @canefan 99% of my sales are ebooks, so no difference there!



  • @Mokey said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @canefan 99% of my sales are ebooks, so no difference there!

    People are stuck at home and will need something to do. A little fap material for your readers will be warmly received I reckon!!



    • There are 85 new cases in the last 24 hours - 76 confirmed and nine probable. This takes the total count to 368. There are no new clusters.
    • Testing has ramped up, to date over 12,000 have been completed. Facilities have been set up around the country.
    • Eight people are stable in hospital - 6 are stable, two are in ICU.
    • 37 people have recovered.


  • @canefan Haha, this will be my filthiest book yet, so they'd better gird their loins.



  • @Mokey said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @canefan Haha, this will be my filthiest book yet, so they'd better gird their loins.

    glorious



  • @mariner4life Just doing my bit to save the world.



  • Also doesn't hog bandwidth like porn hub



  • @Mokey said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @mariner4life Just doing my bit to save the world.

    not all heroes wear clothes



  • @Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    • There are 85 new cases in the last 24 hours - 76 confirmed and nine probable. This takes the total count to 368. There are no new clusters.
    • Testing has ramped up, to date over 12,000 have been completed. Facilities have been set up around the country.
    • Eight people are stable in hospital - 6 are stable, two are in ICU.
    • 37 people have recovered.

    Looks like the call to close everything down was spot on. Community transmission ongoing, but not being tested for by the look of things.

    What will be interesting is seeing how this starts to tail off in the next week or so. Social distancing started a week or so back, and really ramped up this week.



  • @nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    • There are 85 new cases in the last 24 hours - 76 confirmed and nine probable. This takes the total count to 368. There are no new clusters.
    • Testing has ramped up, to date over 12,000 have been completed. Facilities have been set up around the country.
    • Eight people are stable in hospital - 6 are stable, two are in ICU.
    • 37 people have recovered.

    Looks like the call to close everything down was spot on. Community transmission ongoing, but not being tested for by the look of things.

    What will be interesting is seeing how this starts to tail off in the next week or so. Social distancing started a week or so back, and really ramped up this week.

    Hopefully the authorities are all over stamping out lock down dodgers


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