Pre Workout Suggestions
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<p>So my usual pre-workout supply is out of stock;</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bodybuilding.co.nz/rage-evolution-nutratech.html'>http://www.bodybuilding.co.nz/rage-evolution-nutratech.html</a></p>
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<p>I've laboured through the last six weeks without it, but I heading into a busy month and I want the energy burst to keep exercising through it.</p>
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<p>So any suggestions for replacements?</p> -
Coffee. And bacon.
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<p>Coffee. And bacon.</p>
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<p>I don't like coffee, and have had to cut down on bacon thanks to high cholesterol :(</p> -
<p>I like Super pump max - JK sent me some samples of different kinds and that was the best for me. Seems like there is a lot of variation between what works for different people.</p>
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<p>I'm sticking to detonate at the moment - good mix of stim for the gym and fat burning. lol, Jesse styles!!</p> -
<p>Cool, that's two to research, thanks. I'm interested to see if the supplements with Beta-Alanine are what make the difference.</p>
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Kirwan, I have 3 on the go right now (musclepharm assault, BSN hyperFX and gaspari superdrive)<br><br>
PM me your address and I will send you a single serve of each.<br><br>
Posting from my phone so will post up a few links and recomendations later but recommend trying these first and seeing if you like them rather than taking a punt as some pre workouts work better than others for different people. -
<p>Thanks, I know you have researched this well and that means......i don't have to :)</p>
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Cup of coke, 6 spoons of coffee. Voila.
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Jesus, nice crash after that.
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Dessert spoons.
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Haha hyphy mud <br><br>
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Curse
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Curse use to be good before it was reformulated and DMAA removed. Pretty weak nowadays. <br><br><br>
Anyone see the story on pre workouts on 3rd degree tonight? Had the usual media slant on it of course but the reporter girl purchased 3 pre workouts being craze, detonate (both known to include class c amphetamines - refer Jesse Ryder incident and others) and also nar labs xspeed which contains DMAA. Got them all tested and sure enough "shocking" results.<br><br>
Funniest bit was that the reporter girl tried some for herself and took two scoops of craze and then did cardio session with a PT. Firstly she wasn't overly fit and wasn't a regular gym goer but secondly she took two scoops of craze for first time using a pre workout vs the recommended 1/2 to 1 scoop for craze. Asking for trouble! No wonder she couldn't handle it. -
<p>Yeah I saw a clip of that 'report' - love how they ignore the instructions and then have a whinge about the outcome. If you were a gym newbie and unfit why on earth would you OD on pre-workout and expect a good result! </p>
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<p>Curse use to be good before it was reformulated and DMAA removed. Pretty weak nowadays.<br><br><br>
Anyone see the story on pre workouts on 3rd degree tonight? Had the usual media slant on it of course but the reporter girl purchased 3 pre workouts being craze, detonate (both known to include class c amphetamines - refer Jesse Ryder incident and others) and also nar labs xspeed which contains DMAA. Got them all tested and sure enough "shocking" results.<br><br>
Funniest bit was that the reporter girl tried some for herself and took two scoops of craze and then did cardio session with a PT. Firstly she wasn't overly fit and wasn't a regular gym goer but secondly she took two scoops of craze for first time using a pre workout vs the recommended 1/2 to 1 scoop for craze. Asking for trouble! No wonder she couldn't handle it.</p>
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<p>Sensationalism aside though the fact remains that these products contain undeclared substances. If you are happy to take amphetamines then fine, but if you don't want to you should at least be given that knowledge to work with.</p>
<p>I take your point about the reporter's testing but isn't it a bit gung-ho to put the problem down to 'couldn't handle it'.</p>
<p>I don't take these things personally but my sons does. He also tries hard to keep abreast of products and what they contain aside from the listed ingredients and is very fit. Even with that knowledge (and taking recommended doses or less) he was suffering from bouts of 'crashing' and feeling really tired which disrupted sleep patterns etc. In the end he stopped using them as it was likely to be an amphetamine crash.</p>
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<p>I'm not suggesting they shouldn't be taken if you have no side effects, but the main point of that TV story still holds up in that you should be able to tell what you are taking from the labelling and testing.</p>
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<p>I'd also be pretty pissed off if I lost my job though inadvertent drug use.</p> -
<p>Fully agree about the issue of non-listed ingredients Crucial. If they'd made that the focus it could have been a good piece to watch - and highly topical given issues with party pills and the legislation around them. Food, drink or supplements (of any kind) should be clearly labelled so we know what we are eating/taking.</p>
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<p>I don't think JK was taking the gung-ho stance - more like a facepalm about the reporter not following the clear instructions on the product... especially for people who are new to pre-workout products. They chose to purposely abuse the product and then make a big deal about how 'spaced out' she was. Wonder if the workout alone would have had her spinning...</p>
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<p>As usual the efforts to sensationalise the report just made it seem lame and poorly planned (imo).</p> -
Yeah now I think about it Curse does make the skin a bit prickly..........
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<p>That's just the beta alanine MN5. Its not a bad thing.</p>
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<p>And yeah wasn't trying to take a gung ho stance, just really puzzled why someone would take double to recommended dose as a test of the product. If a user doesnt read the directions to start off with 1/2 to 1 serving then its unlikely they were read the ingredients either. Agree it would be shit house to get pulled up or lose a job due to coming up positive for a substance you never knew you were using. That simply isn't on and its exactly what happened to Jesse Ryder.</p> -
You get those samples mate?
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I did thanks, I also hit Bart up for his stash of Rage. Going to try them next week. <br /><br />Dodgiest looking mail I've ever received
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Cool mate. Be keen to hear what ya think of them. Got a new one and some more samples today actually. Looking forward to trying next week.
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<p>hhmmm, Am thinking maybe I need to start thinking about looking at supplements?</p>
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<p>Havent used anything since the mid-90's when creatine was all the rage!</p> -
<p>Can't recommend Rage enough, makes a huge difference to me in terms of energy put into a workout.</p>
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Creatine is still probably the number 1 supplement out. It's got a history of proven results when it comes to assisting with lean muscle gain. <br><br>
Proteins the other big one but you can get sufficient protein from your diet if its well planned enough.<br><br>
Pre workouts are nice but not required. Good way of making sure you really push yourself in your workouts but a strong coffee will get you most the way there for a fraction of the price. I like pre workouts though. Just don't become reliant on them. -
<p>Yeah I make sure I cycle through using detonate - it does make a difference in workout intensity. Just have to make sure you stay hydrated.</p>
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<p>I went off the other pre-workouts a bit, found I was getting a bit bloated. But SuperPump was definitely the supp I had the best results from. Can't remember the name but one sample JK sent me was gnarly! No way you could take it and NOT lift weights. You'd be benching workmates or randoms on the street! </p>
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<p>Also good to check how you hit your max weights without any pre-workout as well. Helps you scope how much boost you get from them I reckon. Plus it's awesome when you see clear improvement lifting 'clean' rather than on a pre-workout.</p> -
I think that was probably hyper fx mate. The blue fizzy one. Still my number 1 but only use it on leg day
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<p>Yeah that shiz had my number bro. I was getting almost too amped to lift, and a bit distracted. But you know it's a guaranteed workout once you have it.</p>
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<p>Detonate is pretty close in terms of buzz. But I get way more focused which is good for training tempo. </p>
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<p>Forget Fluoride, just whack some hyper fx in the water supply and watch the obesity crisis melt away!</p> -
<p>You're a madman JK! I bet you double dose too ha ha :whistle:</p>
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Good deal on today at <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nutritiondeal.co.nz/'>http://www.nutritiondeal.co.nz/</a> for hyper fx, superpump max and SuperDrive. All of which are very decent pre workouts
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<p>OT a little: walked into the local supermarket this morning, and the protein powder that usually sells for $22 was down to $5.50! Grabbed three of them and will start applying after workouts. Think i may have ripped them off on reflection, as the flavours I got were chocolate and 2 x vanilla. Maybe only one was on special :good: I actually work for their competition so suck it, Coles.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11156658'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11156658</a></p>
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<p>Craze warning</p> -
Hmmm strange that its come out now as its pretty old news. I think i mentioned it in my september post in this thread but craze has been known to be dodge for a long time, well over a year now.
