Pick your clubs all time team.



  • @Chris-B Pretty handy! And noone is going to name a side on this thread with a greater number of maligned individuals!



  • I wouldn't have the first clue where to start with Marist Albion. Very good side in the mid-to-late 90s though which included Tabai Matson, Steve Lancaster, Chris Hammett, Kevin Nepia and Angus Gardiner. Then from around 2000 Johnny Leo'o and Ben Blair. Maybe also Tala Kele in the 90s.



  • @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    stepping away from rugby to cricket . . .

    Albion Cricket Club (Dunedin) First XI

    1. Glenn Turner
    2. Mark Richardson
    3. Andrew Jones
    4. Bert Sutcliffe
    5. Ken Rutherford
    6. Brendon McCullum
    7. Nathan McCullum
    8. John Bracewell
    9. Martin Snedden
    10. Neil Wagner
    11. Alexander Downes

    12th man: Mark Craig.

    Bloody hell, that is really impressive.



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    stepping away from rugby to cricket . . .

    Albion Cricket Club (Dunedin) First XI

    1. Glenn Turner
    2. Mark Richardson
    3. Andrew Jones
    4. Bert Sutcliffe
    5. Ken Rutherford
    6. Brendon McCullum
    7. Nathan McCullum
    8. John Bracewell
    9. Martin Snedden
    10. Neil Wagner
    11. Alexander Downes

    12th man: Mark Craig.

    Bloody hell, that is really impressive.

    Bit light in the pace bowling department and Albion always was a little creative with their claims for these guys (Sutcliffe played 1 season for Albion and about 14 for North East Valley when he was in Dunedin) but yes, not bad. Proud to be an honorary vice president there.



  • @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    stepping away from rugby to cricket . . .

    Albion Cricket Club (Dunedin) First XI

    1. Glenn Turner
    2. Mark Richardson
    3. Andrew Jones
    4. Bert Sutcliffe
    5. Ken Rutherford
    6. Brendon McCullum
    7. Nathan McCullum
    8. John Bracewell
    9. Martin Snedden
    10. Neil Wagner
    11. Alexander Downes

    12th man: Mark Craig.

    Bloody hell, that is really impressive.

    Bit light in the pace bowling department and Albion always was a little creative with their claims for these guys (Sutcliffe played 1 season for Albion and about 14 for North East Valley when he was in Dunedin) but yes, not bad. Proud to be an honorary vice president there.

    Good on you. Sounds like a club to be proud of., is it good socially?



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    stepping away from rugby to cricket . . .

    Albion Cricket Club (Dunedin) First XI

    1. Glenn Turner
    2. Mark Richardson
    3. Andrew Jones
    4. Bert Sutcliffe
    5. Ken Rutherford
    6. Brendon McCullum
    7. Nathan McCullum
    8. John Bracewell
    9. Martin Snedden
    10. Neil Wagner
    11. Alexander Downes

    12th man: Mark Craig.

    Bloody hell, that is really impressive.

    Bit light in the pace bowling department and Albion always was a little creative with their claims for these guys (Sutcliffe played 1 season for Albion and about 14 for North East Valley when he was in Dunedin) but yes, not bad. Proud to be an honorary vice president there.

    Good on you. Sounds like a club to be proud of., is it good socially?

    It was. I'm in Wellington now and haven't played for ages. But the memorabilia in the club rooms is out of this world, thanks to the efforts of the late Warwick Larkins. There's a corner of the rooms set up to the club's triple-hundred scorers (Sutcliffe, Richardson, Turner, Rutherford, McCullum) and a stack of random shirts etc. I was club captain in the late 90s (despite being 19 when the drinking age was 20) & the fact we didn't have a liquor license at the time - something they avoided sorting for another 10 years or so - meant some of the drinks deals were incredibly stupid. But fun.

    From what I hear, the culture is still very strong. I was on the committee again when I moved back down in 2012 until leaving in 2016 and when I did attend, the rooms were pretty full on a Saturday night.



  • @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Smudge said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    stepping away from rugby to cricket . . .

    Albion Cricket Club (Dunedin) First XI

    1. Glenn Turner
    2. Mark Richardson
    3. Andrew Jones
    4. Bert Sutcliffe
    5. Ken Rutherford
    6. Brendon McCullum
    7. Nathan McCullum
    8. John Bracewell
    9. Martin Snedden
    10. Neil Wagner
    11. Alexander Downes

    12th man: Mark Craig.

    Bloody hell, that is really impressive.

    Bit light in the pace bowling department and Albion always was a little creative with their claims for these guys (Sutcliffe played 1 season for Albion and about 14 for North East Valley when he was in Dunedin) but yes, not bad. Proud to be an honorary vice president there.

    Good on you. Sounds like a club to be proud of., is it good socially?

    It was. I'm in Wellington now and haven't played for ages. But the memorabilia in the club rooms is out of this world, thanks to the efforts of the late Warwick Larkins. There's a corner of the rooms set up to the club's triple-hundred scorers (Sutcliffe, Richardson, Turner, Rutherford, McCullum) and a stack of random shirts etc. I was club captain in the late 90s (despite being 19 when the drinking age was 20) & the fact we didn't have a liquor license at the time - something they avoided sorting for another 10 years or so - meant some of the drinks deals were incredibly stupid. But fun.

    From what I hear, the culture is still very strong. I was on the committee again when I moved back down in 2012 until leaving in 2016 and when I did attend, the rooms were pretty full on a Saturday night.

    I love that stuff aye, Guys like you who are prepared to muck in and make a club actually tick are heroes without capes.
    My old club was pretty good as well. Back in the 90's some of my fondest memories are drinking in the club and then taking a very short stroll into town for more. WBOP is currently blessed with a few guys who really step in junior cricket and the scene is very good.
    In a sad development that I take ZERO pleasure in that my club is the only one in Tga with its own club rooms, not having proper club rooms kills a club IMO.

    WBOP cricket is ludicrously strong. So much talent coming through, so many current black caps and ND players. Many have moved to the area, but they still contribute. Junior cricket is run really well in these parts.



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback is that true? What happened? When I was playing Baywide every one had a clubrooms, and most had nice grounds. It was why i loved it over Hamilton premier that was all played on one park (handily at the end of my street)



  • @mariner4life said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @Baron-Silas-Greenback is that true? What happened? When I was playing Baywide every one had a clubrooms, and most had nice grounds. It was why i loved it over Hamilton premier that was all played on one park (handily at the end of my street)

    Yeah
    Albion folded as a senior club, clubrooms went to Otumoetai Soccer
    Mount clubrooms got bowled over for Bay oval, sharing with rugby club didn't go well, allegedly they didn't do a good job if working with rugby or council.
    Greerton lost clubrooms to soccer
    TBC never had clubrooms.
    Otumoetai Cadets has nice clubrooms close to town with great ground and good grass wicket.

    I think that is most of them. The council is demanding multi tenants and that has screwed over cricket clubs, Cadets got lucky as they share with BOP referees association, and they are easy and non demanding, especially compared to dealing with soccer asshats who demand year round preference.



  • Is rotorua and te puke gone as well? There was that one amazing ground in rotorua, in a natural bowl. Great deck on it too.



  • Bloody clubrooms. Marist had rooms on Mandeville St in Riccarton when I was at school (unsure where the home ground was) and by the time I played for them from 1997, they'd amalgamated with Albion and were at Lochee Rd, Riccarton, on a site with several fields sharing facilities with The Riccarton Club whilst also having adjoining rooms of their own. This was a great set up, and we were able to walk to our sponsor pub on Blenheim Rd as well. Latterly all that set up somehow turned to shit and now they share a bowling club on Condell Ave, Bishopdale. Unsure if they play at the adjacent fields these days, but suspect still Lochee Rd.



  • @dogmeat anything for the mighty cote?



  • @shark Yes they play at Condell Ave these days. Been there for a few years now.



  • @African-Monkey said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @shark Yes they play at Condell Ave these days. Been there for a few years now.

    Thanks for clarifying. I thought I recalled a score update cross last year on Red n Black radio that had them at Lochee Rd, but I must have been deluded, or drunk, or severely hung.



  • @mariner4life said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    Is rotorua and te puke gone as well? There was that one amazing ground in rotorua, in a natural bowl. Great deck on it too.

    Te Puke.. I think has lost clubrooms as well.
    Smallbone is awesome, but all the teams over there have changed. Hard to keep up. None of teams you played still exist



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @mariner4life said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    Is rotorua and te puke gone as well? There was that one amazing ground in rotorua, in a natural bowl. Great deck on it too.

    Te Puke.. I think has lost clubrooms as well.
    Smallbone is awesome, but all the teams over there have changed. Hard to keep up. None of teams you played still exist

    That's so strange to think



  • @mariner4life Central folded, St Michael's folded, RBHS doesn't have a real cricket program. A team called Indians started up in B grade did well and to Prem grade, then changed to be Central Indians, some team called Geyser city us still knocking about. Taupo as well has a Prem team.
    Things aren't as grim as I appear to be saying, the scene is still strong, very strong.



  • @Canes4life Even though Tana was from my hometown he never actually played for Wainui so you can have him



  • My Wainuiomata team

    15.Josh Robertson Weepu
    14.Uale Mai
    13.Peter Umanga-Jenson
    12.Thomas Umaga-Jenson
    11.Jonah Lomu
    10.Earl Va’a
    9.Piri Weepu
    8.Marvin Karawana
    7.Gensis Mamea
    6.Henry Stowers
    5.Sharne Eru
    4.Bevan Clark my mates lil bro absolute beast though
    3.Justin Va’a
    2.Deon Leolofi
    1.Dave Va’a



  • This is tough! Or more likely my memory is crap.

    HOBM Eagles.
    15 Colin Sullivan
    14 Chase Tiatia (or Bernie Fraser if we can go back to pre-amalgamation)
    13 Misi Fata-Meafou
    12
    11 Hosea Gear
    10 Jon Bentley
    9 Piri Weepu
    8 Doug Power
    7 Semo Sititi
    6 Gavin Hill
    5 Jeremy Thrush
    4
    3
    2 Elvis Taione
    1

    Eastbourne

    4 Sam Lousi



  • @Daffy-Jaffy Geez we really are stacked with talent over the years aren't we? We could name quite a few sides and still be strong.



  • @Bones You reckon we could get a game each out of Piri 😂



  • @JK This is too hard. Be easier if I could pick leaguies

    1 Ron Williams
    2
    3 James Afoa
    4 Snow White (OK he was a LHP but he also played TH and Lock for the AB's)
    5 Nick Williams (we are light on locks)
    6
    7
    8 Pod Turner
    9 Bryn Hall / Brett Craies
    10
    11 Richard Kapa
    12
    13 Marc Ellis
    14 Karl Te Nana
    15



  • @dogmeat said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @JK This is too hard. Be easier if I could pick leaguies

    1 Ron Williams
    2
    3 James Afoa
    4 Snow White (OK he was a LHP but he also played TH and Lock for the AB's)
    5 Nick Williams (we are light on locks)
    6
    7
    8 Pod Turner
    9 Bryn Hall / Brett Craies
    10 Mike Harris
    11 Richard Kapa
    12
    13 Marc Ellis
    14 Karl Te Nana
    15

    A few other names I recall from back in the day are Paul Carlton (but we good for wingers), Craig Burgess (was he a 15?) and some Ward fella who I think was a loosie who was either bloody quick or offside 80% of the time but he was a machine. Room for any Mayhews? I also think Wayne Pivac played for both Northcote and Takapuna (not sure how anyone could bring themselves to do that!)

    Added Mike Harris at 10.



  • I only remember Craies as a 1st 5.



  • @ JK I was trying to pick guys who would be widely recognised rather than club stalwarts but yeah I'll through in a couple of Mayhews. Pivac did start with Cotes but.... nah...

    @Bovidae you are quite right Craies was a 10 - don't know what I was thinking. He originally moved south because Fox was in his way at Akl

    @JK This is too hard. Be easier if I could pick leaguies

    1 Ron Williams
    2 Mike Mayhew
    3 James Afoa
    4 Snow White (OK he was a LHP but he also played TH and Lock for the AB's)
    5 Nick Williams (we are light on locks)
    6 Richard Mayhew
    7 Nigel Ward
    8 Pod Turner
    9 Bryn Hall
    10 Mike Harris / Brett Craies
    11 Richard Kapa
    12
    13 Marc Ellis
    14 Karl Te Nana
    15



  • @dogmeat said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    @ JK I was trying to pick guys who would be widely recognised rather than club stalwarts but yeah I'll through in a couple of Mayhews. Pivac did start with Cotes but.... nah...

    @Bovidae you are quite right Craies was a 10 - don't know what I was thinking. He originally moved south because Fox was in his way at Akl

    @JK This is too hard. Be easier if I could pick leaguies

    1 Ron Williams
    2 Mike Mayhew
    3 James Afoa
    4 Snow White (OK he was a LHP but he also played TH and Lock for the AB's)
    5 Nick Williams (we are light on locks)
    6 Richard Mayhew
    7 Nigel Ward
    8 Pod Turner
    9 Bryn Hall
    10 Mike Harris / Brett Craies
    11 Richard Kapa
    12
    13 Marc Ellis
    14 Karl Te Nana
    15

    Cupboards pretty bare then I think!

    Did Terry Wright actually play any games in the maroon and gold? (at prem level)



  • @Bones said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    4 Sam Lousi

    He would have had to lose a few kegs to rep Eastbourne's solo 85kg team.



  • @dogmeat Loteru Tolai is a good hooker. Ben Nee-Nee and Danny Drake were solid NPC locks.



  • @mikey07 there's enough of him to go around these days!



  • @Canes4life he can just be the whole tight 5 on his own.



  • Was talking to a friend over the weekend about some of these old club rugby stories, and he told me a couple of stories from North Canterbury rugby - including about a future AB.

    1 A prop was pulling an opposition lock down in the lineout. The opposing prop said, "Boof, if you don't stop pulling him down, I'm going to have to hit you."

    Next lineout, and Boof pulled him down - the opposing prop punched him and knocked out his front teeth. The two of them looked at the teeth on the ground. The puncher said, "Are you going to pick them up"?

    Boof said, "I don't want them". And ran off.

    2 A similar story of a young prop pulling down a lineout jumper, getting warned and then punched. Except, this time the guy got hit in the eye socket and his eye popped out (like the basketball guy). Guy whose eye supposedly popped out got it stitched back in and then went on to play AB rugby.



  • mate of mine tells the story of his first senior game . he was goog to be marking a waikato hooker .our all black no8 told him as the first scrum breaks up to lean to the left he repled what to be told again just go left .so first scrum goes down and finished mate leans to the left just in time for the punch from the back of the scrum to go passed his head to smack the hooker in the head.after a bit off a scrap game goes on and mate had no problems out of oppersition hooker for rest of game



  • This isn't my club but Norths (Porirua) would have a fairly handy team.

    1. Jacob Ellison / Anthony Perenise
    2. Leni Apisai
    3. John Schwagler
    4. Chris Middleton
    5. Api Naikatini
    6. Jerry Collins
    7. Du'Plessis Kirifi / Serge Lilo
    8. Faifili Levavae
    9. TJ Perenara
    10. Jackson Garden Bachop
    11. Alapati Leiua
    12. Tamati Ellison
    13. Robbie Fruean
    14. Connor Garden Bachop
    15. Buxton Popoali'i


  • @Bones said in Pick your clubs all time team.:

    HOBM Eagles.
    15 Colin Sullivan
    14 Chase Tiatia (or Bernie Fraser if we can go back to pre-amalgamation)
    13 Misi Fata-Meafou
    12
    11 Hosea Gear
    10 Jon Bentley
    9 Piri Weepu
    8 Doug Power
    7 Semo Sititi
    6 Gavin Hill
    5 Jeremy Thrush
    4
    3
    2 Elvis Taione
    1

    Ope Peleseuma - Centre (Wellington Lions)
    Brian Lima - Utility (Auckland, Highlanders, Blues)
    James O'Reilly - Hooker (Wellington Lions, Hurricanes)
    Joe Apikitoa - Prop (Wellington Lions, Hawkes Bay)
    Ben Power - Hooker (Hawke's Bay)
    Salesi Rayasi (Wellington, Auckland, Hurricanes, NZ Sevens)



  • @ploughboy Similar to the Marty Brooke move for Auckland to target the opposition hooker.



  • @Canes4life Huh....when did Lima play? Never knew that! Throw Salesi onto Tiatia's wing and Ope in at 12. Taione still the best pick of the hookers there.



  • @Bones I think for a while now but more as a bench option.

    Article below mentions him.

    http://www.clubrugby.co.nz/wellington/story.php?id=914



  • @Canes4life I reckon if you went back pre-amalgamation, you could probably swap in a few old-timers from Titahi Bay or Porirua rugby club too.



  • @Canes4life hmmm...was that "the" Brian Lima? At 42 years old?


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